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    but you've to understand that this will confuse many, if not the most, americans as they can ' legally ' hire day laborers if they pick them up at designated areas.
    But those day labor centers where the illegals stand out to get hired don't make them legal workers. Don't you get it? Illegal is illegal. The people who go get them and hire them are doing something illegal. Just because it is common practice doesn't make it any less illegal.

    there are many things in this society that are common practices that are illegal. Driving without a seatbelt. Driving while using a cell phone (in some states), jaywalking, speeding. But that doesn't make it legal just because people do it anyway. I contend that if people do things that are illegal, they should suffer the consequences.

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    well, there's a difference between a criminal offence and a vilation. yuo will be arrested for a criminal offence, but not for a violation of for example for 'speeding' so it's not true that anyone that violates any law will get arrested.
    OK-- you got me on that one. But if we get our way, it will be a felony to live in this country illegally and that means arrest.
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    But those day labor centers where the illegals stand out to get hired don't make them legal workers. Don't you get it? Illegal is illegal. The people who go get them and hire them are doing something illegal. Just because it is common practice doesn't make it any less illegal.
    you're 100% right. It's illegal though it's commen practise. But the feeling is that if THE CITY COUNCIL allows it to happen, even sets up establishments for it, that most people will think it's legal ! that's the problem. most people that pick day laborers up at designated areas actually think they're doing something legal. so you can blame me if I hire an illegal as I know it's illegal, but you cazn't blame other persons as they don't know it and think it's a legal place to pick op workers.

    there are many things in this society that are common practices that are illegal. Driving without a seatbelt. Driving while using a cell phone (in some states), jaywalking, speeding. But that doesn't make it legal just because people do it anyway. I contend that if people do things that are illegal, they should suffer the consequences.
    Ok, but here's a difference. People generally know that it's not allowed to drive to fast or some other traffic regulations. but most people don't know it's illegal to pick up workers at areas that was even set up by their city council. that's a huge difference.

    That means me, you, my own family, your family, the President, visitors, and anyone else who is inside the borders of this nation.
    I agree

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    so you can blame me if I hire an illegal as I know it's illegal, but you cazn't blame other persons as they don't know it and think it's a legal place to pick op workers.
    Yes I can blame other people. If they are employers in this country, they get all the information about hiring illegals right along with their tax ID number. If they are just plain citizens looking for someone to do their dirty work that they are too cheap to hire a legal contractor to do, there is this little thing called "Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law." If the cops were to say, "Gee, Joe Schmoe, you didn't know this so we are going to let you go free, what would that do to our police? Nobody would ever be arrested or convicted no matter what they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuniusJnr
    so you can blame me if I hire an illegal as I know it's illegal, but you cazn't blame other persons as they don't know it and think it's a legal place to pick op workers.
    Yes I can blame other people. If they are employers in this country, they get all the information about hiring illegals right along with their tax ID number. If they are just plain citizens looking for someone to do their dirty work that they are too cheap to hire a legal contractor to do, there is this little thing called "Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law." If the cops were to say, "Gee, Joe Schmoe, you didn't know this so we are going to let you go free, what would that do to our police? Nobody would ever be arrested or convicted no matter what they do.
    Yes, you're right on this. But people copy from their leaders. If the leaders don't obey the law they wonder why they should. and ignorance is no excuse to break the law, you're right. but it's also impossible to know all the laws too. It's a very difficult issue. when I watched those clips from workplace wacthdog site, I honestly think that most people didn't know as they said it too that they thought it was legal as it was set up by Glendale city council.

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    The address to mail flyers concerning hiring illegals is
    arron paz carpentry lcc
    65 WARREN AVE
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    Their home improvement License is 078996
    their construction registration license is 147517

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelmahopkins
    The address to mail flyers concerning hiring illegals is
    arron paz carpentry lcc
    65 WARREN AVE
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    Their home improvement License is 078996
    their construction registration license is 147517

    also - anyone want to join me and send this in to www.wehirealiens.com?

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    you blame me for trolling, well I can better blame you for spamming. the same posts several times, that's called 'spamming '

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    Thelma you rock!!!! Awesome investigating. How do you send in the info to wehireillegals?

    I just don't get how one can allow someone who is in this country illegally to be in your home looking through your things. Even worse, caring for your children. How would you do a background check on them? What's to stop them from stealing your stuff or even your kids if they get mad at you for some reason. They could just run back to Mexico scott free. People are just stupid.

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    you blame me for trolling, well I can better blame you for spamming. the same posts several times, that's called 'spamming
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    rr- I am trying to let you know that this is supposed to a thread about taking action- not about how you have an attack of excessive verbage at the expense of everyone else.
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    madeline@aaronpazcarpentry.com

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    http://aaronpazcarpentry.com/

    I checked out the above URL and it is indeed her business. Looks like it was professionally done as well. Let's see, owns her own business, has website professionally done, can afford to hire a house cleaner. Yeah, she definitley sounds poor to me. I wish I could be as poor.

    Ginger; this is the link to their site;. Their phone number is 617-472-9700and their fax number - if any one wants to fax the flyer - is 617-472-9705.
    all this info is on their site- so it is not an invasion of privacy.
    also it was easy to post on wehirealiens- . all I did was cppy all the info that is openly placed on their site. then I copied and pasted the first post here by RIchard - into the "proof box" It took about 1 minute.

    also- five dollars an hour for 'DAY WORK" is what was paid in the mid - 1970's in the united states.
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