The board is leaning back to the right

[Jrhino]

Im about through here. All the liberal bashing I see will undermind the broad based support that has been fostered at this forum. Dont send me your Conservative newsletters, And dont catagorize my beliefs. The pin head attacks on liberals I see here is probably why I find it hard to move in that direction

I dont give you the rest of political agenda and I could care less about yours. There are many liberals who care deeply about the american worker. Maybe we should start our own forum.

Lets work on immigration or lets work without me.

[Dixie]

Jrhino,

Any body that feels compelled to label someone a liberal or conservative has been brainwashed. You know, I'm a moderate. I'm very liberal about some issues and very conservative about others. To each his own and you don't have to attack someone because they don't walk your walk or talk your talk. Besides, you criticize others of your own insecurities. So quit being afraid of leaning a little to the left or a little to the right.

I ain't no tree hugger but I don't want them all chopped down.

Dixie.

[noillegalimmigrationannie]

Im about through here. All the liberal bashing I see will undermind the broad based support that has been fostered at this forum. Dont send me your Conservative newsletters, And dont catagorize my beliefs. The pin head attacks on liberals I see here is probably why I find it hard to move in that direction

I dont give you the rest of political agenda and I could care less about yours. There are many liberals who care deeply about the american worker. Maybe we should start our own forum.

Lets work on immigration or lets work without me.

Jrhino,

With all due respects I was a life-long Democrat who has never voted for a Republican President and usually voted a straight party Dem. ticket throughout the years. In my younger years I could have been labeled a mild liberal. Age and experience have changed my views on a number of issues but I would still classify me as an average middle-class American who cares more about the future of the USA than any stupid political party.

With all due respect, I don't believe either major political party cares nor supports their major tax base (for example, us, the citizens) that pays their hefty salaries and benefits. I now consider myself politically-wise and an Independent as far as politics go.

This issue of illegal immigration transcends any political affiliation. The issues and environmental hazards from just "too many people" override any intelligent or otherwise discussions on any other issue including a limp two-party political system.

[Rockfish]

I'd have to agree, but ultimately, when passionately talking about political issues, people are going to be partisan on occassion. The mission here is to save our nation. We should all have respect for one another's views. Maybe what we're seeing here is what causes gridlock in Congress. Let's not get caught up in that during the course of the mission.

[sherbug]

Jrhino, I was a card carrying Dem until a few years ago. Actually it was when I found out a Socialist organization had back Hillary Clinton for Senator.

I have been duped and fooled by the turncoat politicians just like the Conservatives. But in all fairness to you, I have read a few posts where some were Democrat bashing, but that's not very often. I think we are all just Americans concerned with what is happening in our country.

I will now vote for whoever will do the right thing, liberal or conservative. I don't think too many of us can claim a political party in light of recent events. There are turncoats on both sides of the isle.

Lets just stick to the tremendous task ahead and not argue amongst ourselves.

[libbeebell]

I consider myself to be a moderate Democrat ( though I am thinking of registering as an Independent ) and I lean to the left on some issues and to the right on others. It seems to me that both parties have us sold out. I know when I go to some of the sites ( and they are pretty new to me ) that they will be conservative and slanted towards the right. I go there for information on this issue. When it comes this issue, especially in light of the rabid racist Aztlan and other such groups, I feel that we are neither Democrat or Republican, we are not Libertarian or Green. We are AMERICANS. Our future of a nation is more important that our other issues, no matter how important they might seem. United we stand or divided we fall. It will be OUR choice. And so far, when i talk with other Americans, with rare exception we are united on this issue regardless of the party we are a member of.

[LegalUSCitizen]

I'd have to agree, but ultimately, when passionately talking about political issues, people are going to be partisan on occassion. The mission here is to save our nation

JRhino I voted for Clinton to get rid of Bush Sr. and Gore to keep Bush Jr. out, but I consider myself an Independent who can lean towards the right or the left depending on the state and condition our country is in.

It's a free country and if I can call the president of the US derogatory names I think I should be able to call the two main political parties deragatory names. They're both a disgrace to the American people at this point.

We tear McCain to shreds and we tear Kennedy to shreds almost as often. If you disagree with something, come on out and say it. If you think someone is worth standing up for come on out and say it. You may help someone see something from a new point.

We can't afford to be politically correct anymore. People are going to have to fight and fight hard in order to save the sovereignty of our nation.
There are going to be bumps and bruises along the way, but if that hurts too much than maybe you should fight in a softer enviroment.

I talk about Mel Martinez (Republican) like he's a dirt bag, because I know that he is one, and yesterday I called John Kerry (Democrat) a loser because I think he is one. If you ever disagree you should turn around and stand up for them.

No one here should have to be afraid to say something because it's a pro-Democrat or pro-Republican statement. WE CANNOT WIN THAT WAY.

It is a FACT that although there are some outstanding Democrats here who are fighting illegal immigration there have been MORE Republicans to a certain extent.

Change that Rhino, by standing up for what you believe in and maybe you'll bring in more Democrats.

This fight does involve the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, we can't change that. If you need a "politically correct" enviroment, you know where you can find one.

Good Luck JRhino, I wish you luck, you've been a good activist against illegal immigration, but the bottom line is that political correctness is what got us into this. At ALIPAC we're fighting and winning because our weapon of choice is "the truth". Sometimes the truth hurts, but somebody has to speak it.

Right now I cannot stand either party, they both scare me a lot. But I'm going to be honest, I at LEAST see SOME Republicans (ex.Tancredo) standing up and fighting for us, whereas i see ZERO Democrats standing up for us.

If you want me to be quiet about that fact, I'm going to say, "NO." I'm fighting for my country and I'm not going to win by holding back on the truth so as not to make a Democrat or a Republican feel bad.

Whatever you decide to do, good luck.

[JuniusJnr]

It seems to me that both parties have us sold out. I know when I go to some of the sites ( and they are pretty new to me ) that they will be conservative and slanted towards the right. I go there for information on this issue. When it comes this issue, especially in light of the rabid racist Aztlan and other such groups, I feel that we are neither Democrat or Republican, we are not Libertarian or Green. We are AMERICANS.

libbeebell, amen!
I tend to look at individuals--not parties. And if I got to pick the way elections are run in this country, I'd say that the candidates must run on their individual merits. ALL political parties would be eliminated and anyone who could get the popular backing to run for a public office through the petition/signature process, would be put on the appropritate ballots. Of course it would take fewer signatures to run for mayor than for president but it would all be relative to the population coming to the polls.

[Charlesoakisland]

my suggestion to everyone on this forum: Stop bickering get to fighting the illegal immigration problem. If you have so much free time do what I just did.

Faxed, emailed and called the DC offices of my senators to remind them to Secure our Borders, No Amnesty, control the number of legal immigrations and enforce the immigration laws, Charge those who have/are hiring the illegals with the crime they have committed.

IF you all need something to scream and fuss at throw it my way, but lets work together time is now very short.

[LegalUSCitizen]

Charlesoakisland

my suggestion to everyone on this forum: Stop bickering get to fighting the illegal immigration problem.

That sounds like the best way to accomplish our goals. Let's not concern ourselves about which way the boards are leaning, let's focus on the PROBLEM at hand.