Thread: The Catholic Campaign for Immigration Reform

Originally Posted by AcadienRefugee

Originally Posted by redpony353

1. My neighbor has been here over 10 yrs legally with a visa but now is going for his citizenship and the paperwork is SLOW, why, the backlog. Why is there a backlog you ask, well with ICE/FBI these types of requests (FEES ARE PAID FOR THIS STUFF) are low priority. Sorry, but we are FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION and that should our stand, have a responsive system for those that apply, are accepted and play by the rules. NOT A PAPERWORK HASSLE!!

IT IS BECAUSE SO MANY ARE APPLYING. THEY CHECK THE BACKGROUND OF EACH ONE. IT TAKES TIME.

I DONT KNOW HOW LONG IT HAS BEEN SINCE YOUR FRIEND APPLIED FOR CITIZENSHIP, BUT I KNOW PEOPLE WHO WAITED UP TO 10 YEARS AFTER APPLYING FOR CITIZENSHIP. THIS WAS AFTER BEING HERE LEGALLY FOR MANY MANY YEARS.

I DONT KNOW WHY YOU THINK THE SYSTEM HAS TO BE "RESPONSIVE" TO APPLICANTS. IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTRY, NOT THE BEST INTEREST OF THE IMMIGRANT.

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY IMMIGRANTS THESE DAYS THINK THE SYSTEM HAS TO CATER TO THEM. IF IT TAKES THAT LONG IT DOES.

LEGAL IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE KEPT AT A BARE MINIMUM. WE DONT REALLY NEED MORE IMMIGRANTS AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE BEEN FLOODED WITH IMMIGRANTS THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND THAT IS ENOUGH FOR NOW.

THIS IS NOT A STATEMENT AGAINST IMMIGRANTS OR IMMIGRATION IN GENERAL. BUT IT HAS GOTTEN TO THE POINT THAT IMMIGRANTS THINK THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO IMMIGRATE TO USA AND THAT IS HAS TO BE FAST AND THAT THEY MUST BE CATERED TO. THIS IS A TWISTED CONCEPT OF IMMIGRATION.

WHY DOES THE SYSTEM HAVE TO BE "RESPOSIVE" TO IMMIGRANTS, WELL HERE IS THE GRIPE:

I AM NOT HERE BECAUSE I AM ANTI-IMMIGRANT, I AM ANTI ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, FOLKS WHO HAVE PLAYED BY THE RULES SHOULD BE GIVEN RESONABLE ASSISTANCE AND REASONABLY PROCESSED THROUGH THE SYSTEM. IS THIS A RIGHT OR A DUTY? IT IS THE DUTY OF THE GOVERNMENT OT PERFORM ITS TASKS IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER, THIS PERSON HAS LIVED IN THE USA FOR MOST OF HIS ADULT LIFE AND THE BACKGROUND CHECK IS JUST A PART, HE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD BUT BEING BORN IN FRENCH ALGERIA HAS COMPLICATED THIS SINCE BEING FRENCH BORN IN THE COLONIES DURING WW2 MEANS CHASING DOWN PAPER AS TO IS BACKGROUND. HE IS OVER 65, WORKED IN THE USA (legally) PAID TAXES AND JUST WANTS TO TAKE THE FINAL STEP.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE PLAYED BY THE RULES SHOULD BE COMPLIMENTED, NOT HINDERED. THAT IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY. AND WE THE PEOPLE WANT THE ILLEGALS GONE, THE LEGALS BROUGHT INTO THE MAINSTREAM.

SEE ICE RAID-GOOD WORK!!!!! WE NEED TO SEE MORE ACTION!!!!

WELL FIRST, I DONT AGREE THAT WHOLESALE IMMIGRATION IS NECESSARILY GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY. IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE KEPT AT A MINIMAL AMOUNT.

I AM SURE YOUR FRIEND HAS PLAYED BY THE RULES, AS WELL HE SHOULD. BUT ICE/FBI DO HAVE OTHER TASKS TO PERFORM BESIDES REVIEWING AND INVESTIGATING APPLICATIONS FOR CITIZENSHIP.

I AM SURE THEY ARE COMPLETING THEIR TASKS IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER. THEY ARE ALL DOING A GREAT JOB.

ANY CITIZENSHIP APPLICANT THAT THINKS APPLYING IN USA IS TOO CUMBERSOME COULD CONSIDER OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE THE OFFICIALS HANDLING APPLICATIONS ARE NOT SO DILIGENT.

I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR FRIEND WANTS TO "MOVE FORWARD", BUT APPLYING FOR CITIZENSHIP TAKES PATIENCE. THERE IS NO FAST TRACK TO CITIZENSHIP.

IF HE IS HERE LEGALLY, THEN HE HAS ALL OF THE AMMENITIES AFFORDED CITIZENS EXCEPT VOTING. SO WHAT IS THE RUSH? HE CAN WORK, HAVE A LIFE, BUY A HOUSE, GET MEDICAL CARE.......I DONT SEE WHAT THE RUSH IS. EVENTUALLY HE WILL BE A CITIZEN.

NOW I CAN UNDERSTAND IF SOMEONE IS HERE ILLEGALLY WHY THEY WOULD BE IN A RUSH. THEY ARE LIVING IN A PRECARIOUS SITUATION. BUT IF A PERSON IS HERE LEGALLY THEN THERE IS NO REASON TO PULL ICE/FBI AWAY FROM OTHER DUTIES TO RUSH THEM THROUGH.

Originally Posted by "redpony353

WELL FIRST, I DONT AGREE THAT WHOLESALE IMMIGRATION IS NECESSARILY GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY. IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE KEPT AT A MINIMAL AMOUNT.

I AM SURE YOUR FRIEND HAS PLAYED BY THE RULES, AS WELL HE SHOULD. BUT ICE/FBI DO HAVE OTHER TASKS TO PERFORM BESIDES REVIEWING AND INVESTIGATING APPLICATIONS FOR CITIZENSHIP.

I AM SURE THEY ARE COMPLETING THEIR TASKS IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER. THEY ARE ALL DOING A GREAT JOB.

ANY CITIZENSHIP APPLICANT THAT THINKS APPLYING IN USA IS TOO CUMBERSOME COULD CONSIDER OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE THE OFFICIALS HANDLING APPLICATIONS ARE NOT SO DILIGENT.

I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR FRIEND WANTS TO "MOVE FORWARD", BUT APPLYING FOR CITIZENSHIP TAKES PATIENCE. THERE IS NO FAST TRACK TO CITIZENSHIP.

IF HE IS HERE LEGALLY, THEN HE HAS ALL OF THE AMMENITIES AFFORDED CITIZENS EXCEPT VOTING. SO WHAT IS THE RUSH? HE CAN WORK, HAVE A LIFE, BUY A HOUSE, GET MEDICAL CARE.......I DONT SEE WHAT THE RUSH IS. EVENTUALLY HE WILL BE A CITIZEN.

NOW I CAN UNDERSTAND IF SOMEONE IS HERE ILLEGALLY WHY THEY WOULD BE IN A RUSH. THEY ARE LIVING IN A PRECARIOUS SITUATION. BUT IF A PERSON IS HERE LEGALLY THEN THERE IS NO REASON TO PULL ICE/FBI AWAY FROM OTHER DUTIES TO RUSH THEM THROUGH.

HE IS NOT WHOLESALE OR ILLEGAL, BUT THE PAPERWORK DEPT AND I DELT WITH THEM FOR MY SECURITY CLEARENCE FOR THE (twic) CARD AND IT TOOK ONLY 8 WEEKS (2 MONTHS) BUT THEN I ONLY HAD TO UNDERGO NCIS CHECK, SIMPLE.

ARE THEY DOING A GOOD JOB, WELL IF PAPERWORK FLOMOXES THEM, I SUGGEST THEY GET THE TWIC HANDLERS ON THE CASE. YOU MUST WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT, DELAYS NORMAL, THE DEPT HANDLING THE PAPERWORK IS UNDERFUNDED BUT THE BOSSES STILL EXPECT THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK WITH LESS.

ARE THEY DOING A GOOD JOB, AND SINCE YOU ASKED,

NO

AND WHY, WE ARE JUST NOW GETTING THESE MASSIVE RAIDS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WHEN ANY 8 YEAR OLD KID COULD HAVE POINTED OUT WHERE THE ILLEGALS ARE!!!

IS THIS AN ELECTION PLOY? MORE RAIDS OR WILL THIS JUST TAPER OFF AND BACK TO BUSINESS AS USUAL?

ICE NEEDS TO KEEP AFTER IT IF THEY WANT TO PROVE ITS DOING A GOOD JOB, WE ACTION NOT WORDS.

REMEMBER, WE ARE FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION. WHAT IS MINIMAL IMMIGRATION, WHAT ABOUT THOSE THAT FOLLOW THE RULES.? THE
SITUATION IS THAT WE NEED SOME PAPERWORK TO CLOSE THIS FILE, NOT DELAYS DUE TO COMPUTER BACKLOGS.

ARE THEY DOING A GOOD JOB, AND SINCE YOU ASKED,

NO

AND WHY, WE ARE JUST NOW GETTING THESE MASSIVE RAIDS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WHEN ANY 8 YEAR OLD KID COULD HAVE POINTED OUT WHERE THE ILLEGALS ARE!!!

IS THIS AN ELECTION PLOY? MORE RAIDS OR WILL THIS JUST TAPER OFF AND BACK TO BUSINESS AS USUAL?

ICE NEEDS TO KEEP AFTER IT IF THEY WANT TO PROVE ITS DOING A GOOD JOB, WE ACTION NOT WORDS.

REMEMBER, WE ARE FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION. WHAT IS MINIMAL IMMIGRATION, WHAT ABOUT THOSE THAT FOLLOW THE RULES.? THE
SITUATION IS THAT WE NEED SOME PAPERWORK TO CLOSE THIS FILE, NOT DELAYS DUE TO COMPUTER BACKLOGS.

I NEVER ASKED IF ICE/FBI ARE DOING A GOOD JOB. I STATED THAT THEY ARE DOING A GOOD JOB AND ARE VERY EFFICIENT. ANYONE WHO THINKS IT TAKES TOO LONG SHOULD JUST APPLY TO ANOTHER COUNTRY. THERE ARE MANY COUNTRIES TO IMMIGRATE TO.

JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE FOLLOWS THE RULES DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE ROOM FOR THEM. OUR COUNTRY ONLY HAS SO MUCH SPACE AND SOME JUST WILL NOT BE ADMITTED....OR THEY WILL HAVE TO WAIT TO BE ADMITTED. THAT IS JUST THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION.

WE HAVE FAR TOO MANY IMMIGRANTS AS IT IS, INCLUDING ILLEGALS. THIS IS HURTING OUR COUNTRY.

BEING IN FAVOR OF LEGAL IMMIGRATION DOES NOT TRANSLATE INTO LETTING IN EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT WANTS TO COME IN. WE SIMPLY CANNOT DO THAT. SOME WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SOME WILL NEVER BE ADMITTED.

IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE MINIMAL. THIS MEANS THAT WE SHOULD LET IN VERY FEW IMMIGRANTS. ADMISSIONS SHOULD BE BASED ON WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY AND ITS CITIZENS, NOT ON WHAT IS GOOD OR CONVENIENT FOR THE IMMIGRANT.

USA BELONGS TO THE CITIZENS OF USA, NOT TO IMMIGRANTS WHO WANT TO COME HERE. IMMIGRATION DECISIONS SHOULD BE MADE IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS. IMMIGRANTS HAVE NO SPECIAL RIGHT TO COME HERE. THEY CAN COME HERE IF WE HAVE ROOM AND RESOURCES FOR THEM, AND IF THEY CAN BENEFIT OUR CITIZENRY. IF NOT THEN WHY SHOULD THEY BE ADMITTED?