Thread: Detention camps at undisclosed locations in the US?

Very interesting article, yet scary!

Detention camps at undisclosed locations in the US? Rule by Fear or Rule by Law?

"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist."

-- Winston Churchill, Nov. 21, 1943

Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees.

According to diplomat and author Peter Dale Scott, the KBR contract is part of a Homeland Security plan titled ENDGAME, which sets as its goal the removal of "all removable aliens" and "potential terrorists."

Fraud-busters such as Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, have complained about these contracts, saying that more taxpayer dollars should not go to taxpayer-gouging Halliburton. But the real question is: What kind of "new programs" require the construction and refurbishment of detention facilities in nearly every state of the union with the capacity to house perhaps millions of people?

Sect. 1042 of the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), "Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies," gives the executive the power to invoke martial law. For the first time in more than a century, the president is now authorized to use the military in response to "a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, a terrorist attack or any other condition in which the President determines that domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials cannot maintain public order."

The Military Commissions Act of 2006, rammed through Congress just before the 2006 midterm elections, allows for the indefinite imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on a list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the government's policies. The law calls for secret trials for citizens and noncitizens alike.

Also in 2007, the White House quietly issued National Security Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51), to ensure "continuity of government" in the event of what the document vaguely calls a "catastrophic emergency." Should the president determine that such an emergency has occurred, he and he alone is empowered to do whatever he deems necessary to ensure "continuity of government." This could include everything from canceling elections to suspending the Constitution to launching a nuclear attack. Congress has yet to hold a single hearing on NSPD-51.

U.S. Rep. Jane Harman, D-Venice (Los Angeles County) has come up with a new way to expand the domestic "war on terror." Her Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 (HR1955), which passed the House by the lopsided vote of 404-6, would set up a commission to "examine and report upon the facts and causes" of so-called violent radicalism and extremist ideology, then make legislative recommendations on combatting it.

According to commentary in the Baltimore Sun, Rep. Harman and her colleagues from both sides of the aisle believe the country faces a native brand of terrorism, and needs a commission with sweeping investigative power to combat it.

A clue as to where Harman's commission might be aiming is the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a law that labels those who "engage in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the name of animal rights" as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment rights supporters ... the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly 775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per month.

What could the government be contemplating that leads it to make contingency plans to detain without recourse millions of its own citizens?

The Constitution does not allow the executive to have unchecked power under any circumstances. The people must not allow the president to use the war on terrorism to rule by fear instead of by law.

Lewis Seiler is the president of Voice of the Environment, Inc. Dan Hamburg, a former congressman, is executive director.

by Lewis Seiler and Dan Hamburg
Global Research, February 13, 2008
San Francisco Chronicle

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=8067

Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

These camps may well be used for illegal aliens when the crisis deepens. Bravo!

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Originally Posted by Jonathan

These camps may well be used for illegal aliens when the crisis deepens.

Maybe, after their May 1 protests, unless they receive green cards before then, which may be part of the plan. Then again, maybe it's for all of us who oppose their grand scheme for legalized slavery!

The American people can be pushed so far and then they'll rebel.
The government has to be ready to control and maintain the then unruly population. They're all ready with the martial law programs.
If it was for the invaders they would already be in use.


I don't think this calls for a bravo.
It is frightening.

"or to support the rapid development of new programs"

"or who speaks out against the government's policies"

"those who "engage in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the name of animal rights"

"anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment rights supporters"


Scary stuff!

Originally Posted by grandmasmad

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Do you really think American law enforcement personnel or American troops would round up millions of law-abiding US citizens without a mutiny?

Originally Posted by Jonathan

Originally Posted by grandmasmad

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Do you really think American law enforcement personnel or American troops would round up millions of law-abiding US citizens without a mutiny?

Ask the german soldiers who helped Hitler and many other nations where dictators rule . We left England because of perecution by our own people . All over the world people are persecuted by their own leaders and soldiers .

Also most able bodied young Americans are overseas in wars . They will just recruit all the alians they have brought in to arrest any objectors . And don't forget the UN troops .

We can't even get people to speak out in times of peace, much less to actually fight .

Don't forget katrina victims . Our troops went into peoples homes and took their weapons . Soldiers follow orders . It's up to the people to decide who makes the laws and gives the orders .

Originally Posted by NOamNASTY

Also most able bodied young Americans are overseas in wars. They will just recruit all the alians they have brought in to arrest any objectors.

I have long thought that the immigrant women and older men will be used for cheap labor while the younger men are intended to re-build U.S. military strength.

Originally Posted by NOamNASTY

Originally Posted by Jonathan

Originally Posted by grandmasmad

or us???????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????

Do you really think American law enforcement personnel or American troops would round up millions of law-abiding US citizens without a mutiny?

Ask the german soldiers who helped Hitler and many other nations where dictators rule . We left England because of perecution by our own people . All over the world people are persecuted by their own leaders and soldiers .

Also most able bodied young Americans are overseas in wars . They will just recruit all the alians they have brought in to arrest any objectors . And don't forget the UN troops .

We can't even get people to speak out in times of peace, much less to actually fight .

Don't forget katrina victims . Our troops went into peoples homes and took their weapons . Soldiers follow orders . It's up to the people to decide who makes the laws and gives the orders .

Most able bodied young Americans are NOT overseas in wars.

The vast majority of arrests and detentions in the Katrina disaster was directed against black gangs and looters.

Most law enforcement personnel and military personnel realize that patriotic Americans are not the enemy, though they may be wary of the libertarian types who don't pay their taxes or resent any form of authority and who seem to embrace Alex Jones style conspiracy theories. I also am wary of those types.