Thread: Detention camps at undisclosed locations in the US?

Originally Posted by Bostonteaparty

Originally Posted by Jonathan

Originally Posted by grandmasmad

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Do you really think American law enforcement personnel or American troops would round up millions of law-abiding US citizens without a mutiny?

i only have 2 words for this

"KENT STATE"

You sound like a liberal.
A couple of hippies killed by poorly trained National Guard troops is an isolated incident that is not comparable to putting thousands of law-abiding citizens into concentration camps.

It's a testament to the exceedingly high discipline among law enforcement of those days that there were not many more incidents like Kent State.

Originally Posted by evangelinot

I don't see many Americans raising heck about the injustice done to the citizens of New Orleans.

What injustice was that? The hurricane was a natural event.

Originally Posted by carolinamtnwoman

I was around in the '60's and 70's during the Vietnam war and civil rights protests, which were widely publicized in all the media, and the "establishment" was not happy. There are still protests going on in this country, but isn't it interesting that we seldom hear anything about them except from alternative media sources? Maybe that's one of the reasons they decided to buy up all of the MSM...to further brainwash us in an effort to keep us quiet?

I thought about signing up for Ron Paul's Revolution March email alerts but decided against it because Big Brother may be watching and might add my name to the terrorist threat list! Who knows...maybe all of us at ALIPAC are already on it!!!

Left wing peacenik demonstrators like Cindy Shehan and many others get plenty of media coverage in the MSM.

Now...read this article:

The "Use of the Armed Forces" in America under a National Emergency
Unrestricted & Arbitrary Powers conferred to the President & Vice President

by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, June 27, 2007

In October 2006, Bush signed into law the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007, (also known under the title Department of Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007) [The John Warner NDAA 07 was adopted on 17 October 2006]

NDAA 07 includes specific provisions which allow the military to take control of normal police and law enforcement functions at the Federal and State levels.

Sec. 1076 of the NDAA 07 overturns the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which prevents the military from intervening in the conduct of civilian government activities, including the conduct of Justice and Law Enforcement. Posse Comitatus has been central to the functioning of constitutional government. (It should be noted that other previous pieces of legislation have already invalidated the substance of Posse Comitatus).

What is significant in these specific provisions of NDAA 07 (Sec. 1076) is that they dovetail the provisions of Bush's National Security Presidential and Homeland Directive (NSPD 51, HSPD 20) enacted on May 9, 2007.

NSPD 51 would essentially scrap Constitutional government in the case of a so-called "Catastrophic Emergency". .

If an emergency situation were to be called by the President, NSPD 51 would instate martial law under the authority of the White House and the Department of Homeland Security. It would suspend constitutional government under the provisions of Continuity in Government (COG). It would establish extraordinary powers for the president and vice-president.

The provisions of NSPD 51 are consistent with an existing body of legislation and regulations pertaining to alleged terrorist attacks on the Homeland and the declaration of martial law. Sec. 1076 of NDAA 07 (DDAA 07), however, goes much further in defining the role of the Military in the case of a "Catastrophic Emergency."

Sec 1076 essentially defines the discretionary powers which would be conferred to the president and the vice president if NSPD 51 were to be applied.

Sec. 1076 of the NDAA 07, which was apparently slipped in at the last minute at the request of the White House as an amendment of Sec. 333, pertains to the "Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies."

Sec 1076 is extremely explicit; it virtually creates a Pinochet style environment for the mass arrest of political dissidents without trial, the storming of public rallies, etc.

It provides specific details regarding the powers conferred to the President and Vice President in the case of a "Catastrophic Emergency" as envisaged under NSPD 51:

The president "may employ the armed forces ... to restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States"

Unrestricted powers are granted to the White House. The President would have the authority to suspend civilian law enforcement at the federal and state levels and call in the Military, which would be in charge of suppressing "domestic violence" "insurrection"( e.g. public rallies), or "conspiracy", meaning anybody who might express dissent, indignation or opposition to the Bush Administration for having scrapped the Constitution.

The emphasis of Sec. 1076 is in relation to actions directed against "domestic enemies" rather than bona fide "defense" in relation to attacks by foreign forces, which is part of the Military's mandate.

Taken together, NSPD 51 and Sec 1076 of the NDAA 07 define the contours of a "democratic dictatorship" in America under the authority of the White House.

We are not dealing, however, with "Military Rule" or "Military Government" as normally understood, because the authority to govern under the provisions of NSPD 51 is vested in the President and the Vice President. What is at stake is the unrestricted and arbitrary "Use" of the Military by the President /Vice President in the conduct of police and law enforcement functions, while bypassing the US Congress and the Judiciary.

Review the full text of Sec 1076 of NDAA 07 which amends Sec 333 at:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=6169

Related Global Research Article:

Bush Directive for a "Catastrophic Emergency" in America: Building a Justification for Waging War on Iran? - by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky - 2007-06-24

Michel Chossudovsky is the author of the international best America’s "War on Terrorism" Second Edition, Global Research, 2005. He is Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and Director of the Center for Research on Globalization.

This is the tool that can be used against illegal aliens (and their supporters and fellow travellers). Sheriff Arpaio should have this authority.

rmsings: "But why don't they use it against the illegals? What are they waiting for?"


US.......???

Originally Posted by carolinamtnwoman

rmsings: "But why don't they use it against the illegals? What are they waiting for?"

US.......!???

This would not be used until there is a catastrophe such as an extended nationwide power outage or a nuclear attack. Within days or weeks, the less Americanized segments of the population (illegals and liberal anarchists) would be in open rebellion, and the government would have to declare martial law to suppress and arrest them and then deport them.

if i remmember, randy weaver's big infraction was cutting down a shotgun barrel an ATF agent marked with a piece of tape, 1/4" too short. and writing some bad checks. not earning the actions of having his wife and baby shot dead.

Originally Posted by draindog

if i remmember, randy weaver's big infraction was cutting down a shotgun barrel an ATF agent marked with a piece of tape, 1/4" too short. and writing some bad checks. not earning the actions of having his wife and baby shot dead.

Sure, the Feds overreacted in that case and a few others, but overall they have a great record. Just think of dealing with the federal police in Venezuela or Mexico or Turkey or Russia, etc. . . and then you'll realize you're really lucky to be living in the USA!! In those countries the Kent State incident would be the rule rather than the exception.

The FEMA camps have fences with the top pointing IN , to keep those inside from leaving. Strange fencing for a camp meant to house victims of natural disasters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4