Thread: Do Most Americans Now Embrace "Globalism"?

Originally Posted by sacredrage

I do feel that they have contributed some great food and musical genres to our culture and as a group they wave our flag, share our American values and speak our language (though I wish they would speak it perfectly all the time, they at least speak English!).

I'm not gonna harp on that. My dear old dad was white, but he was a hillbilly from the Apalacians of eastern Kentucky. Needless to say, when he and my mother took a trip to England, he was always greeted with dirty or confused looks even though he did speak English.

"There are things in the Hispanic cultures that need to be "exorcised"....torture of animals as legal entertainment (bullfights, cockfights, dogfights that I know of), mistreatment of children on the streets (homeless or begging), even killing them in their home nations, acting like their sole purpose in life is to have a large amount of children and having a "smothering" type of family (I'm all for close family relationships-the Lord knows America USED to have them as the norm) but when you are never taught "independence" and never leave the house without taking them with you, going anyplace alone or just with a friend-I consider that overboard."

Now we are getting into dangerous territory where we are expressing cultural superiority that can be perceived of as disdainful dismissal or hate. This sensitivity of theirs that you are writing about is also translated into their routine behavior towards us in the workplace, on the street, in the grocery store etc. There are parts of their culture that I love but here in the US much of what you write of is illegal and I prefer that it remain illegal. Just as with Muslim "honor" killings; I don't want to see select groups being given a cultural pass to commit what we consider to be crimes here in the culture of the USA. We have our own culture and legal system. If you want to be here you need to honor it or go home. If I live in a Muslim nation that requires wearing of berka I do it. Believe me, they will enforce consequences if I do not. So maybe we need to also enforce consequences just as seriously. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - what we are taught since a child - that we as citizens will face the consequences of the law regardless if we knew the specific law or not - so giving any foreigner a legal "cultural pass" is something that no other nation would do and once again elevates them to royal status which is not something they deserve. We don't deserve it either. They are already expressing hatred constantly as part of their culture and caused lots of damage here in the US. Beating children up because they do not also speak Spanish is just ridiculous. And their Soros sponsored political literature calls US the xenophobes?

OK-there ARE some parts of Hispanic culture that I do enjoy-Peruvian food is one-and Venezuelans know how to put on a child's birthday party that kicks our butts here at home....they do the "theme" party just like we do, but the kid has a costume to match...they cook up a huge meal along with serving birthday cake and the guests stick around instead of dropping the kids off and leaving....and they have a life size pinata that is filled with small toys (and sometimes trinkets for the parents of the kids!) as well as candy.

When I meant kids being killed I'm talking about in their home countries...their own people.

I don't mean to sound culturally "superior" to anyone-every culture has both advantages and faults-ours include family alienation and disintegration, people leaving family values and morals in the dust, too much materialism, to name a few.

Yes I agree about the materialism and stuff like that but even that has been marketed to people sooooo much and perhaps some do not have the willpower to say no or the marketing hooks into cultural expectations and is very thorough. I've got a tinfoil wallet around my cards & ID now in preparation for this RFID marketing they say is coming - where they even know your medical problems so they can hook you with intimate personal knowledge and they can read how much is in your bank account just by walking in the store?

There is no popular support for Globalism. When was the last time you saw anybody demostrating for Globalism? NAFT, GATT, WTO etc. were imposed from the top down. These so-called agreements or treaties were bought and paid for by giant corporations and billionaires. And they are at the root cause of most of the economic problems in the U. S.

I remember. Everybody thought I was nuts for caring too. The media propagandists put out that intelligent educated people understood and supported, NAFTA. Everybody wanted to be perceived of as intelligent and educated so they willingly did as the media whores told them and supported it. Makes me wonder how rare the people on this forum are. Do most of my fellow citizens allow themselves to be manipulated for everything so easily?

I don't know anybody who can discuss any of these issues like people here can. Most don't even know what is going on or if they do - they only know vague propaganda.

Globalism is just such a joke. As long as we are of different religious beliefs, different cultures, different political beliefs, severely different education levels, and different work mentalities it would never work.

Only way globalism would work is under 1 strong system that encompasses everything, that would mean 1 world government as well. It would also require those countries with more like the US, western countries, and the leading Asian countries to lower there standards with raising other standards of living.

It would be a nightmare and in todays world likely just lead to nuclear nuclear war destroying most people on the planet. The ONLY ones who would benefit at all are the filthy rich who would use it as a very fast way to drain wealth out of the rest of the world including middle class's everywhere... ohh middle class's will still make as much as they do today but that doesn't mean much when a gallon of milk is $6, a gallon of gas is $10, a pound of potato's are $8.

We are not ants or bees.

Yup. Which globalism cannot work unless we all are under 1 entire goal and belief system that encompasses all walks of life. Which is really well... impossible which makes it completely ludicrious.

Originally Posted by sarum

I remember. Everybody thought I was nuts for caring too. The media propagandists put out that intelligent educated people understood and supported, NAFTA. Everybody wanted to be perceived of as intelligent and educated so they willingly did as the media V******V told them and supported it. Makes me wonder how rare the people on this forum are. Do most of my fellow citizens allow themselves to be manipulated for everything so easily?

I don't know anybody who can discuss any of these issues like people here can. Most don't even know what is going on or if they do - they only know vague propaganda.

About a year ago I was doing some casual research on NAFTA (only to supplement all of the info I have gathered over the years). And I read that the 1993 Perot/Gore NAFTA debate on Larry King is what really changed the public and congress' view from opposing it to supporting it.

I thought to myself, "Ya know, I've never actually seen this debate." I had heard a lot about it, but never seen it. So I looked it up on Youtube, and watched all 10 parts of it, an hour total.

Guess what? Gore sold NAFTA as primarily an exporting trade agreement for America. He said it would increase our manufacturing and expand the trade surplus with Mexico that we had back then..................I could not believe what I was hearing.

The public liked what they had seen, and got behind it. The pols then had their excuse to support it.

NAFTA has done the exact opposite of everything its proponents said it would do. Yet, these very people claim that NAFTA has been a success for our country. Today, I do believe that NAFTA is very unpopular with the American people, because it turned out to be very far from what they thought it was. For this reason, CAFTA barely passed and had to be sold as a national security measure. Its too late though. They hoodwinked the public to get support for their treason, and now it is well entrenched law.