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    Senior Member sarum's Avatar
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    Treason is right.

    Perot had some excellent points but his opposition made it their mission to marginalize the man and assault his character, his mental health, everything they could. This still goes on continuously like with comedienne Kathy Griffin vowing to publicly go after Bristol and Willow Palin, a minor child and a not yet quite legally adult child, at a time when bullying of children is supposedly a national mission and in some cases, prosecuted. Personally I find the Sarah Palin phenomena intriguing but I do not consider her a threat to anybody and honestly not even intriguing enough to pay much attention. I guess Kathy thought she would pay her dues to her masters in this way and possibly worm her way back in but she was misguided. Even in the arts you stll cannot be too much of a wild card. When people make talk of the new McCarthyism they are not wrong just the application is reversed. So Kathy Griffin is free to target children publicly with her voice but people who have something important to say are squelched.

    I remember Perot saying that if we passed it we were going to hear "That giant sucking sound."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syanis
    Yup. Which globalism cannot work unless we all are under 1 entire goal and belief system that encompasses all walks of life. Which is really well... impossible which makes it completely ludicrious.
    I think they are working on making us all Delta Epsilon, Huxley style with the poisons in our food, Rx, and hey, what about those mercury CFL
    mandated bulbs without proper disposal enforcement? That'll do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarum
    Yes I agree about the materialism and stuff like that but even that has been marketed to people sooooo much and perhaps some do not have the willpower to say no or the marketing hooks into cultural expectations and is very thorough. I've got a tinfoil wallet around my cards & ID now in preparation for this RFID marketing they say is coming - where they even know your medical problems so they can hook you with intimate personal knowledge and they can read how much is in your bank account just by walking in the store?
    I would not worry about that Sarum. There is a bill called HIPAA that has been around for a while now. It is very illegal and highly punishable if a health care provider or anyone else give out your health information without being ordered to do so through court order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarum
    Treason is right.

    Perot had some excellent points but his opposition made it their mission to marginalize the man and assault his character, his mental health, everything they could.
    I remember Perot saying that if we passed it we were going to hear "That giant sucking sound."
    Exactly. One thing I forgot to mention about the debate is that Perot was 100% correct about everything he said. He claimed that the lower wages and lack of regulation in Mexico would drain the US of jobs, while exporting to Mexico woud be difficult because the consumer base is too poor. That is what turned a huge trade surplus to an enormous trade deficit. Everything he said has proven to be completely true.

    In 1993 when NAFTA was being debated on, I was only 16 years ond, and had little interest in politics. I liked Perot because he seemed like an alternative to the usual politicians. Yet, the media lambasted him after the CNN debate, proclaiming that Gore had whiped the floor with him in that debate. After the media assault, I started hearing regular people make horrible comments about him. My Spanish teacher said, "My wife and I feel foolish for voting for Perot, he just looked like a dork in that debate." And my uncle said about the debate, "You really have to watch out for people like Perot, he could turn out to be the anti-Christ."

    Its incredible. The media assaulted Perot after the debate, proclaiming a dominating performance by Gore, and then regular folks fell in line and lambasted him and supported NAFTA.

    When all along Perot was telling the 100% truth. Time has proven that. And Gore was either lying through his teeth or completely uninformed. Funny how things work out.
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    Yeeeeeesh! Call me Granny!

    Perot did just fine - it was the after when all the TALKers, the opinon-makers used every dirty tactic in he book to make fun of his ears, his voice, his charts, his school-room style explanation - TALK is a 4-letter word and those traitors make a profession of it!

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    We were taught that Soviet style communism destroyed incentive to produce. Hey, the capitalist style of DEAD SCIENTISTS (among many others) kind of destroys my incentive to do alot of things too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarum
    We were taught that Soviet style communism destroyed incentive to produce. Hey, the capitalist style of DEAD SCIENTISTS (among many others) kind of destroys my incentive to do alot of things too.
    Very good point. Capitalism can be every bit as much of a failure as communism. IMO its all about finding the right "cocktail" of capitalism, socialism, and economic nationalism, among other systems. Americans getting caught up in this black and white, one extreme vs. another, and blind loyalty to one "ism" is largely responsible for our problems today.
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    Let me answer the original question in one word:

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    I think the OLD Capitalism (back when companies cared about our nation and didn't try to force bilingualism and globalism on us) mixed with Judeo-Christian values was the best system for us-today's Capitalism is just plain greed disguised as world unity, Communism means we all walk around in gray clothes looking like Stepfords, and Socialism means no privately-owned media-which can be dangerous if the gov't doesn't decide to accomodate free speech on its government-owned media.

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