Thread: Donald Trump’s Plan for Your Taxes Might Be EXACTLY What He Needs to Win the White Ho

Originally Posted by Judy

Who are you quoting now?

The people you are quoting now are the people who are responsible for sending our money supply, investment capital and manufacturers out of the country, the people who burden every business and every citizen with tax returns, invasion of financial privacy, higher prices covering the cost of tax payments and tax compliance, underfunding of Social Security and Medicare, and of course, the ever-growing $18 trillion and climbing national debt. These are the people you are quoting, people intent on destroying our nation in some bizarre inexplicable trek to "tax the rich" and our employers.

These are the people who work for a 501 C 3 "charity" fraud that doesn't pay any tax at all while using "charity" money in their quest to use laws that force everyone else to pay income taxes so their employer doesn't have to pay them. Under the FairTax, their game is over, because no business, profit or non-profit, pays any income tax so now they're on the same playing field as everyone else with one exception: when there is no income tax, there is nothing for this organization to "research", "report" or "testify" about. Like so many useless 501 C 3 "charity" frauds, under the FairTax, they're out of business because the FairTax is so simple, any fool or third-grader can understand it and for the first time in over 102 years, every enterprise operates on the same basis on a equal playing field and every person pays the FairTax based upon their own voluntary purchasing decisions. Of course all US citizens and legal permanent residents can sign up for a Rebate if they like and receive a monthly amount equal to the FairTax cost up to the household consumption allowance which for a family of 4 is $7,000 per year based on an annual consumption allowance of around $30,000. So their first $30,000 or so in spending on new goods and services is spent tax-free and since all used goods purchases are exempt which would include most homes, their first $40,000 plus is spent tax-free.

But that's okay, MW. I understand you have some bizarre affection for the income tax. Maybe one day, you'll decide to share why that is. Until then, we'll continue to banter on the subject of the FairTax, the best tax and economic development proposal that's ever been presented to the United States Congress and the American People.

Regardless of the source, the truth is the truth. I'm still trying to figure out why you're such a shill for the unfair tax plan. Honestly, I'm a little surprised that I'm the only one around here calling you on it. Just saying .........

Originally Posted by MW

Regardless of the source, the truth is the truth. I'm still trying to figure out why you're such a shill for the unfair tax plan. Honestly, I'm a little surprised that I'm the only one around here calling you on it. Just saying .........

But it isn't the truth, that's the whole point. You post absolute lies about the FairTax from the Anti-FairTax Lobby funded by the Income Tax Industry. The only people who support the income tax over the FairTax are a) people who work in or earn money from the income tax industry b) the IRS c) 501 C 3 "charity" frauds and d) uninformed people who believe the lies about the FairTax put out there by the Anti-FairTax Lobby.

Most of the people who support the income tax are people on the take with the income tax business, just as anyone who supports illegal immigration is on the take with the drug cartels, because there is no other rational explanation for supporting a 76,000 page income tax code that invades our privacy, steals our liberty, robs our earnings, runs our industries, technology, good jobs and capital out of the country, pays illegal aliens earned income tax credits for jobs they aren't even supposed to have, and is bankrupting our nation with a current $18 trillion and growing national debt, over a FairTax that doesn't do any of these things.

The reason no one else attacks me for posting about the FairTax is because they know it helps stops illegal immigration because illegal aliens are not eligible for the Rebate which puts them at a huge disadvantage financially when trying to undercut American Workers in the jobs market when Americans receive the Rebate and illegal aliens do not. Most people who work to stop illegal immigration want to stop it from every angle possible including a tax system that gives Americans a comparative advantage over illegal aliens like the FairTax does.

Most of us also want to stop this free trade treason nonsense, and our members and posters understand that the FairTax does this as well by taxing foreign imports the same as domestic products through the FairTax, in addition to any import duties they are subject to which protects our businesses with a legal playing field that they don't have now competing against imports that aren't subject to the US federal income tax.

Most of us also want to bring our industries and jobs back home so we can reduce unemployment and poverty and raise wages to sustainable and even prosperous levels, and the FairTax does this as well because it not only eliminates the personal income tax, it also does away with corporate income and payroll tax which together with the personal income tax that employers and consumers ultimately pay is what has run most of our industries, technology, good jobs and capital out of the country, so when we eliminate all these income taxes and replace them with the FairTax, our industries will all come roaring home where they belong and Americans will have good jobs again.

It's just common sense, MW. You're on the wrong side of this one.

FairTax Act of 2015: HR 25 in the US House of Representatives and S 155 in the US Senate.

I don't mind at all bantering with you about the FairTax, MW, because it is such a great piece of legislation and I love posting about it. It's not often when we have something positive to support, usually we're fighting against the negative, but with the FairTax, supporting, advocating and explaining such a positive piece of legislation is a privilege.

I thought I'd google a current comment or two on Trump and the FairTax, and here's what I found.

https://fairtax.org/articles/trump-f...y-the-tax-code

Trump says "go to the FairTax".

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...business-msnbc

Trump says, "I want to put H&R Block out of business, frankly."

Trump needs to come out strong for the FairTax, know it well enough to discuss it in all his interviews, debates and tweets, and with that, he'll have the right positions on immigration, trade and taxes. To me, that's the Trump Trifecta to win the Republican Primary and the General Election.

Judy, it's almost comical how you are always right on every issue and anyone that disagrees with you is always wrong. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the burden that will come from the unfair tax plan when it fails will fall on the middle class. One of the main problems with the unfair tax is that in order for it to work, many tax laws we currently have would need to be repealed, including the Sixteenth Amendment. If the amendment is not repealed numerous new taxes can be added to the plan ...... and make no mistake about it, that is exactly what will happen. If the existing tax laws, which include most state tax laws, are not repealed the plan won't work. This is probably intentional because if the other needed laws are not passed, the plan will fall apart and will result in more taxes for the middle class, but it will not reinstate the estate tax, gift tax, or capital gain taxes. Personally, I have no problem with the estate tax, gift tax, and capital gain taxes going away, however, I have a huge problem with the tax burden in this country falling on the middle class!

By the way, you never did give me an honest answer as to why your are constantly shilling for the unfair tax plan. You constant advertisement of the plan is way above and beyond simple support.

Originally Posted by MW

Judy, it's almost comical how you are always right on every issue and anyone that disagrees with you is always wrong. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the burden that will come from the unfair tax plan when it fails will fall on the middle class. One of the main problems with the unfair tax is that in order for it to work, many tax laws we currently have would need to be repealed, including the Sixteenth Amendment. If the amendment is not repealed numerous new taxes can be added to the plan ...... and make no mistake about it, that is exactly what will happen. If the existing tax laws, which include most state tax laws, are not repealed the plan won't work. This is probably intentional because if the other needed laws are not passed, the plan will fall apart and will result in more taxes for the middle class, but it will not reinstate the estate tax, gift tax, or capital gain taxes. Personally, I have no problem with the estate tax, gift tax, and capital gain taxes going away, however, I have a huge problem with the tax burden in this country falling on the middle class!

By the way, you never did give me an honest answer as to why your are constantly shilling for the unfair tax plan. You constant advertisement of the plan is way above and beyond simple support.

The tax burden under the FAIRTAX DOES NOT FALL ON THE MIDDLE CLASS. If you knew anything about either taxation, the income tax or the FairTax you would stop shilling this stupid false lie about it.

Furthermore, you don't even understand the value of the FairTax to the fundamental issues ALIPAC was created to deal with, How can you support in any way, shape or form a mandated income tax on middle class Americans that runs our industries out of the country, robs the paychecks of working Americans before they even see them, and hands out up to $35,000 in EITC's to illegal aliens who file at least 3 years of late tax returns reporting phony income that isn't even verified because it's illegal income?

You are entitled to your view on income taxes, for whatever reason you have it, the same as people who support illegal immigration. However, if you think for one minute I'm going to sit idly by while articles about tax plans are posted and mentioned on this site as well as other issues which the FairTax solves overnight, and not discuss the FairTax as a solution, then you need to pipe down and think again.

Originally Posted by Judy

The tax burden under the FAIRTAX DOES NOT FALL ON THE MIDDLE CLASS. If you knew anything about either taxation, the income tax or the FairTax you would stop shilling this stupid false lie about it.

Furthermore, you don't even understand the value of the FairTax to the fundamental issues ALIPAC was created to deal with, How can you support in any way, shape or form a mandated income tax on middle class Americans that runs our industries out of the country, robs the paychecks of working Americans before they even see them, and hands out up to $35,000 in EITC's to illegal aliens who file at least 3 years of late tax returns reporting phony income that isn't even verified because it's illegal income?

You are entitled to your view on income taxes, for whatever reason you have it, the same as people who support illegal immigration. However, if you think for one minute I'm going to sit idly by while articles about tax plans are posted and mentioned on this site as well as other issues which the FairTax solves overnight, and not discuss the FairTax as a solution, then you need to pipe down and think again.

This thread may be about taxes. However, many of the threads you push your advertisement on are not. Just saying .......

Originally Posted by MW

This thread may be about taxes. However, many of the threads you push your advertisement on are not. Just saying .......

This thread is about taxes and the other thread I posted on yesterday was about taxes. Other threads I may post about the FairTax on solve one of the problems raised in whatever article was posted and of course fully explained in my posts.

Why do you have a problem with me posting about the FairTax? It's legislation in Congress. HR 25 in the US House of Representatives with 71 Sponsors and Co-Sponsors and S 155 in the US Senate with 7 Sponsors/Co-Sponsors.