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02-07-2007, 08:50 PM #31
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Blue Jersey wrote:
I was watching Lou Dobbs and he stated that Duncan Hunter has enlisted 79 members of congress to support the 2 border agents..Does anyone knows who are those members and where can i look it up?
One thing ive heard from this list is, there's not a single democrats on it, and this is bad news because you dont want this thing to turned into a partisan issue..The entire illegal immigration debate has become a democrats versus republicans, mass deportation versus amnesty and this is what you dont want it to become.
Democrats doesnt want to be part of this because the Tancredo people are pushing it, and they hates Tancredo...I wouldnt be surprise if the only members that Hunter was able to enlist are 'just' members of the immigration house caucus which GOP members like flake and cannon are blaming for the lost of the house.
79 members out of 202 republicans?? So there's at least 123 GOP house members that didnt sign up for this? why??ALIPAC needs to come up with the list so we can analyze this list.
Duncan Hunter's resolution to free the border patrol agents currently has 79 cosponsors; almost half (32) of these are NOT members of the Immigration Reform Caucus. Lou Dobbs reported tonight that Hunter is working on getting a bunch of Democrats to sign on.
Blue Jersey, go pound sand.
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02-07-2007, 10:32 PM #32Originally Posted by MW
BTW did you all hear that Feinstein has signed on to demanding an investigation of the Ramos/Compean case?
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02-07-2007, 11:07 PM #33
BlueJersey wrote
12 million illegal immigrants that have 5 million U.S citizens children...Where are we going to put those kids?..You cant deport them because they are american citizens with the same rights that your childrens has
CrocketsGhost is right..he wrote
It was THEY who made the decision to violate the law by crossing our border, and so it is THEY who are responsible for accepting the consequences of their crimes.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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02-08-2007, 04:20 PM #34
BlueJersey,
They were not even considering their children, when they created them. Those children are exploited for citizenship. These parents never were having them to take care of or to raise. That child is nothing but used as a pawn, in their criminal activity of cheating the US government and pushing their illegal alien-selves onto the American public. Any parent that has an anchor baby is just using that child. They make me sick.
The responsible thing to do is don't breed'm if you can't feed'm. Stay in your homeland childless. That's responsible! Don't drag children into your criminal activity.
Those children are suffering because of their criminal parents. Not the US Government or because the citizens of the US want their laws enforced. Everyone of those children can leave with their parents. The aprents that created and used them.
Irresponsible Pity Party!!!!!!!!
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02-08-2007, 04:48 PM #35
So true Dixie!!
I do feel sorry for the children, as any person would, yet in that I cannot accept that they have been given full citizenship status only because their non-citizen parents gave birth to them here, instead of their own country."In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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02-08-2007, 05:00 PM #36
Lega4-ICE dont have no authority of what the parents decide for the child...All they can do is check the status of the child and if child is born here, the ball is in the parents's court.
There's no such laws that says ICE can force the parent to take the child or even ask who the child will be staying with.
What illegal immigrants usually do is, once they get arrested along with the child and ICE found that this child is U.S citizen, parent can call any family member to come pick the kids from the immigration camp and ICE can not ask the person picking the kids any kind of question because the kids is legal, therefore, ICE does not have the right to detain the US Citizen children.
This is the law, and what im saying is, ICE can get in big trouble if they deport a U.S citizen children against the parent's will...Its against the law to deport a U.S citzen....those childs arent green card holder, they are full fledge US citizen, therefore, ICE cant do anything about this..What cant you get???
Also, if you think the supreme court is eager to change this law, think again.
Its known by everyone that the supreme court has had the opportunity to pick this issue up for years..This issue is currently on deck but the supreme court just wont take it..They wont even debate this....You will need a congressinal majority to change this law and force the supreme court to take this up and under a democratic congress, this will never happen, not at least for the next 2 years.
Your hope is that republican takes over congress in 08 and tancredo has president, which will never happen.
Those historical laws are often never changed.
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02-08-2007, 05:39 PM #37Originally Posted by Dixie
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02-09-2007, 06:14 PM #38
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Lega4-ICE dont have no authority of what the parents decide for the child...All they can do is check the status of the child and if child is born here, the ball is in the parents's court.
There's no such laws that says ICE can force the parent to take the child or even ask who the child will be staying with.
What illegal immigrants usually do is, once they get arrested along with the child and ICE found that this child is U.S citizen, parent can call any family member to come pick the kids from the immigration camp and ICE can not ask the person picking the kids any kind of question because the kids is legal, therefore, ICE does not have the right to detain the US Citizen children.
This is the law, and what im saying is, ICE can get in big trouble if they deport a U.S citizen children against the parent's will...Its against the law to deport a U.S citzen....those childs arent green card holder, they are full fledge US citizen, therefore, ICE cant do anything about this..What cant you get???
Also, if you think the supreme court is eager to change this law, think again.
Its known by everyone that the supreme court has had the opportunity to pick this issue up for years..This issue is currently on deck but the supreme court just wont take it..They wont even debate this....You will need a congressinal majority to change this law and force the supreme court to take this up and under a democratic congress, this will never happen, not at least for the next 2 years.
Your hope is that republican takes over congress in 08 and tancredo has president, which will never happen.
Those historical laws are often never changed.
ICE has no real authority over American Citizens, no one has suggested that it does. But if "anchor babies" are granted American Citizenship because they are born under the "jurisdiction of the United States" as cited from the 14th Ammendment, the federal and state governments do have some authority over them as it would have over any American Citizen child. Such authority, as exercised by state child welfare agencies, public school districts, and federally by health and human services agencies.
If then the illegal alien parents leave the child behind, they have abandoned the child and the government must take some responsibility for its welfare and education. If the parents abanson the child, then should not parental rigts be severed (such as a future path to legal immigration)? That is my argument in a nutshell. If you want to address that, you are welcome to it. But don't put words in my mouth.
I get it. Now do you get it??
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02-09-2007, 06:46 PM #39
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HERE IS your list of co sponsors to duncan hunters bill
Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] - 1/18/2007
Rep Alexander, Rodney [LA-5] - 1/22/2007
Rep Baker, Richard H. [LA-6] - 1/18/2007
Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 1/18/2007
Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] - 1/18/2007
Rep Bishop, Rob [UT-1] - 1/18/2007
Rep Blackburn, Marsha [TN-7] - 1/18/2007
Rep Bonner, Jo [AL-1] - 1/18/2007
Rep Boozman, John [AR-3] - 1/30/2007
Rep Burgess, Michael C. [TX-26] - 1/18/2007
Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] - 1/18/2007
Rep Campbell, John [CA-48] - 1/24/2007
Rep Cannon, Chris [UT-3] - 1/18/2007
Rep Cantor, Eric [VA-7] - 1/18/2007
Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] - 1/18/2007
Rep Coble, Howard [NC-6] - 1/18/2007
Rep Cole, Tom [OK-4] - 1/18/2007
Rep Cubin, Barbara [WY] - 1/18/2007
Rep Davis, David [TN-1] - 1/18/2007
Rep Davis, Geoff [KY-4] - 1/18/2007
Rep Dent, Charles W. [PA-15] - 1/24/2007
Rep Doolittle, John T. [CA-4] - 2/8/2007
Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 1/18/2007
Rep English, Phil [PA-3] - 1/18/2007
Rep Everett, Terry [AL-2] - 1/18/2007
Rep Foxx, Virginia [NC-5] - 1/18/2007
Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] - 1/22/2007
Rep Gerlach, Jim [PA-6] - 1/18/2007
Rep Gilchrest, Wayne T. [MD-1] - 1/18/2007
Rep Gingrey, Phil [GA-11] - 1/18/2007
Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. [VA-5] - 1/18/2007
Rep Hastings, Doc [WA-4] - 1/18/2007
Rep Hayes, Robin [NC-8] - 1/18/2007
Rep Herger, Wally [CA-2] - 1/18/2007
Rep Hobson, David L. [OH-7] - 1/18/2007
Rep Johnson, Sam [TX-3] - 1/22/2007
Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 1/18/2007
Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] - 1/18/2007
Rep Kirk, Mark Steven [IL-10] - 1/18/2007
Rep LaHood, Ray [IL-18] - 1/18/2007
Rep Lamborn, Doug [CO-5] - 2/8/2007
Rep LaTourette, Steven C. [OH-14] - 1/18/2007
Rep Lewis, Ron [KY-2] - 1/18/2007
Rep LoBiondo, Frank A. [NJ-2] - 1/18/2007
Rep Manzullo, Donald A. [IL-16] - 1/18/2007
Rep Marchant, Kenny [TX-24] - 2/5/2007
Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] - 1/18/2007
Rep McHugh, John M. [NY-23] - 1/18/2007
Rep McKeon, Howard P. "Buck" [CA-25] - 1/18/2007
Rep Mica, John L. [FL-7] - 1/18/2007
Rep Miller, Gary G. [CA-42] - 1/18/2007
Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 1/22/2007
Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [CO-4] - 1/18/2007
Rep Myrick, Sue Wilkins [NC-9] - 1/18/2007
Rep Pearce, Stevan [NM-2] - 1/18/2007
Rep Peterson, John E. [PA-5] - 1/18/2007
Rep Pitts, Joseph R. [PA-16] - 1/18/2007
Rep Poe, Ted [TX-2] - 1/18/2007
Rep Porter, Jon C. [NV-3] - 1/18/2007
Rep Renzi, Rick [AZ-1] - 1/18/2007
Rep Rogers, Harold [KY-5] - 1/18/2007
Rep Rogers, Mike D. [AL-3] - 1/18/2007
Rep Rohrabacher, Dana [CA-46] - 1/18/2007
Rep Royce, Edward R. [CA-40] - 1/18/2007
Rep Saxton, Jim [NJ-3] - 1/18/2007
Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 1/18/2007
Rep Shadegg, John B. [AZ-3] - 1/18/2007
Rep Shimkus, John [IL-19] - 1/18/2007
Rep Smith, Christopher H. [NJ-4] - 1/18/2007
Rep Stearns, Cliff [FL-6] - 1/18/2007
Rep Sullivan, John [OK-1] - 1/18/2007
Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. [CO-6] - 1/18/2007
Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] - 1/18/2007
Rep Tiahrt, Todd [KS-4] - 1/18/2007
Rep Tiberi, Patrick J. [OH-12] - 1/18/2007
Rep Walsh, James T. [NY-25] - 1/18/2007
Rep Weldon, Dave [FL-15] - 1/18/2007
Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] - 1/18/2007
Rep Wilson, Joe [SC-2] - 1/18/2007
Rep Wolf, Frank R. [VA-10] - 1/22/2007
Rep Young, C.W. Bill [FL-10] - 1/18/2007
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02-09-2007, 09:02 PM #40
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A little surprising that Rep. Brian Bilbray has not signed up.
Also missing is Rep. Lamar Smith-TX.
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