Thread: Eric Trump: My dads immigration plan includes amnesty after deportation

Originally Posted by Judy

I'm a Trump Supporter who is all-in to win. It's a shame you and some others don't know what that means. This is a garbage article written by a former Speech writer for GW Bush and planted on redstate by a Bush supporter.

But hey, if Jeb Bush and the Washington Post anti-Trump columnists are your new best friends, have at it.

Okay, but the questions remains, did Trump's son say what is quoted as saying? Honestly, I suspect he did.

Newsweek

WHO KNEW? TRUMP FAVORS AMNESTY FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS

BY MARC THIESSEN ON 11/17/15 AT 1:27 PM

U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump listens to a question from the audience at one of the New England Council's 'Politics and Eggs' breakfasts in Manchester, New Hampshire, November 11. Under Trump’s immigration plan, almost all of the 11 million illegal aliens will get to return and get permanent legal status to stay in America, the author writes.

BRIAN SNYDER/REUTERS

This article first appeared on the American Enterprise Institute site.

Trump’s supporters loved his promise last week to create a “deportation force” to remove all 11 million illegal immigrants living in America, and his repeated declaration that everyone here illegally will “have to go.”

But his supporters tend to overlook his other promise—repeated in the Fox Business debate in Milwaukee on November 10—that under his immigration plan “they will come back.” (Click for transcript of debate.)

That’s right. Under Trump’s immigration plan, almost all of the 11 million illegal aliens (save for a small minority with criminal records) will get to return and get permanent legal status to stay here in America.

Trump supports amnesty.

On Fox News on November 12, Trump’s son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:

The point isn’t just deporting them, it’s deporting them and letting them back in legally. He’s been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but it’s deporting them and letting them back legally.

Eric Trump is right. His father has been crystal clear that he wants all the illegals to return and live in America.

Listen closely to what Trump is actually proposing. In an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash earlier this year, Trump explained his plan this way:

I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal….

A lot of these people are helping us … and sometimes it’s jobs a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I want to move ’em out, and we’re going to move ’em back in and let them be legal.

This is a policy called “touchback” and it was first proposed in 2007 by moderate Republican Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (Texas). She offered a “touchback” amendment on the Senate floor that would have required illegal immigrants to return to their home countries to apply for a special “Z visa” that would allow them to re-enter the United States in an expedited fashion and work here indefinitely.

Her amendment lost by a relatively close margin, 53-45. It was supported by most Republicans and even got five Democratic votes—senators Claire McCaskill, Max Baucus, Jon Tester, Byron Dorgan and John Rockefeller all voted for it.

The idea was considered so reasonable that in an April 22, 2007, editorial entitled “Progress on Immigration,” The New York Times declared:

It’s not ideal, but if a touchback provision is manageable and reassures people that illegal immigrants are indeed going to the back of the line, then it will be defensible.

So what Trump is proposing today—sending illegal immigrants back to their home countries and then allowing the “good ones” to return in an “expedited” fashion—was endorsed by the liberal New York Times!

In fact, the idea even got the support of—wait for it—illegal immigrants.

In 2007, the Los Angeles Times did the first telephone poll of illegal immigrants and asked whether they would go home under a “touchback” law that allowed them to return with legal status. Sixty-three percent said yes, 27 percent said no and 10 percent were undecided. If they were promised a path to citizenship when they returned, the number who said they would leave and return legally grew to 85 percent.

Donald Trump’s detractors were aghast at his invocation during the Fox Business debate of President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s “Operation Wetback,” which forcibly removed 1.5 million illegal immigrants, and his promise the following day to establish a “deportation force” to remove the 11 million illegal immigrants living in America today.

Never mind the fact that we already have a “deportation force”—it’s called U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

The fact is, Trump won’t need a “deportation force” or an “Operation Wetback” to get illegal immigrants to go home—because he has promised that they can return quickly with legal status.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants say they would voluntarily cooperate with Trump’s plan.

If anything, the “touchback” plan Trump endorses was attacked by conservatives back in 2007. In an editorial, National Review called touchback a “fraud” that gives illegal aliens “their own privileged pathway” ahead of “applicants who have complied with US immigration laws.”

That is precisely what Trump is proposing. Under his plan, illegal aliens don’t have to go to the end of the line behind those who have complied with our immigration laws. They get an “expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal.” They get to cut the line and then stay in America.

So if you get past Trump’s bluster, the plan he is proposing is so liberal that it earned the support of The New York Times and the opposition of National Review.

The reason is simple: Trump’s plan is in fact a form of amnesty—you just have to leave the country briefly to get it.

So when Trump says of illegal immigrants “they all have to go,” don’t overlook the fact that under his plan almost all would be able to immediately return—and stay.

This means there is very little difference between his plan and what John Kasich and Jeb Bush are supporting.

And most of his supporters don’t even realize it.

http://www.newsweek.com/who-knew-tru...igrants-395512

Originally Posted by MW

Okay, but the questions remains, did Trump's son say what is quoted as saying? Honestly, I suspect he did.

It's one sentence of a much larger conversation. So it's not the whole quote but a sentence plucked out of it, which usually means it's not true, otherwise they would have recited the entirety. Either way, it's not Trump's plan.

There are more than ample comments about Trump's position by Trump himself on deportation of illegal aliens and who he thinks could possibly be allowed back in legally at some point. And so, the article does not accurately relate Trump's plan, which makes it garbage. It's reciting provisions from old legislation as Trump's plan, when that is not his plan at all.

But have fun with your new best friends!!

Text of the fourth Republican debate in Milwaukee

. . . BARTIROMO:
Can we just send 5 million people back with no effect on economy?

TRUMP:
You are going to have to bring people — you are going to have to send people out. Look, we’re a country…

BARTIROMO:
So what will you do?

TRUMP:
Maria, we’re a country of laws. We either have a country or we don’t have a country. We are a country of laws. Going to have to go out and they will come back but they are going to have to go out and hopefully they get back.

But we have no choice if we’re going to run our country properly and if we’re going to be a country.

(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

BARTIROMO:
Thank you, sir. . .

http://time.com/4107636/transcript-r...-in-milwaukee/

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Newsweek

WHO KNEW? TRUMP FAVORS AMNESTY FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS

BY MARC THIESSEN ON 11/17/15 AT 1:27 PM

U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump listens to a question from the audience at one of the New England Council's 'Politics and Eggs' breakfasts in Manchester, New Hampshire, November 11. Under Trump’s immigration plan, almost all of the 11 million illegal aliens will get to return and get permanent legal status to stay in America, the author writes.

BRIAN SNYDER/REUTERS

This article first appeared on the American Enterprise Institute site.

Trump’s supporters loved his promise last week to create a “deportation force” to remove all 11 million illegal immigrants living in America, and his repeated declaration that everyone here illegally will “have to go.”

But his supporters tend to overlook his other promise—repeated in the Fox Business debate in Milwaukee on November 10—that under his immigration plan “they will come back.” (Click for transcript of debate.)

That’s right. Under Trump’s immigration plan, almost all of the 11 million illegal aliens (save for a small minority with criminal records) will get to return and get permanent legal status to stay here in America.

Trump supports amnesty.

On Fox News on November 12, Trump’s son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:

The point isn’t just deporting them, it’s deporting them and letting them back in legally. He’s been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but it’s deporting them and letting them back legally.

Eric Trump is right. His father has been crystal clear that he wants all the illegals to return and live in America.

Listen closely to what Trump is actually proposing. In an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash earlier this year, Trump explained his plan this way:

I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal….

A lot of these people are helping us … and sometimes it’s jobs a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I want to move ’em out, and we’re going to move ’em back in and let them be legal.

This is a policy called “touchback” and it was first proposed in 2007 by moderate Republican Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (Texas). She offered a “touchback” amendment on the Senate floor that would have required illegal immigrants to return to their home countries to apply for a special “Z visa” that would allow them to re-enter the United States in an expedited fashion and work here indefinitely.

Her amendment lost by a relatively close margin, 53-45. It was supported by most Republicans and even got five Democratic votes—senators Claire McCaskill, Max Baucus, Jon Tester, Byron Dorgan and John Rockefeller all voted for it.

The idea was considered so reasonable that in an April 22, 2007, editorial entitled “Progress on Immigration,” The New York Times declared:

It’s not ideal, but if a touchback provision is manageable and reassures people that illegal immigrants are indeed going to the back of the line, then it will be defensible.

So what Trump is proposing today—sending illegal immigrants back to their home countries and then allowing the “good ones” to return in an “expedited” fashion—was endorsed by the liberal New York Times!

In fact, the idea even got the support of—wait for it—illegal immigrants.

In 2007, the Los Angeles Times did the first telephone poll of illegal immigrantsand asked whether they would go home under a “touchback” law that allowed them to return with legal status. Sixty-three percent said yes, 27 percent said no and 10 percent were undecided. If they were promised a path to citizenship when they returned, the number who said they would leave and return legally grew to 85 percent.

Donald Trump’s detractors were aghast at his invocation during the Fox Business debate of President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s “Operation Wetback,” which forcibly removed 1.5 million illegal immigrants, and his promise the following day to establish a “deportation force” to remove the 11 million illegal immigrants living in America today.

Never mind the fact that we already have a “deportation force”—it’s called U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

The fact is, Trump won’t need a “deportation force” or an “Operation Wetback” to get illegal immigrants to go home—because he has promised that they can return quickly with legal status.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants say they would voluntarily cooperate with Trump’s plan.

If anything, the “touchback” plan Trump endorses was attacked by conservatives back in 2007. In an editorial, National Review called touchback a “fraud” that gives illegal aliens “their own privileged pathway” ahead of “applicants who have complied with US immigration laws.”

That is precisely what Trump is proposing. Under his plan, illegal aliens don’t have to go to the end of the line behind those who have complied with our immigration laws. They get an “expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal.” They get to cut the line and then stay in America.

So if you get past Trump’s bluster, the plan he is proposing is so liberal that it earned the support of The New York Times and the opposition of National Review.

The reason is simple: Trump’s plan is in fact a form of amnesty—you just have to leave the country briefly to get it.

So when Trump says of illegal immigrants “they all have to go,” don’t overlook the fact that under his plan almost all would be able to immediately return—and stay.

This means there is very little difference between his plan and what John Kasich and Jeb Bush are supporting.

And most of his supporters don’t even realize it.

http://www.newsweek.com/who-knew-tru...igrants-395512

Same old article, by same Bush Plant author, Marc Thiessen, former speech writer for GW Bush and weekly columnist for the Washington Post.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Newsweek

WHO KNEW? TRUMP FAVORS AMNESTY FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS

BY MARC THIESSEN ON 11/17/15 AT 1:27 PM

U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump listens to a question from the audience at one of the New England Council's 'Politics and Eggs' breakfasts in Manchester, New Hampshire, November 11. Under Trump’s immigration plan, almost all of the 11 million illegal aliens will get to return and get permanent legal status to stay in America, the author writes.

BRIAN SNYDER/REUTERS

This article first appeared on the American Enterprise Institute site.

Trump’s supporters loved his promise last week to create a “deportation force” to remove all 11 million illegal immigrants living in America, and his repeated declaration that everyone here illegally will “have to go.”

But his supporters tend to overlook his other promise—repeated in the Fox Business debate in Milwaukee on November 10—that under his immigration plan “they will come back.” (Click for transcript of debate.)

That’s right. Under Trump’s immigration plan, almost all of the 11 million illegal aliens (save for a small minority with criminal records) will get to return and get permanent legal status to stay here in America.

Trump supports amnesty.

On Fox News on November 12, Trump’s son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:

The point isn’t just deporting them, it’s deporting them and letting them back in legally. He’s been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but it’s deporting them and letting them back legally.

Eric Trump is right. His father has been crystal clear that he wants all the illegals to return and live in America.

Listen closely to what Trump is actually proposing. In an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash earlier this year, Trump explained his plan this way:

I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal….

A lot of these people are helping us … and sometimes it’s jobs a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I want to move ’em out, and we’re going to move ’em back in and let them be legal.

This is a policy called “touchback” and it was first proposed in 2007 by moderate Republican Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (Texas). She offered a “touchback” amendment on the Senate floor that would have required illegal immigrants to return to their home countries to apply for a special “Z visa” that would allow them to re-enter the United States in an expedited fashion and work here indefinitely.

Her amendment lost by a relatively close margin, 53-45. It was supported by most Republicans and even got five Democratic votes—senators Claire McCaskill, Max Baucus, Jon Tester, Byron Dorgan and John Rockefeller all voted for it.

The idea was considered so reasonable that in an April 22, 2007, editorial entitled “Progress on Immigration,” The New York Times declared:

It’s not ideal, but if a touchback provision is manageable and reassures people that illegal immigrants are indeed going to the back of the line, then it will be defensible.

So what Trump is proposing today—sending illegal immigrants back to their home countries and then allowing the “good ones” to return in an “expedited” fashion—was endorsed by the liberal New York Times!

In fact, the idea even got the support of—wait for it—illegal immigrants.

In 2007, the Los Angeles Times did the first telephone poll of illegal immigrantsand asked whether they would go home under a “touchback” law that allowed them to return with legal status. Sixty-three percent said yes, 27 percent said no and 10 percent were undecided. If they were promised a path to citizenship when they returned, the number who said they would leave and return legally grew to 85 percent.

Donald Trump’s detractors were aghast at his invocation during the Fox Business debate of President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s “Operation Wetback,” which forcibly removed 1.5 million illegal immigrants, and his promise the following day to establish a “deportation force” to remove the 11 million illegal immigrants living in America today.

Never mind the fact that we already have a “deportation force”—it’s called U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

The fact is, Trump won’t need a “deportation force” or an “Operation Wetback” to get illegal immigrants to go home—because he has promised that they can return quickly with legal status.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants say they would voluntarily cooperate with Trump’s plan.

If anything, the “touchback” plan Trump endorses was attacked by conservatives back in 2007. In an editorial, National Review called touchback a “fraud” that gives illegal aliens “their own privileged pathway” ahead of “applicants who have complied with US immigration laws.”

That is precisely what Trump is proposing. Under his plan, illegal aliens don’t have to go to the end of the line behind those who have complied with our immigration laws. They get an “expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal.” They get to cut the line and then stay in America.

So if you get past Trump’s bluster, the plan he is proposing is so liberal that it earned the support of The New York Times and the opposition of National Review.

The reason is simple: Trump’s plan is in fact a form of amnesty—you just have to leave the country briefly to get it.

So when Trump says of illegal immigrants “they all have to go,” don’t overlook the fact that under his plan almost all would be able to immediately return—and stay.

This means there is very little difference between his plan and what John Kasich and Jeb Bush are supporting.

And most of his supporters don’t even realize it.

http://www.newsweek.com/who-knew-tru...igrants-395512

Well, I guess this story pretty much removes all doubts of what Trump's son said and where he stand on amnesty!

JohnDoe, is this story in ALIAPC's archives? I don't remember seeing it here before. If it is fine, if not, it probably needs its own thread.

Originally Posted by MW

Well, I guess this story pretty much removes all doubts of what Trump's son said and where he stand on amnesty!

JohnDoe, is this story in ALIAPC's archives? I don't remember seeing it here before. If it is fine, if not, it probably needs its own thread.

LOL!! Hilarious!! This is the same old article you posted about from redstate, the one written by Marc Thiessen for AEI, former GW Bush speechwriter and weekly columnist for the Washington Post. Don't you even read yhe Bush Planted Anti-Trump garbage you post enough to recognize it??!!

This is getting funny enough to be our own SNL show.

Originally Posted by Judy

LOL!! Hilarious!! This is the same old article you posted about from redstate, the one written by Marc Thiessen for AEI, former GW Bush speechwriter and weekly columnist for the Washington Post. Don't you even read yhe Bush Planted Anti-Trump garbage you post enough to recognize it??!!

This is getting funny enough to be our own SNL show.

I can do without your personal attacks, insults, and demeaning attitude, Judy. This article may be by the same writer with some of the same facts but it is much more in-depth than the article I posted. Even a casual glance would tell you that.

Originally Posted by MW

I can do without your personal attacks, insults, and demeaning attitude, Judy. This article may be by the same writer with some of the same facts but it is much more in-depth than the article I posted. Even a casual glance would tell you that.

LOL!! Oh my God, so you didn't even click on the link in your redstate post to read the actual article it was quoting that was on the AEI site written by Marc Thiessen, former Bush speechwriter and weekly columnist for the Washington Post??!! It's the same "in-depth" article. Word for word.

Hilarious!!

And if you don't mind, I'm remaining in my "fantasy world", with my "blind loyalty" and "hero worship", "rah-rah cheerleading the pep squad", for Donald J Trump all the way to the White House, because I am a:

TRUMP SUPPORTER.

None of your "personal attacks, insults and demeaning attitude towards me" as shown in the quotes above will change that hard core, hard line reality, because we're all-in to win.

So if you want to take Trump down, you're going to have to do far better with your googling, then "casual glances" of what you post and learn to bear the Agony of Defeat.

No one can win support for their candidate by attacking people on the internet.

They can make enemies for their candidate by attacking people on the internet.