Thread: Flag in Obama's Office

Originally Posted by recce1

Chosen, my original intent was to say both would be unfair but I'll take off the gloves and change that. My analogy comparing the actions of Sen. Obama and Rep. Paul is fair, especially in light of your choice to refer to Sen. Obama as B. Hussein Obama. No doubt you’re implying he's Muslim, which of course would be an outright lie. Many of those I have heard and seen claiming so are Ron Paul supporters. Why is that?

Is Obama's name not B. Hussein Obama? I fail to see when Chosen made any implication to him being Muslim. What implications were made is that B. Hussein Obama knew or those who are running his election knew who was running the office here in Houston and no doubt there was a background check done before they allowed that party to represent him. Putting up the flag of a know Marxist symbol is enough to worry us all. Especially when B. Hussein Obama is running for our countries highest office. More especially when B. Hussein Obama's political views closely resemble Marxists ideals.

I think I have read this entire thread and saw not one mention of the fact that it was a cuban flag that was hanging in the office. Lots of mentions of a cuban flag with che on it though. How come we always get stuck with the emigrants that won't stay and clean up their own mess? They didn't fight for their own country when they were there but they'll come here and run their mouths til the cows come home. cubans aren't interested in being Americans. They won't learn English. I lived in Miami for 25 years and it was pretty horrible with the cubans there. cuban flags everywhere. That is insulting to Americans to have people invited to your country and when you get there all you do is complain.

Originally Posted by Reno_Raider

I think I have read this entire thread and saw not one mention of the fact that it was a cuban flag that was hanging in the office. Lots of mentions of a cuban flag with che on it though. How come we always get stuck with the emigrants that won't stay and clean up their own mess? They didn't fight for their own country when they were there but they'll come here and run their mouths til the cows come home. cubans aren't interested in being Americans. They won't learn English. I lived in Miami for 25 years and it was pretty horrible with the cubans there. cuban flags everywhere. That is insulting to Americans to have people invited to your country and when you get there all you do is complain.

Great post. I asked for directios once in Miami - people looked at me like I was an idiot as soon as I started speaking English.

If we are to hope for open dialogue we must remember that a liberal is not a socialist is not a bomb throwing communist like Che Guevarra was. To claim that Obama is no different from Che is to close off cogent reasoned discussion. The same has been said by partisan liberal Democrats about conservatives. How many times have they made the implied connection: conservative, right wing, fascist, Nazi?

The problem facing this country is that we have allowed politicians and special interest groups to Balkanize the country, putting it on a road to being ungovernable except by force. That's the objective of the far left and of the neoconservative. I contend that we conservatives must act in accordance with higher principles. We mustn’t adopt the tactics of our opponents or we become no better than they and have no more moral claim to governance than they. I submit that this also applies to our foreign conduct. Make no mistake, I'm not a pacifist and I agree with Teddy Roosevelt when he said "The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer." But I also agree with Civil War General and later Senator Carl Schurz, “Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right.â€

Originally Posted by Reno_Raider

I think I have read this entire thread and saw not one mention of the fact that it was a cuban flag that was hanging in the office. Lots of mentions of a cuban flag with che on it though. How come we always get stuck with the emigrants that won't stay and clean up their own mess? They didn't fight for their own country when they were there but they'll come here and run their mouths til the cows come home. cubans aren't interested in being Americans. They won't learn English. I lived in Miami for 25 years and it was pretty horrible with the cubans there. cuban flags everywhere. That is insulting to Americans to have people invited to your country and when you get there all you do is complain.

I know your pain. Years ago I took my ex-wife, whom I still call my better half, to Long Island to see about a nationally renowned medical college there. While driving thru Jamaica, Long Island NY, I stopped at gas stations several times to ask directions. I might as well have been in Jamaica the Caribbean; trying to ask direction to a major university there was impossible. Spanish, Arabic, Chinese; fine, English – forget it.

It’s not that I wouldn’t mind sitting on a warm Jamaica beach in the Caribbean with a tall rum and coke in one hand and a dark honey in the other, but by golly, I thought this was America. I’m all for diversity; as the French say, Vive le Difference! But English should and must be the cement that makes us a nation. If not we might as well hang it up and realize that there will be Aztlan in the West, a Black Ebonic Nation in the South, and a Muslim Caliphate in the East. BTW, where can we buy a prayer rug and in which dirction is Mecca?

recce1,

Welcome to ALIPAC!!

Although your first article was written in Aug.2007, this is the first time I have had the pleasure of reading them.

I find your articles very refreshing and enjoyable reading, as are Chosen's.

Darlene

Originally Posted by PeachPie

I have never been so scared.

Plus, Obama says over and over again, that the poor people will not have to worry, because he will see to it that their needs will be taken care of.......Guess where he plans on getting the money. And that is not counting the millions more illegals he plans on bringing here for us to take care of.

The best days of America are behind us.

Pray for a miracle! I don't care what kind, just something to drastically stop what is about to happen.

I'm more optomistic. Although its been driven downward and is reviled by the mass media the spirit and determination that built our Nation still dwells latent within many Americans.

bigtex, please don't be so obviously disingenuous. You know full well that when people try to emphasize Sen. Obama's middle name they are implying he's Muslim. Quite a few partisans have tried to imply or have outright claimed that Sen. Obama is Muslim, that he was educated in his early years in a radical Islamic Madrassah, and that his father was a radical Muslim. All three contentions are false; deliberate lies started by hate mongers, racists, and rabid partisans.

Sen. Obama is a Christian who attends the United Church of Christ, a nationwide denomination. Granted his pastor is quite controversial. When he was taken to Indonesia he first attended a public school for two years that had students of several faiths and then attended a Catholic school for two years. His father was a non-practicing Muslim and his mother was an atheist and a socialist.

Now before you try to misinterpret what I've written, let me say I don't support Sen. Obama. As a matter of fact I liked Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter, and Tom Tancredo; Romney and Huckabee being too liberal for me to say nothing of Sen. McCain. I'm a curmudgeon conservative who believes not only should our borders be made secure, but all 12 to 20 million illegals in the US should be forced out. Excusing criminal activity leads to anarchy, and being an illegal is being a criminal in my book. We should then tell Mexican President to stop his country’s interference in our laws or that we will adopt Mexico’s laws with regard to immigration. They’re quite draconian compared to ours. I'm also a believer in constitutional constructionism; i.e., the Constitution says what it means and means what it says. For those reasons I would even favor the impeachment of Pres. Bush as he has no intention of enforcing our immigration laws and has gutted the Constitution in the name of security.

Originally Posted by recce1

I know your pain. Years ago I took my ex-wife, whom I still call my better half, to Long Island to see about a nationally renowned medical college there. While driving thru Jamaica, Long Island NY, I stopped at gas stations several times to ask directions. I might as well have been in Jamaica the Caribbean; trying to ask direction to a major university there was impossible. Spanish, Arabic, Chinese; fine, English – forget it.

Come to Houston some time. I am sitting in my classroom right now looking at this forum while the kids wait in the hallways until the bell sounds to start school. It sound like some kind of Mexican fiesta outside my room. Loud horrible Mexican music blaring and not a word of English being spoken (yelled). I feel like I am living and teaching in another country.

Not to mention I have had to dumb down my lesson so much that a monkey could pass. Everyday I wonder why I bother.

bigtex, unfortunately you touch on another problem that's tearing down our country. Due to the last four decades of liberal pandering to the fragile psyches of minorities and those who speak English as a second language, barely, educators like you have been forced to dumb down the curriculums in our K thru 12 kindergarten schools. We're told we mustn't flunk children, we must excuse unruly behavior, we must socialize them according to the liberal mandate, and then we must tell them they are great even though they aren't ready for the real world. The three Rs are now romping raunchy rebellion.

On the forums on AOL the posters are often semi-illiterate, aliterate, inerudite, with a unique inability to compose cogent remarks. The spelling, grammatical structure, and logic often leaves a great deal to be desired. And if you correct egregious posts you're chastised for elitism. As the claim, it's the feelings that count.

And the latter is the major difference between liberals and conservatives. For liberals it's all about feelings; facts, structure, or logic be damned. To conservatives most often the ability to convey facts and ideas cogently and rationally is more important than wearing one's feeling on their sleeves. Unfortunately that's so politically incorrect. That’s how Sen. Obama can get away with what are essentially pep rallies and lead the liberal Democratic Party.

Our founding Fathers believed that a moral and educated society was essential to a free unfettered people. Now that is gone and so is our once democratic Republic under the rule of constitutional law. Yet people ask themselves why this has come about. The answer is that we have reaped what we have sown and it’s a fate well deserved. There are solutions, but it will take great courage and effort to change the course of this once great beacon of hope that is America.