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    Quote Originally Posted by cplob
    I’m beginning to feel as if half the Country has been subliminally possessed by the Obama band wagon and we are the only people they’ve been unable to infiltrate. I’m telling you, something is eerily wrong here.
    Anyone else? or am I just too resistant?
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    Will the canards and innuendoes come home to roost?

    So the Cuban flag with the picture of Che Guerra in a just opened Obama office in Houston is proof of Obama’s communist leanings? It seems desperate people just love to show how gullible they are. I guess it hasn’t occurred to some that both Hillary and Obama are supported by those who favor illegal immigration including those from groups favoring Aztlan and better treatment of Cuba. Now when it can be proved that the Obama campaign has been made aware of the flag and refuses to intervene then I will be concerned over that incident.

    By the way, didn’t Ron Paul receive and keep donations from a White Supremacist group? Does that mean Ron Paul is a Nazi? And didn’t Trent Lott say some kind words about Strom Thurmond? Does that make the Republican Party a bunch of red-necked racists? The analogies would be more than fair considering the standards many use. So let’s be far more careful about the canards, innuendoes, and prevarications folks. We don’t want to be associated with partisan liberal Democrats, do we?
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    Re: Will the canards and innuendoes come home to roost?

    Quote Originally Posted by recce1
    So the Cuban flag with the picture of Che Guerra in a just opened Obama office in Houston is proof of Obama’s communist leanings? It seems desperate people just love to show how gullible they are. I guess it hasn’t occurred to some that both Hillary and Obama are supported by those who favor illegal immigration including those from groups favoring Aztlan and better treatment of Cuba. Now when it can be proved that the Obama campaign has been made aware of the flag and refuses to intervene then I will be concerned over that incident.

    By the way, didn’t Ron Paul receive and keep donations from a White Supremacist group? Does that mean Ron Paul is a Nazi? And didn’t Trent Lott say some kind words about Strom Thurmond? Does that make the Republican Party a bunch of red-necked racists? The analogies would be more than fair considering the standards many use. So let’s be far more careful about the canards, innuendoes, and prevarications folks. We don’t want to be associated with partisan liberal Democrats, do we?
    The really SCARY Thing about this Flag w/Riverra on it is this:
    NO ONE KNOWS WHAT RIVERRA DID! WHAT HIS JOB WAS!
    And when I say NO ONE....I'm BETTING OBAMA IS ONE OF THEM!
    Ignorance is a GENE FOR SOME!
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    Re: Flag in VOLUNTEERS for Obama Office

    Quote Originally Posted by Logic-Tight
    Don't be stupid. The office was opened by volunteers in Houston and was not an official campaign office. A poster of Bush in the HQ of the American Nazi Party doesn't make Bush a Nazi, and one of Che in a volunteers for Obama office doesn't make Obama a Communist.

    Stick to real issues.[/list]
    Sorry, but if there was a NAZI Party Poster in Bushes office I would be screaming that he be tossed out of his office. I think you missed the point, what we are concerned about is we fear much of the support and money Obama may be receiving is money from the Communist party.
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    Re: Will the canards and innuendoes come home to roost?

    Quote Originally Posted by recce1
    By the way, didn’t Ron Paul receive and keep donations from a White Supremacist group? Does that mean Ron Paul is a Nazi? And didn’t Trent Lott say some kind words about Strom Thurmond? Does that make the Republican Party a bunch of red-necked racists? The analogies would be more than fair considering the standards many use. So let’s be far more careful about the canards, innuendoes, and prevarications folks. We don’t want to be associated with partisan liberal Democrats, do we?
    If it weren't for the left's insistance that certain groups are acceptable, yet others are not, I could give a rat's butt about who supports Obama. My biggest beef is indeed their double standard.

    They shouldn't be the only group who gets to choose what is outlawed as "hate speech."
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    One of the really scary thing about Obama is he seems to be
    really popular with lots of 3rd world tin pot despots , they love the idea of having a hard core socialist/marxist elected President of this country

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    For those who don’t know who Che Guevara was here are some facts. Ernesto Guevara de la Serna (June 14, 1928– October 9, 1967), commonly known as Che Guevara was an Argentine-born Marxist revolutionary, international political figure, author, military theorist, social philosopher, medical physician, and leader of Cuban and internationalist guerrillas. When Castro seized power in Cuba Guevara was made “supreme prosecutor", overseeing the public revolutionary tribunals and executions of between of hundreds suspected “war criminalsâ€
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    Re: Will the canards and innuendoes come home to roost?

    Quote Originally Posted by recce1

    By the way, didn’t Ron Paul receive and keep donations from a White Supremacist group? Does that mean Ron Paul is a Nazi? And didn’t Trent Lott say some kind words about Strom Thurmond? Does that make the Republican Party a bunch of red-necked racists? The analogies would be more than fair considering the standards many use. So let’s be far more careful about the canards, innuendoes, and prevarications folks. We don’t want to be associated with partisan liberal Democrats, do we?
    Of course this logic is absolutely incorrect. There is simply no analogy to be made between the two. You know this I am sure. People who are selected to run an office are chosen by folks in the campaign. Anyone can donate money, this is not subjected to the same processes at all and is completely different. The individuals chosen to head that office were known to members of Obamas campaign, they weren't simply random folk who showed up and opened an office in Obama's name. Volunteerism is in no way a shield of blame, the vast majority of people who make a politicians campaign possible are volunteers, comparatively very few are payrolled. I am fairly sure you wouldn't be willing to say that payroll is an endorsement now would you? If truth be known the left has demonized many on simply relative speculations of association and there are vast political tomes of loose and emotionally driven political texts that struggle to find comparisons and patterns without an ounce of tangible evidence. In fact, without post-modernism, I would venture to say that many of the "held beliefs" on the left would crumble due t an illogical and non-cohesive structure.

    There are very many things wrong with this display.
    These people represent Obama and support him. Their very first instincts are to display boldly a very anti-American, pro-communist regimes flag with a super imposed terrorist on it. Their candidate is running for president of the country that is the proclaimed enemy of the forces icons they display. Now if there was a reaction by the campaign to distance itself from the flag, the people behind it and the iconography it represents that would give a little credibility. However, there has been nothing mentioned at all, no renouncement of the incident, no outrage on the part of B. Hussein Obama as the candidate for the Presidency of the US that a communist and terrorist icon was displayed in his name and certainly no official explanation. The only defense of it is from democrat supporters online worried about how this will "sell." These relative "moderates" only believe that it will be hard to sell Che as a revolutionary. And we all know that there are a great deal of left wing radicals in the democratic party that support communism and Che. To deny this would be silly.

    We have to understand that the sentiment expressed by those in that office represent a very large portion of the B. Hussein Obama movement in general. There has been no distancing or denouncement of the principles stated by this hate speech on the part of democrats, no effort made or opportunity taken to lay out why democratic principles are very different than those proposed by the communist regime of Cuba. So lets not let this issue be washed over, it is a terrible incident to be sure for the democrats, but for folk who like the constitution and liberty it is like a shot over the bow.

    What we can learn from this is what lurks beneath the scenes of the democratic party. Don't believe me? Then I urge you to hit up a college Obama supporter and ask them to regurgitate their philosophy to you. What you get is a great deal of left wing radicalism that matches the sentiments of the terrible hate icons hanging in B. Hussein Obamas office. And their is an even greater lesson to be gained and that is how the democratic party is dealing with this issue. It is a preview of how they will deal with all of their leakings and misfortunes when they surface if they (probably will) gain office this November. It doesn't take a genius to know that the Europeans, Chinese, Iranians and N Koreans will eat Obama alive. He will resort to the Clintonian method of bribery, maybe send them some super computers and cash to keep quiet. Maybe look the other way on Chinese trade deficits, troop build ups and illegal goods. Deregulate corps to facilitate false growth and champion the addition of 2 million minimum wage jobs by illegals as job creation. And if the underhanded techniques and individuals associated with Obama who helped to acheive these "goals" were exposed, there would be this same "I didn't know" attitude. What the democrats have shown is that not taking responsibility for your actions is alive and well. Blame others before you blame yourself. What happened here is a preview of the gloating and massive rush of leftist hate speech that will flow into our tv sets and college campuses following B. Hussein Obamas victory.

    Make no mistake about it. The display of these hate icons was designed to hurt others, to cause pain and mock Americans. It is that simple.

    We wouldn't want to explore the other analysis of this, which is that B. Hussein Obama campaign isn't aware of what is going on. If there is this kind of support at the public level, just imagine what kind of people will be in office, behind the scene influencing decisions...You can gurantee they hold the same values, they just aren't as dumb to fly the flag, they would rather impose their authoritarian beliefs covertly.

    We have to make the democrats reponsible for this. Since they take no public stance in opposition to this they support it. And of course this is backed up by the people who sport the same icons at illegal immigrant rallies and democratic conventions.

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    Unfair analogy?

    Chosen, my original intent was to say both would be unfair but I'll take off the gloves and change that. My analogy comparing the actions of Sen. Obama and Rep. Paul is fair, especially in light of your choice to refer to Sen. Obama as B. Hussein Obama. No doubt you’re implying he's Muslim, which of course would be an outright lie. Many of those I have heard and seen claiming so are Ron Paul supporters. Why is that?

    Why is it that Rep. Paul's supporters have so much in common with acerbic partisan left wing-liberals whose stock and trade are canards, innuendoes, prevarication, and ad hominem attacks? Not only has his supporters allied themselves with White Supremacists and Truthers, so has Rep. Ron Paul. By the way, there are photos proving the former and he has refused to return the money from them so I believe it's fair to judge him by that. Furthermore, I had the unpleasant experience of being called scum, traitor, and worse by a big name Rep. Ron Paul supporter and blogger because I served in the military. Considering Rep. Ron Paul's performance during a debate in implying our Navy leaders were lying about the Straight of Hormuz incident it doesn't surprise me. Claim what he and his supporters may, they have little respect for our service people.

    In my opinion, the Republican Party hasn't a conservative contender in the race and that includes Rep. Paul. And I certainly won't disagree with the charge that Sen. Obama is the most liberal senator. As for Sen. Hillary Clinton, since Whitewater she’s been known for her dishonesty and chicanery. It seems neither major party gives conservatives a decent choice and I won't vote Republican for the sake of victory and power for the Republican Party out of fear for the big bad wolf. It's time conservatives told the Republican Party that they've taken us for granted one to many times.
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    Well, I don't see why Obama would object, the politics of both of them are almost identical. People REALLY need to find out how far left he really is.

    Didn't see this in the thread, lst found the volunteer:

    http://lonestartimes.com/2008/02/13/ocf2/

    There's even a picture of her with Obama, and turns out she hosted a "Drum Circle" for her socialist guru.
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