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    I fear our young college students are being brainwashed by their professors and a big part of his voters are college students.

    It is becoming clear the type of CHANGE Obama has planned for America and he plans to move us away from our heritage in favor of new and recent legal & Illegal immigrants who do not have the roots nor the wisdom to understand what they loved about America and why they came here is slowly being lost.As is our constitution,our freedoms,our privacy and our quality of life.
    "A Government big enough to give you everything you want,is strong enough to take everything you have"* Thomas Jefferson

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    What an irony

    Tonight I just finished watching (I Think) a PBS documentary about the rise of Adolf Hitler. I was just floored how much Hitler advocating "Change". Also he was telling the people that he knew their pain (Where have I heard that before?) because he was one of them. That he would help them out on their needs. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to say that Obama will be Hitler, but it is the views are are intune.


    Also what I notice the fanatism of the people treating him like a Rock Star. I remember one image of a woman and her eyes were like hypnotized. Now we are seeing the same here, not even Ronald Reagan didn't get such adolatry. Yes many loved Ronny, but not to where they cried, faint, when they touch him. With Obama what freaks me out is the idolization of Obama. Where I read articles of people who have seen him in rally and how they describe him. They make it sound like he is the Second Coming of the Messiah.

    As for the Che Flag, this should not be a surprise for anyone. Obama has views that line with Socialists aka Communist and if a voter loves his views then they too are lining themselves with those very same views.
    I fear this man, there is something I do not trust about him. Not because he is Black, but simply there are unanswered questions about his background and he has alot of Non Votes on his record. For someone who does not have a record vote has the cajones to run for President of the US.

    I rather have Hiliary at least we can deal with her later, but Obama will be an Obamanation to our country.

    As for Che again, all I can say is that there are so many young voters who don't know who he is. All they know that he is cool because he is on some shirts. I have a co-worker who likes to photoshop and he is about 28. He imposed his face on Che. When my supervisor asked him who he was, he responded "O that is Che he is a Socialist Libertian"

    OMG My mouth was ready to drop. You can't be Liberterian and Socialist at the same time. They are totally the opposite. That lis like saying your 9 months pregnant and still a virgin. It is sad, but our education has been infiltrated with socialist teachers.

    All I can say "May God Help America"

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    The coming huge void in the 2008 election.....

    While it will be hugely important to actively support those congressional candidates in our districts who are staunch anti-amnesty and strong border security, against birth-right citizenship and strongly for removing the welfare-state incentives to come here, will the freedom movement not insist on a credible 3rd Party ticket to at least give voice to the looming perils facing this country?

    Can you imagine the huge void that will exist as McBama or McClinton parade around the country promising to be all things to all people and hints of amnesty as backdrop?

    We have got to have our own dynamic duo hot on their heels speaking the truth about the coming demise and what we must do about it.

    We must diplomatically lean on people like Ron Paul (he can run for both his house seat and prez) and Gary E Johnson (former 2-term NM Governor) and Andrew Napolitano (judge, foxnews analyst, author of Nation of Sheeple), some combination thereof, to run 3rd Party.

    Sure, the chances of winning may be small, but it is still possible. But what may be overlooked though and even more important, is a fantastic chance to educate citizens and win converts to our side on a mass scale, as to real solutions to our nation's problems.

    Now, I personally advance the vehicle of the Libertarian Party, because they would accept any of the above mentioned candidates and importantly, the LP already has near 50-state ballot access already! Hello? You realize how costly it was for Perot or Nader to gain access in elections past. The money spent towards ballot access 2008 could be better spent on hard-hitting tv and radio advertising campaigns.

    Personally, I dont see how we can sit out the Presidential campaign. I think this country is close to shutting down all our rights and freedoms. We're just one incident, contrived or otherwise, away from national lockdown. Will we let the republic go down without a fight? Or will we let evil triumph?

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    Lone Star, I am with YOU.

    It could be done through a third party, as we can see how McCain is weak and not coming near anywhere securing enough votes to win.

    Money could be raised, and as you say, put to use through media ads and mass mailings, not necessarily media time on network TV.

    Difficult yes -- impossible? No.

    SOMEHOW, the Will of the People still needs to be heard, and needs to get out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOamNASTY
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    We need to remember that the President cant run his agenda without the Backing of the House and the Senate. If we want to squelch out any of the sorry choices we have for President lets put a Congress before Him or Her that wont give him the Laws that they need to further their agenda's. Lets put a Congress before them that will force the New President to Listen to US.
    Next we as the Parents and Grandparents of the future of this Country need to mold the Future Generations to Know what true Patriotism means and to hold those Responcible that would degrade said Patriotism to a lower level. We as a nation have become a group of limp wristed feel gooders that dont want to step on any toes exspectially if it means we might offend someone. Even if they need offending. The thought of a Cantidate for the Highest office in the United States having a Cuban Flag hanging in his office and not willing to wear the United States Flag on his Lapel infuriates me to no end. What enfuriates me even more is the fact that He is the Front runner in the Democratic Primary. What really needs to happen is that we need to go to a majority vote system instead of the Electoral College. Of coarse that would mean our Politicians would have to do our bidding and we could'nt have that could we?
    We need to understand that a majority of the reason we are in the shape we are is because WE UNITED STATES CITIZENS have been asleep at the wheel for the last 30 to 50 years and have allowed the system to become what it has. Does this mean we lay down and sleep in the bed we made or does it mean we stand up and be heard. Lets not allow the agendas in Washington to continue. Lets start holding all our Elected Officials responcible for their actions and do that by looking in the mirror at what we call acceptable before we hold them responcible. Next we need to quit worrying about the fact that doing all this may offend someone. Its time to start offending the biggest offenders and that is a vast majority of our Elected Politicians.


    Good post ! Great idea, but how do you wake up the people ? It's their sons and daughters who are giving this ' suspected' traitor all the votes . Along with other Hussain's and Osama's .
    There is a huge number of Baby Boomers in the population of the United States. Follow the Money and who has it? Is it the College Students or is it the Baby Boomers who have the Money? How do people get rich and who provides the money and power to the people who get rich? The war we need to wage is against the people who gain the most from cheap labor in this Country and that is Big Business and the Politicians who do their bidding. If you really want to put a knot in their underwear lets take the fortunes from the most powerful people and re-distribute it to people who would do our bidding. That means we would have re-think the way we do business completely. We would have to look at every individual Business we do business with and be willing to study them before we do business with them. If they are not ethical then we need to be willing to look at other avenues to do our business. There is a Grocery Store where I live that was purchased about 2 years ago and when they re-opened they started flying Mexican Flags in front of the store and I have not stepped in that store since. This is an example of how to fight these kinds of places. Next thing is we as United States Citizens need to understand that it may cause us a little inconvienience to have to go to the next town to do our shopping, but in the end we can win this fight. Is it going to happen overnight? We have gotten in the mess we are in over 30 years and fixing it isn't going to happen overnight. If we stick together and that is a big IF, we can win this fight. We really need to do our homework on the seats that are coming up for re-election in the Senate and the House. Lets make these Politicians understand that if they want to do the bidding of people from other Countries then they will be short lived terms. When we start showing the Politicians that we wont let them stay in their offices if they dont listen to us, they will start to listen. If there is one thing I do know is that a politician will follow what ever path that leads him to re-election so we need to cut a new path for them. One of the biggest powers here on this planet is the Oil Industry. Lets start looking for ways to take some of that power from them. Lets put away all our toys and big 3/4 ton trucks that we drive to the grocery store and start buying 30 to 50 MPG hybrids. Its all about steering ourselves in a different direction. Where does that kind of thinking start, with us and we need to teach it to our kids and grandkids. Again its not going to change overnight but it will change in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chosen
    The big point here is that folks who support Che Guevara are so enthralled by B. Hussein Obama that they are willing to volunteer. There must be something to B. Hussein Obama's message that resonates with communists and people who support terrorists. That is a B. Hussein Obama campaign office and people who support B. Hussein Obama also support Che.

    This is a great book that dispells all of the Che Myths, THE CHE GUEVARA MYTH
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    http://www.independent.org/store/book_d ... ?bookID=61
    http://www.amazon.com/Guevara-Liberty-I ... 1598130056
    I agree, it's not that Obama permitted these flags. No doubt he is smart enough to be angry they were there. The issue is, Marxists are behind getting Obama elected. Obviously they believe they can manipulate Obama if he is elected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azwreath

    Does anyone know what the flag to the right of the American flag has on it?

    After Che, who knws what that one could be
    I appears to be that silly Peace flag from the 60's. Marxists also use this flag to push their agenda. I'll be the people of Cuba and Venezuela don't understand how peaceful the Marxist movement has been in their country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darlene
    This must be in a few of his offices, because they seem to be two different places. Look at the walls and the flag.
    That's the same thought I had. The second woman is working in a garage. The first woman isn't.
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    Seems to me that the woman with the big boobs and big glasses in the photos are one and the same.

    Looks like a propagandistic frontal assault. (Before I am called a Obama supporter,.......I would not vote for this man if you held a gun to my head.)

    Propaganda wherever it comes from does no one any good. Look at what happened to Ron Paul and the Nazi donations to his campaign.(?) The MSM effectively marginalized this man before he even got started. The only difference with these pictures against Obama is the timing. Time to slow down the Obama campaign. Let Obama open his mouth and talk about some issues, he would derail his own campaign with no help needed.

    This type of propaganda might be used in the future to pass laws censoring the internet. ( a most freightning means of media to elitist.) Is it time to reach acrossed the aisles to the sensible Dems. Denounce this type of folly, at the same time ask those with some sense to put the idiots of the left in their place by denouncing characters like Che and their far left ideals? Afterall divide and conquer is not a tactic best suited for anyone other than those who "pull the strings.

    If The talking heads of radio help flame this situation, perhaps one would be best served to hold reservations over those who would help to perpetuate propaganda. Obama should be asked to denounce Che and his ilks. Perhaps this was the intention all along? Will he? If not he is no man of charchter but merely a politician. That would be a far cry from "change" as we all know Washington is plumb full of politicians.

    I was listening to Mike Medved the other day when a "Ron Paul"supporter(? yea, right!) called Mike, Mike asked the caller if he would denounce the Nazis, the caller fell silent then hemmed and hawed. Mike then threw in the whole lot of Paul supporters and basically called them all dangerous extremist! (my words not Mikes, his intent was to that extreme.) Only Hollywood could have written a better script. No doubt a planted caller. Atleast the callers (plants) on Rush's show are indeed better scripted.

    If a lie is said loud enough and long enough, it becomes fact. Who said that? Goebbels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyAmerica


    Does anyone have the picture from Iowa showing Obama with his hands by his sides while Hillary Clinton and Senator Harkin's wife have their hands over their hearts--apparently taken during the Pledge of Allegiance?
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    That picture wasn't taken during the Pledge of Allegiance. It was taken while a woman sang the national anthem, and Obama's posture was technically correct. When the flag is not present, the hand goes over the heart. But when the flag is present, one is supposed to only stand respectfully.
    "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -- John Quincy Adams

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