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    I think Duncan Hunter's "attack Iran" policy would hurt this country a lot more in the long run than it is would hurt fanatical Islam. Fighting a two-front war is a bad idea, but a three-front war is absolute folly.
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    See, this is why I get excited and I apologize for becoming irate. - more wars is NEVER a good thing, especially when the road to that war is suspect. Meaning, there is "always" some boogeyman that we are given to wage war, increase the war machine, line elites pockets with cash.

    Its communism, the cold war, terrorism, extremism, Islofascists etc.....
    It is always something.

    Here are some useful links to find where Ron Paul sits. Please keep in mind that Ron Paul's appeal is NOT just "get out of unconstitutional wars", but his money policies too!

    Ron Paul on Foreign Affairs:
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    Here is Ron Paul schooling Bernanke today:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAwvlDJgJbM

    here are the traders reaction
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    (Click on the video labeled "bernanke on demand" It is in the bottom right hand sidebar)

    Ron Paul on monetary policy:
    http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/topic.php?id=9


    For me, We are much less safe since 9/11 than ever. Even the 911 report showed that one of the main reasons for the attacks on 9/11 are because we are in the middleeast interferring with their governments, manipulating their policies. Greenspan said "we are there for Oil". So the whole idea of "the evil islofascists" is a trumped of "scare card" to validate our forceful and interventionistic involvement in the middle east.

    I was a FULL ON neo-con, kill all of them, a few months ago.I switched when I really started researching these things. The open borders, the NAU, the "terror" wars, who is getting rich off of all of this....

    * I also mentioned this previously. The Reason there was no declaration of war is because the intent was never to WIN this war. The idea was to invade and nation build and set up a oil faucet. Do we all realize that this is now going on longer than WWII?

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    I can't see how a war in/with Iran would not be good.

    We are stretched thin, we are in debt for this war. They keep saying we are making progress over there - and I will admit I never knew the objective - so I couldn't say.

    A war with Iran would be a different proposition than Iraq. Iran hasn't been under economic sanctions for a decade, after a devastating war. They will be ready for us.
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    Also, here is some proof on who owns who.

    http://nesara.org/court_summaries/lewis ... states.htm

    If the FED is "private" then who's interests does it serve? Our economy is tanking and their is talk of the NAU and the Amero! Who will issue this new money? Who will issue the currency in Iraq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apropos
    I think Duncan Hunter's "attack Iran" policy would hurt this country a lot more in the long run than it is would hurt fanatical Islam. Fighting a two-front war is a bad idea, but a three-front war is absolute folly.

    You may be right on this . It's hard to know what to think anymore for me .

    But even so,he will have to way over a year to begin . I think if it happens it will before then .

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    For someone that follows Ron Paul closer than I - did this event really happen - and was Paul a guest speaker?

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    I think Duncan Hunter's "attack Iran" policy would hurt this country a lot more than it would hurt fanatical Islam.
    Can you please direct me to this "attack Iran" policy you're referring to?

    Do you think it wise to allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW
    For someone that follows Ron Paul closer than I - did this event really happen - and was Paul a guest speaker?


    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Pr ... 9ECEB455D5

    Like I said, I don't know if this flyer is factual or not. I happened across it while surfing the web.
    NO. Absolute rubbish. That website is "special interests" owned site.
    You only would have to do about 5 minutes of research on this to know it was false.

    NO, its not true. Its satire. DO some research and see who owns that site. You will find some correlations. In other words, its the same special interests that want us to fund foreign involvement and keep the terror war going.

    You see, the special interests are getting worried. Now the attacks begin. Its the same process.

    Here is a poignent quote that Ron Paul supporters are fond of and use often: And it is very true.


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    then they laugh at you,
    then they fight you,
    then you win.
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    They have already ignore Ron Paul, then the media its puppets tried to label him as crazy, insane, a nutcase etc.. now the attacks are happening. I am sure by the time this comes to a head, Ron Paul will be a racist, anti-america, islam loving baby killer...... but in the end, the American Public will have had enough..... Then we win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrightNail
    See, this is why I get excited and I apologize for becoming irate. - more wars is NEVER a good thing, especially when the road to that war is suspect. Meaning, there is "always" some boogeyman that we are given to wage war, increase the war machine, line elites pockets with cash.

    Its communism, the cold war, terrorism, extremism, Islofascists etc.....
    It is always something.

    Here are some useful links to find where Ron Paul sits. Please keep in mind that Ron Paul's appeal is NOT just "get out of unconstitutional wars", but his money policies too!

    Ron Paul on Foreign Affairs:
    http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/topic.php?id=10

    Here is Ron Paul schooling Bernanke today:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAwvlDJgJbM

    here are the traders reaction
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/21688194#
    (Click on the video labeled "bernanke on demand" It is in the bottom right hand sidebar)

    Ron Paul on monetary policy:
    http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/topic.php?id=9


    For me, We are much less safe since 9/11 than ever. Even the 911 report showed that one of the main reasons for the attacks on 9/11 are because we are in the middleeast interferring with their governments, manipulating their policies. Greenspan said "we are there for Oil". So the whole idea of "the evil islofascists" is a trumped of "scare card" to validate our forceful and interventionistic involvement in the middle east.

    I was a FULL ON neo-con, kill all of them, a few months ago.I switched when I really started researching these things. The open borders, the NAU, the "terror" wars, who is getting rich off of all of this....

    * I also mentioned this previously. The Reason there was no declaration of war is because the intent was never to WIN this war. The idea was to invade and nation build and set up a oil faucet. Do we all realize that this is now going on longer than WWII?


    We all become irate under these pressures .

    I will try to keep an open mind . And it's true that Chaney was in Afganisthan about 10 years before the iraq invasion . I think he was there wheeling and dealing with Bin Laden about a pipeline from Tur-something-stan to the gulf . Bin Laden didn't like his offer . it has been awhile since I read this so memory is not good .

    But the facts are that the oil we all fight over would still be underground if not for the billions we put into that hellhole and our technology to mine it . It wasn't Russia or China who did this . And it sure wasn't the poor arb prices .

    The arabs didn't build our finacial strenth ,we did .

    Since we have had some questionable leaders in past 50 years we have been on a downhill slope . I do think kenney was about to tell all when he was murdered, but thats just a thought taken from conspiracy truths and half truths . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by nntrixie
    I can't see how a war in/with Iran would not be good.

    We are stretched thin, we are in debt for this war. They keep saying we are making progress over there - and I will admit I never knew the objective - so I couldn't say.

    A war with Iran would be a different proposition than Iraq. Iran hasn't been under economic sanctions for a decade, after a devastating war. They will be ready for us.

    To attack or not to attack ,that is the question ! Seems either way we are doomed . Armadidajad has openly stated on several occasions that he wants to innialate not just Israel but the west too . China and Russia are fighting to take our place as the world superpower .

    Water the world over is becoming scairce . Turning salt water into fresh is exspensive and will have to be transported inland .

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