Thread: Large Scale Protests?

Dixie, whats next,,,,,,,,,,,, vise grips?

lol Keep em guessing Dixie!

Swatchick,

Before I’m labeled as a racist and kicked off this board; I’m simply possing the question of “some” Hispanic officers/agents and their resolve.

I understand that we're undermanned but what concerns me too is the answer to the question of how many of these police officers, border agents, and ICE agents are actually working for U.S. interests? In other words; there are a disproportionate number of Hispanic officers/agents (especially in and around the border towns) and I tend to wonder where their loyalties lie.

Perhaps it’s not so much a matter of being undermanned as it is the man-power we currently have?

Greetings Dixie and thanks for the welcome!

I’ll probably get myself banned from this board before too long. I tend to be pretty direct with the issue of illegal aliens and have been labeled a racist piglette on many an occasion. What I think is real racism is a group of people who’ve enter my country illegally and then insist I press 1 to speak my country’s language and then have a “special” press 2 button exclusively for them. The fact that this is even happing in the U.S. continues to boggle my mind and outrage me.

I’ve lived in many other countries (we’re military) and only in the United States do you find press 2 to speak an exclusive language catered solely to illegal aliens. I’m seriously worried that the continuation of catering to illegal aliens (and we all know for a fact that is expressly what the press 2 feature is for) will be the demise of what was once uniquely the American way of life. I don’t want to live in a socialist [edit] hole (Mexico), if I did, I’d move there or back to Europe. Yeah okay, I sound like an alarmist and so do feel free to call me paranoid. I am!

I just moved back to the United States in Oct. after many years living abroad and so the newness of being smacked with all of this has gotten my panties in a wad. Yes, I’m a whacked out woman on a mission and I refuse to allow my country to be turned into one giant Mexican barrio.

Okay, I’m done ranting…for now.

Having been an observer of this situation for a good number of years now, I can understand why people WANT to get to Washington and tell the misguided congressmen and senators, as well as the misguided president that we need something done and we need it done pronto.

Last spring, in my city thousands of people protested on behalf of the illegals and, of course, many of the people doing the protesting in this city were illegals themselves since they were bussed in from far and wide. Our congressman in this area may well be one of those politicians with dozens of illegal cousins in this country today. He definitely votes against anything and everything that will stop the flow or deport those already here!

Even though the media tried to cover up the mayhem, the sea of Mexican and communist flags, the crimes that took place as a sideshow of the few days of protest, even though the media tried to make the four or five anti-illegal protesters there look like they were troublemakers, the only thing the illegals achieved when they threw their tantrum was to make themselves look bad. Shortly after those nationwide protests where thousands of people who don't even belong in this country jammed up streets, thousands of Americans realized that this problem is truly a problem and more of them jumped on the band wagon to try to put a stop to illegal immigration. Even the people who paid the illegals' way to the rallies and offered them refreshment, transportation and encouragement realized they'd shot themselves in the foot by staging the protests.

I've been to several anti-illegal rallies and conferences in the past couple years. I've heard people bend the truth and tell out and out lies along with the bitter truth about what is happening to this country as a result of the growing number of illegal aliens here today. Many times, all those protests, rallies and public forums generated were sympathy for the illegal aliens in the eyes of the press.

Take for example, Tom Tancredo's sweep through the southwest followed around by a bunch of college kids in quest of the DREAM Act. The college kids got the press time and Tom Tancredo was painted as a racist who just wanted to pick on these poor illegal aliens who are going to school on our tax dollars or coming to take the "jobs Americans don't want!"

So, you tell me: what would the US citizens stand to gain if they get out there en masse and protest? I'm not so sure it wouldn't turn the tide back toward the illegals. And I can tell you from where I am sitting on this border that much progress has been made in spite of our congressman and our state senator who think it is OK for millions of illegals to march right across the border every year.

Five years ago, you wouldn't have even heard the term "illegal alien" mentioned on the news. It was as if they were all here legally and there is no distinction between criminals. Three years ago, the news wouldn't have dared to mention that the schools are full of illegal kids and there isn't a damn thing we can do about it because the Federal gov't says we have to let them go to school. The day they stuck the additional tax on homeowners to keep open a hospital in this city that was going broke from the number of illegals skipping out on their bills because the Federal Gov't says they have to be allowed treatment, nobody so much as hinted at the reason in the media. Now even the mayor of this city acknowledges the fact that 25% of the patients are illegal aliens who don't pay their bills!

I call that progress. It is coming an inch at a time but it is still progress. And even though the crybabies on the border still cry every time one of theirs gets busted, more and more of them are getting busted because law enforcement is stepping out of line more and more to arrest the people they were told not to arrest.

It’s easy to get really discouraged or really pissed when trying to make changes. I’ve spent the last month trying to find a bank to deposit my money (what little I have) that does not cater to illegal aliens. I cannot find one; not one. The same goes for my internet, cable, phone services. Sure I can live without these services but who wants to live without these conveniences? What ends up happening is I’m enabling these illegal aliens by doing business with these companies; because unless I want to go without these services, I’ve no choice. Rather the Catch 22.

I think many Americans are complacent because this issue [they think] hasn’t affected them or they simply don’t know what to do or they figure someone else will take care of it.

Is it akin to when the power goes out most people don’t call the electric company to report the outage because they figure, someone else has already called and taken care of it. That, and change means making sacrifices. Who the hell wants to be making those sacrifices if nothing comes of it?

Here is my answer to the question regarding law enforcement and sympathy. I would personally say that the large majority of the people do their job and don't pick sides. Many children or grandchildren of Cuban immigrants can't stand all the political stuff the parents brought over here and they feel that if they want to do something, do it over there. They don't like hearing them whine about things going on over there as they know it won't accomplish anything. Most of them speak Spanish but only in their own homes or when a Spanish speaking person is required. They have assimilated. Many of them would be like African American officers who treat their own the same if not harsher than others.
Then you have a small percentage of those who have sympathy and may be a little more lenient if they have any discretion in the matter. These people are also not always their own. I have heard some officers say that they won't pull over illegals for minor traffic offenses as they feel that they are only here to make a better life for themselves and their family.
An example would be that some officers won't pull over a car that they feel is driven by an illegal for a light bulb being burnt out. I personally don't agree with that as it is discrimination against others such as single moms who can't afford to have someone replace it for them right away.

There are some people who are corrupt and do get caught doing illegal things to help their own people. I have read immigration employees getting caught for doing illegal things to help out their own people.

The only thing that really worries me is the number of Cubans that keep making land in Florida. There are articles in the paper about the Coast Guard catching them at sea once in a while but they still manage to come over.

MaliceAlice Wrote:

I’ll probably get myself banned from this board before too long. I tend to be pretty direct with the issue of illegal aliens and have been labeled a racist piglette on many an occasion.

Alice, many things can be reworded to prove a point, and in some cases
can be more direct. At times, talking "Possitive" with a "negative" meaning can be more effective. It`s something that most members of this board catch on to very easily just by reading others comments. So be careful what you read.
I would`nt worry about it. just don`t raise your voice, that prohibited here.

Mkfarnam,

Thanks for the info and I’ve made a note ‘not to yell’, even though I’m a female and it’s innately a characteristic of my species. Heh