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    I suspect it would not be touched by mainstream media. There are tons of lawsuits presently occuring against this government and you won't find them in the mainstream. Having said that I recently heard a statement that mainstream media readership is down 60% so maybe it would be found by those who could use the information in the alternate media.

    I also think that a good attorney would search criminal records and contact the people who might have an interest in the class action. I know I've gotten notified on a few of them based upon I guess sales receipts.
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    I just posted this on "Illegal Immigration Protests" forum. Manymore to come, If someone would like to edit or reword any of this, please do.
    Subject: Class Action suit against US GOV, for allowing crimes by illegals, in the plans
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    We are asking for your suggestions and opinions, no matter how small.

    A Class Action law suit against the US Government is in the planning stage. This suit is for the family members of muder victims that were killed by Illegals immigrants. Actually we would only have to play a very small role. One thing we can do is use the most cruel and cold blooded crime (DUI death, Rape,"Chid Molestation") committed by an illegal immigrant that already has a list of the same crimes on report. If we can get a suit against the US Government for allowing this criminal to remain in the United States illegally without the use of laws in place, win or lose, other victims will come forward on thier own.
    We have to start somewhere, and we need all of the help and expertise we can get.




    Well finally it is starting. This email came. Please pass it along and publish on sites which focus on the wrongful deaths which have occured as a result of the open borders. I had read from another email that the count is over 29,000 that does not include those who survived.

    Quote:
    Original Message -----
    From: STOP SPP
    Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 12:50 PM
    Subject: SUE THE FEDS FOR THE INVASION!


    SUE THE FEDS FOR THE INVASION!

    On the O'Reilly Factor, Bill featured Sandra Miller (and her
    attorney, Shawn Cohen)whose 28yr old Marine vet son, along
    w/two other Americans, were murdered by Mexican illegal alien,
    Senor Padilla, a previously deported perp w/a long rap sheet.

    Mrs. Miller and her atty. are SUING Homeland Insecurity/Fed.
    Government for $100,000,000 for allowing this to happen.
    This is the first known suit of this kind.

    The IDEA: to get dozens/hundreds of other family members of
    other murder victims nationwide to JOIN this suit in a
    massive/nationwide CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against the Feds
    for dereliction of duty. Since our treasonous government does not care about our safety, then maybe by suing them for $$$ BILLIONS they will get our attention.

    Imagine a huge, nationwide, massive class action suit against the
    Feds for failing to secure our borders. All ideas are welcome as to
    how to begin to bring all this together to start to build momentum
    for this worthy cause.

    Please send all ideas, etc., to Melanie at mgmSMG@aol.com (whose
    beautiful daughter Amy was murdered by another Mexican illegal just a
    few months ago in San Diego.

    This could be BIG! --
    STOP SPP is a non-partisan group of citizens concerned over ...
    the creation of the NORTH AMERICAN UNION.
    This will dismantle USA as we know it today.
    Website: STOPSPP.ORG
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    Comments are coming in at http://www.illegalimmigrantprotest.com/
    Topic: "Class Action suit against US GOV, for allowing crimes by illegals, in the plans"


    Here is some recorded evidence. We just need the files


    Illegal Alien Crimes Against U.S. Citizens
    http://www.davickservices.com/Line_In_Sand7.htmIllegal

    Not all illegal aliens are crossing into the United States to find work. Law enforcement officials indicate that there are individuals coming across the border who are forced to leave their home countries because of their criminal activity. These dangerous criminals are fleeing the law in other countries and seeking refuge in the United States. For instance, it is known that many of the operatives of cartels in Mexico actually live in the United States. Information received by several law enforcement agencies indicates these criminals are living in our communities and that they come to the U.S. to escape the possibility of apprehension in Mexico.


    The Violent Crimes Institute conducted a 12 month in-depth study of illegal immigrants who committed sex crimes and murders for the time period of January 1999 through April 2006. This study makes it clear that the U.S. faces a dangerous threat from sexual predators that cross the U.S. borders illegally.

    The Institute analyzed 1,500 cases in depth, including serial rapes, serial murders, sexual homicides, and child molestation committed by illegal immigrants. Police reports, public records, interviews with police, and media accounts were all included. Offenders were located in thirty-six states, with the most of the offenders were located in States with the highest numbers of illegal immigrants. California was ranked first, followed by Texas, Arizona, New Jersey, New York, and Florida.

    Based on an estimated illegal immigrant population of 12,000,000 and the fact that young males make up more of this population than the general U.S. population, the Institute concluded that sex offenders in the illegal immigrant group make up a higher percentage. ICE reports and public records show sex offenders comprising 2% of illegals apprehended. Based on this 2% figure, which is conservative, the Institute estimates that there are approximately 240,000 illegal immigrant sex offenders in the United States.

    The study concluded, when applied to ongoing illegal immigration at the borders, these estimates translate to 93 sex offenders and twelve serial sexual offenders coming across U.S. borders illegally per day. The 1,500 offenders in this study had a total of 5,999 victims. Each sex offender averaged four victims. This puts the estimate for victimization numbers around 960,000 for the 88 months examined in this study.

    The violence of illegal aliens is not confined to border communities. Residents and law enforcement in the interior cities are also vulnerable to criminals crossing the border. The following are examples of crimes committed by illegal aliens:

    In testimony before the House Committee on Homeland Security’s Subcommittee
    on Investigations, Carrie Ruiz, a Houston resident, described how her 17 year old
    daughter was murdered in October 1999 by an illegal immigrant from Venezuela
    who escaped prosecution by returning to his home country. Ruiz’s daughter was
    stabbed more than thirty-nine times after she helped authorities identify a gang
    member.
    On February 10, 2005, a high-ranking member of the Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), was apprehended in Brooks County, Texas. He had been previously deported at least four times. This MS-13 gang member is believed to have been responsible for the killing of twenty-eight persons, including six children, and the wounding of fourteen others, in a bus explosion in his native country. Information was received in late April of this year that he was on his way back into the United States, or that he was already in the country, and was threatening to assassinate any officer that attempted to apprehend him.
    On March 22, 2006, Texas State Trooper Steven Stone was shot six times at point
    blank range by two illegal aliens during a routine traffic stop. Ramon Ramos and
    Francisco Saucedo were charged with fourteen counts of aggravated assault on a
    public servant. An investigation showed that Ramos had been criminally
    deported from the United States on two different occasions on Federal weapons
    and drug charges. Ramos had been living illegally in the United States for
    approximately three to four years prior to the March 22 shooting.
    On the night of the shooting, Ramos and Saucedo were in possession of body armor, a rifle modified for automatic fire, a handgun modified for automatic fire, 96 two or more handguns, numerous knives, drugs and alcohol.

    On June 27, 2006, a teenage girl from Mexia, Texas was forced off the road by two illegal aliens and kidnapped. She was sexually assaulted by both men. The two illegals tried unsuccessfully to break her neck and strangle her. They then dragged her out of the car and put her into a ditch where they began kicking, beating, and stabbing her with broken glass. She sustained massive injuries to her head, face and upper body. After the suspects left her for dead, she was able to walk about one-half mile to the nearest house and ask for help. The suspects are identified as Noel Darwin Hernandez and Javier Guzman Martinez. An immigration hold has been placed on each suspect.
    On September 21, 2006, in Houston, Texas an illegal immigrant from Mexico, Juan Leonardo Quintero, was charged in with capital murder in the shooting death of Houston Police Officer Rodney Johnson. Quintero had been deported in the past. His record shows in 1998 he was charged with indecency with a child.
    On September 29, 2006, one week after Officer Johnson was killed by an illegal alien, Houston Mayor Bill White announced a change in the way Houston Police officers process suspected illegal immigrants. The Houston police will fingerprint suspected illegal immigrants detained on minor violations, and those with identification police believe to be fraudulent. That information will then be provided to Federal authorities.
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    Immigration Attorney Information
    http://immigration.lawyers.com/
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    Immigration Attorney Information
    http://immigration.lawyers.com/


    Public Record Search
    http://www.davickservices.com/
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    I checked the other illegal Immigration site. I am glad to see others willing to pass along the information. MK you deserve a hug but they don't have one those little emoticons.

    I checked the link for the longer article because I wanted to forward that to the critter that is suppose to represent my state. The link did not open to the article. Can you ck that out please. Those statistics send powerful messages. Our reps should be aware of them and probably are but the fact that the People are now aware of them may put a little fire under their behinds to start doing their job.
    "Liberty CANNOT be preserved without general knowledge among people" John Adams (August 1765)

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    This is wonderful news ,an answer to prayer!

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    xanadu,
    Everything I posted was also sent to the email address you posted
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    Proof that our Government has full knowlege of the consequense the citizens are facing.
    This is a house meeting that took place in 1999



    http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/ju ... 494_0f.htm
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    Did you send this link to Melisa Mk? I think her lawyer can make good use of it. I just started reading it. The fact it was 1999 is damning in and of itself that the borders are still open. Her daughter was just murdered.
    "Liberty CANNOT be preserved without general knowledge among people" John Adams (August 1765)

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