Thread: Obama has lots of people who like him..But who likes McCain?

I must say I'm disgusted with all of you nose-holders.

I find it disgusting also. I WILL not hold my nose because I am voting for NIETHER of these two fools.

Originally Posted by invadersgetout

I must say I'm disgusted with all of you nose-holders.

I am more disgusted by people who are so naive and un-informed as to vote for Obama, or stay home, or throw their vote away on a candiate who cannot win.

Get into the real world - only 2 candidates have a chance to become President -- sitting and doing nothing is childish and petulant.

inadversgetout, here's the thing for a lot of people. Obama is THE most dangerous man to threaten this country in many of our lifetimes and maybe since the 1860's (yes, I was a student of the Civil War era political landscape). I don't know how old you are but if you don't realize this I can only hope that you sit up and really look hard at what Obama stands for. Don't let blind hatred of McCain via Bush cloud your better judgement. I don't like McCain but I fear Obama. If he didn't represent such a frightening glimpse of the future I would most certainly strongly consider an independent candidate. I voted for Perot way back when because, yes, I felt like sending a message to the government. I knew that he didn't stand a chance to win. However, at that time there weren't any Democratic or Republican candidates that threatened the future of this country like Obama does. It sickens me that this is where we find ourselves but that's the reality. If we all don't plant our feet in this reality then we may end up with someone who is FAR worse than the other candidate that we didn't like.

Originally Posted by invadersgetout

I totally cannot believe how many of you are actually going to vote for McVain despite all he has done to hurt you, us and our movement, not to mention our nation and our culture, which he apparently cares nothing for.

this kind of lemming-like behavior, voting for a "republican" who has repeatedly stabbed you in the back, insulted you, avoided the issues, lied about us, lied about his Amnesty scheme, etc, etc, WILL ONLY GET YOU MORE OF THE SAME.

SO ALL OF YOU WHO ACTUALLY WOULD TURN YOUR BACKS ON IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND VOTE FOR MCVAIN DESERVE EXACTLY WHAT YOU WILL GET, MORE OF THE SAME. the problem is, you are inflicting that on me and others as well, not just on your own blind selves.

the point now is not who you like better btwn McVain and Obama. I despise everything that Obama stands for. the point now is delivering a very hard message to the RINOs that we won't take this treatment any longer. we won't vote for you just because you might not be a communist like your "opponent."

I refuse to vote for any human who stabbed me in the back. and that is what McVain has done over and over to us. your vote for that weasel gives him complete absolution for all the horrible things he's done to this nation and its' citizens already, meaning that the republican open borders sham will never change, it will always be say one thing, do another, lie, obfuscate, and open them borders because we know the sheep will vote R regardless of how we treat them.

I must say I'm disgusted with all of you nose-holders.

Originally Posted by judyweller

Originally Posted by invadersgetout

I must say I'm disgusted with all of you nose-holders.

I am more disgusted by people who are so naive and un-informed as to vote for Obama, or stay home, or throw their vote away on a candiate who cannot win.

Get into the real world - only 2 candidates have a chance to become President -- sitting and doing nothing is childish and petulant.

Stop telling us we're naive and uninformed. I dare say this group is probably the most informed immigration group in the world, and also far more informed than the average voter in America on all the issues that are important today.

Ironically, the fact that they are so well informed is exactly why they will NOT vote for McCain even though they detest Obama. Most of these people are far more awake than they have ever been in their political lives.

Still acting like it's a high school football game? Cheerleading for McCain is not doing this country any favors. It is voters like you that keep idiots like McCain and Obama in power. You should be ashamed to admit that you're not actually voting for a candidate. You're "settling" on voting against one, and that, my dear, is what is truly childish and petulant.

I'd rather vote for a winner and lose than vote for some loser to win.

Originally Posted by invadersgetout

I totally cannot believe how many of you are actually going to vote for McVain despite all he has done to hurt you, us and our movement, not to mention our nation and our culture, which he apparently cares nothing for.

I must say I'm disgusted with all of you nose-holders.

I don't think there are that many of them. It's just Dolly and Jonathon...Oh wait - that was the old pair. This month it is Judy and Texas-born.

Probably paid McCain staff members. He has 166 people paid to work the 'net.

AngelaTC, I still luv ya baby. No need to attack me or anyone else. However, I am beholden to no candidate. I am watching Bob Barr now to see if I can glimpse what he is all about. I'm holding out hope that I can find a candidate other than the two parties offer that I can feel good about and can stand a chance of winning. I don't feel good about Ron Paul. IMO, he's a kook and would end up as a wacked out version of Jimmy Carter. Anyway, so far I like what I hear from Bob Barr...we'll see..

Originally Posted by AngelaTC

Originally Posted by invadersgetout

I totally cannot believe how many of you are actually going to vote for McVain despite all he has done to hurt you, us and our movement, not to mention our nation and our culture, which he apparently cares nothing for.

I must say I'm disgusted with all of you nose-holders.

I don't think there are that many of them. It's just Dolly and Jonathon...Oh wait - that was the old pair. This month it is Judy and Texas-born.

Probably paid McCain staff members. He has 166 people paid to work the 'net.

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

Anyway, so far I like what I hear from Bob Barr...we'll see..

Barr is pro-amnesty, just like Obama and McCain.

If my choices are amnesty, or amnesty, I will certainly vote for one of those guys that "have no chance." I will vote for someone who actually has a stand on immigration that is not in-line with the Chamber of Commerce and la Raza. The RNC got away with OBL Bush twice, resulting in a massive invasion, the likes of which no nation has ever seen. They banked on the idea that they could do it again by nominating McCain, hoping he would look appealing next to the Dem candidate. I will do my part in proving them wrong, and ending the dishonest racket that is the Republican nomination process. Otherwise, we are doomed to Republican OBL candidates forever. The gamble of nominating OBLs for the Republican ticket will be proven a wise one indeed, and our own voices and power will be rendered useless and expendable.

Originally Posted by AngelaTC

Originally Posted by judyweller

Originally Posted by invadersgetout

I must say I'm disgusted with all of you nose-holders.

I am more disgusted by people who are so naive and un-informed as to vote for Obama, or stay home, or throw their vote away on a candiate who cannot win.

Get into the real world - only 2 candidates have a chance to become President -- sitting and doing nothing is childish and petulant.

Stop telling us we're naive and uninformed. I dare say this group is probably the most informed immigration group in the world, and also far more informed than the average voter in America on all the issues that are important today.

Ironically, the fact that they are so well informed is exactly why they will NOT vote for McCain even though they detest Obama. Most of these people are far more awake than they have ever been in their political lives.

You are naive about the political system. What is the point of protest votes for a candidate who has no chance. What a waste. You had your chance to influence the outcome during the primary season -- you failed.

You are "wide awake" on a single issue and do effective work at local levels and before Congress. But that is not the same thing as a national election. The same tactics don't work all that well. Your chance to select a candidate you liked was during the primary. You failed. You need to imrove your tactics on the national level or you will get nowhere. Accept the fact that during a primary the best candidate may not always win but that does not change the choices in an election which you seem to think it does. Your vote for Ron Paul or whoeever means NOTHING - it INFLUENCES nothing and NOBODY- it is a lost vote -- a "hanging chad" that will be tossed out.

Now you can choose between destroying your country by allowing Obama to win, or voting for McCain who will not be beholden to Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi and is a patriotic person as opposed to a candidate who truly hates America as Obama does.

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

Anyway, so far I like what I hear from Bob Barr...we'll see..

Barr is pro-amnesty, just like Obama and McCain.

If my choices are amnesty, or amnesty, I will certainly vote for one of those guys that "have no chance." I will vote for someone who actually has a stand on immigration that is not in-line with the Chamber of Commerce and la Raza. The RNC got away with OBL Bush twice, resulting in a massive invasion, the likes of which no nation has ever seen. They banked on the idea that they could do it again by nominating McCain, hoping he would look appealing next to the Dem candidate. I will do my part in proving them wrong, and ending the dishonest racket that is the Republican nomination process. Otherwise, we are doomed to Republican OBL candidates forever. The gamble of nominating OBLs for the Republican ticket will be proven a wise one indeed, and our own voices and power will be rendered useless and expendable.

You truly understand nothing about the political process. There was a primary - The time to make your voices heard and your influence felt was in the primary - YOU FAILED. There were other candidates that should have beaten McCain but they ran such dismal campaigns that they lost.

It is not always the best candidate that wins but the one who makes the least mistakes in the course of the primary campaign season.

You are only doomed to lousy candidates if you fail to organize at the state and local level -- nationwide -- for the candidate you want. That means statewide organizations in all 50 states-- and devoting time and money for that candidate. Just posting on a blog does NOTHING -- it is boots on the ground that count in national campaigns.

Phone calls, letters, E-MAILS are great to influence congress or local state legilatures -- they have NO IMPACT IN NATIONAL CAMPAIGNS -- esp. primary campaigns.

Originally Posted by judyweller

You truly understand nothing about the political process. There was a primary - The time to make your voices heard and your influence felt was in the primary - YOU FAILED. There were other candidates that should have beaten McCain but they ran such dismal campaigns that they lost.

It is not always the best candidate that wins but the one who makes the least mistakes in the course of the primary campaign season.

You are only doomed to lousy candidates if you fail to organize at the state and local level -- nationwide -- for the candidate you want. That means statewide organizations in all 50 states-- and devoting time and money for that candidate. Just posting on a blog does NOTHING -- it is boots on the ground that count in national campaigns.

Phone calls, letters, E-MAILS are great to influence congress or local state legilatures -- they have NO IMPACT IN NATIONAL CAMPAIGNS -- esp. primary campaigns.

Yet you still fail to acknowledge my main point: That a vote for McCain is a vote for the continuance of the OBL domination of the Republican primary process. It is, in effect, a vote for an OBL candidate for 2012, 2016, and so on. It is duplicity in the greatest hoodwink in American history: the garnering of the patriotic electorate into the camp of the globalists indefinately. The message will be clear: all signals say "YES" for a selected globalist of the Chamber of Commerce's choosing for future Republican Primaries. it worked with McCain, it worked twice with Bush, it will continue to work so long as we play the dupe to the Republican globalists.

I know that much about how it works......