Thread: To people who got upset about Tancredo's endorsement

Martha wrote:

If you decide to sit this one out, people like you are what the vulture democrats are hoping for.

Come on now, don't be so judgemental, Martha.

I don't think that anyone is being "judgemental". However, if Tom Tancredo says that Romney is the best man to support, I am going to support him. And, I do not feel that I should be "attacked" because I am doing so. You all can support who you want----but I am supporting Romney.

Originally Posted by Martha

Originally Posted by Bren4824

Originally Posted by SenorKylNoMas

Tancredo's endorsement of Romney does deflect somewhat from the Huckabee/Gilchrist farce. Also, the fact that Huckabee doesn't really have a theology degree has been revealed in NH this week. Guess he didn't think that anyone would question it?

Do you have the link for this article......I want to post it on a few other sites.

I found this on Huckabee's theology degree, or lack of it, hope this helps you.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=59222

Thanks for the link Martha. I wanted to post this under some articles in Desmoines.

A supposed "religious" person who even LIES that he has a degree in theology and was caught stealing money and furniture in Arkansas.

This is one of my FAVORITE articles to post about Huckabee:


Huckster Haunted by Arkansas Ghosts-----

Howie Carr, Boston Herald----December 16, 2007------

"This barefoot boy with cheek is lucky he came up in the hookworm capital of America, because even here in Boston, where political corruption is seldom prosecuted anymore, he would have been in deep doo-doo a long time ago.---After studying a 34-page printout of Huckabee’s record, thoughtfully provided by a Concerned Citizen, my nomination for most innovative Huckabee money-grubbing scam is the “wedding registryâ€

If you decide to sit this one out, people like you are what the vulture democrats are hoping for. In case you forgot, first and foremost it's red against blue.

No, I'm not.

And no, it isn't first and foremost red agaisnt blue. There is no difference between the two parties - we have to wake up and realize that.

Just look at the detrimental things that have happened in this country in the last 40/50 years. The trade, beginning with Nixon's visit to China, the little wars around the globe, the stretching of our military, outsourcing, more and more power grabs by the federal government, the destruction of our education system, illegal immigration, the Patriot Act, and on and on and on.

These things have marched right along without a hitch through Rep or Dem Presidents, Rep or Dem controlled congress, split congress, Congress and Pres same party and not. It has made no difference - the agenda moved along.

Their rhetoric is different, their agenda is not.

So, unless we get someone not 'annointed' by the powers that be, it won't matter what party - the vote will be for the same agenda.

Political parties has this country in a stranglehold, and unless and until we break that - we will get the same results.

They are probably going to get their way, buy I won't give them my blessing.

Okay, I think what you are saying is "if I can't have it my way, I'm not playing" Fine, then let the rest of us decide for you. No problem. But I don't want to hear you bitching later on about the choices the rest of us made for you.

Martha

No, that's not what I am saying - did you read the post?

What I am saying - if we get any of the 'top tier', meaning anyone now besides Hunter and Paul, we are going to 'have it their way', regardless of which side of the party they claim to be.

To even think there is some difference between the agenda of the two sides of our one party system is just not facing the facts.

Now that's what the vultures want - and that's what they are getting. They have the American people lining up behind these political parties and for most people, it is voting party line no matter who.

They will decide who will be the candidates, that way they know that about half the voters will vote for one party and about half the voters will vote for the other party - and they own both.

Tell me, regarding big issues, how has anything been different in the last 3 administrations?

Now I'm not getting nasty with you because you want to vote and unless we have a real upset - you will be voting for a 'member' or a lackey of whatever group is pushing this agenda.

If we get a republican president and congress, we have a shot at stopping illegals and amnesty. If the opposite is true.....we have ZERO chance. That's enough for me to stay with the Republicans, no matter who it is!

You also have zero chance of stopping huge tax increases and "carbon usuage fees" attached to everything you do and buy. They have already banned the incandescent lightbulb. Next they will be coming after your thermostat, and your WHOLE life! I'm not very fond of this nation being turned into a totally socialist marxist country.

The U.S. is the heartbeat of the world. Our economy keeps the world going. It's in the interest of bankers and the "money people" to see to it that we remain capable consumers.

Military bases are vital. The reason bases are allowed in those countries is our protection of them. Saudi Arabia is deathly afraid of Iran as well as a lot of other ME nations. If we pulled or bases out, what's to stop Russia or even China from going in and setting up bases and promising protection or money??? Somebody is going to go there if we pull out, you can bet on that. If I were a geo-political military analyst, I would opine more. There are no doubt bases that could be closed or scaled down, but to arbitrarily close them all down we be beyond reason.

As far as the "mutual destruction" reasoning. When the other side thinks nothing of suicide bombings and actually believes Armeggedon needs to be instigated in order for the 12th Iman to return, it gives me pause. When you have the "Jim Jones" mentality and a nuclear bomb, what happens??? What good is a ballistic missle without nukes?....it's nothing more than a big rocket. Iran just tested one. They also burn off massive amounts of natural gas from oil wells but they NEED nuclear power???? A totally unnecessary energy source with huge problems of disposal, etc. Just things to think about.

The President is just one branch of govt. If things are to really be changed they have to be changed at the Congressional level. It's much more vital to have the correct people in Congress. They are actually the ones doing the damage or not....they can override the Prez, so the real power lies with them and judges. Of course the Prez, has the power in appointing judges.

To say that Paul or whomever gets it, this will or won't change is far fetched. Without a proper Congress you are doomed either way.

Well said Gofer, super hero. Thank you for your input, very well thought out.
Along with everyone else here, I am very worried about the path our country is on. I hope desperately that we can turn that around.

Thanks to Pelosi and Dingy Harry, the people are more involved and aware of the incompetence of the Democratic lead. I think we have a very real chance of taking back the power.
I believe we Californians have had enough of the Democrats selling us out.

We have had a Rep Pres and congress - what did it get us? Rampant illegal immigration - benefits fo illegals - kowtowing to Mexico - President calling us bigots if we object to illegals - more one sided trade deals, outsourcing, etc.

The so called Dem would do not better -

We don't need Rep or Dem - what we need are Americans who care about this country.

Military bases are vital. The reason bases are allowed in those countries is our protection of them. Saudi Arabia is deathly afraid of Iran as well as a lot of other ME nations. If we pulled or bases out, what's to stop Russia or even China from going in and setting up bases and promising protection or money??? Somebody is going to go there if we pull out, you can bet on that. If I were a geo-political military analyst, I would opine more. There are no doubt bases that could be closed or scaled down, but to arbitrarily close them all down we be beyond reason.

Saudia Arabia has more money than God - they can operate their own bases and protect themselves. Why do we have to do it?

That goes for many of those countries. The economy of many of those countries are as good - or better than ours, they can arrange for their own protection. There are weapons suppliers all over the world that would be happy to sell them what they need. There are construction companies that would be happy to build those bases.

We are worried about China? Yet we are directly responsible for their rise in power and their economy? We make one sided trade deals with China, we share technology with them, and then we say we have to maintain bases all over the world because China might take over other countries? That's makes no sense.

Our economy is in trouble - we need to look to that. Unless we change, China could bring us to our knees in a short time. We can't even clothe ourselves, much of our food is coming from China, our computers, etc.

So why maintain bases to protect against a country that the trade part of our foreign policy is making stronger everyday? All the while weakening this country.

Whether we want to admit it, there are a lot of other consumers in the world. They may not be as wasteful as we, but people do live very nice lifestyles all around this planet. Yes, they like us, we consume a lot, but they aren't going to prop us up when our economy tanks because everything is going out - including jobs.

The global warming, silliness is just that. I think it is just another scam a hoax. Personally, I believe it is out front to keep us from actually thinking about the problems with our enviroment and natural resources. Here in Texas, our air is bad in many places, water is becoming scarce, over half the rivers in TExas can't be used for fishing or swimming according to a report recently. So if they can keep us focused on some ethereal global warming, no one is thinking about actually doing anything about the real danger facing us - in the next 10 years - not 1K.

We have to find people who will focus on America - not Saudia Arabia, not Germany, not Japan - but protecting and building up America.