Thread: Propaganda used to throw Americans out of work

Originally Posted by miguelina

I remember about 22 or so years ago, my husband's employer moved the plant from PA to TN because labor was cheap in TN at that time.

This announcement was made right after employees voted to join a union. Coincidence? I think not.

Wasn't long before TN workers were demanding better wages. Plant moved on down to mexico. They had a real hard time finding workers in mexico, because the pay was low and no benefits were given. They'd rather work in the US so, where they can get welfare for their jackpot babies (just have to keep on making babies to get more $$$). Of course, the moms are all "single" moms (get more $$ that way).

NO ONE wants to work for nothing, no matter who they are or where they come from. Americans shouldn't have to be forced into subsidizing the cheap labor either. THAT'S what these companies fail to comprehend.

The company ended up closing up the mexico plant and moving to china. The Chinese workers aren't stupid, they can read the writing on the wall. They are starting to demand better wages and benefits too. Plus no one wants to buy anything made in china and that's hurting them big time.

So my question is, where are these companies going to move to next, in their neverending quest for slave labor??

Vietnam

Originally Posted by Populist

Good pts miguelina. The cheap labor thirst is never quenched, but soon there will be no well. What then?

Get ready for more of this propaganda. The ethnic and cheap labor lobbies are trying to sell us the notion that mass amnesty is actually good for our economy and 10 million unemployed Americans. I sincerely doubt that even the sheeple will buy this ...

Notice that Chertoff changed immigration laws so that Indian students could hold down University research positions. This was no coincidence. Before, these coveted jobs were competed for by American students as a way onto the career ladder. Bush came along and shoveled as many Indian student employees into these jobs so it would look like Indians were smarter because more of them could be "trusted" with these jobs than American students could. The same thing is gradually happening to NASA. It is made to look like Americans are not "smart enough" to work in academia or government agencies like NASA when in reality it is just corrupt manipulation and favoritism toward immigrants from India, no doubt fueled by "sweet" deals that leak alot of American technology to India so that again it can look India "invented" Rocket science and nuclear energy, just like they are taking "credit" for creating the computer industry.

I feel like with George Bush, we had the finest President India and China has ever had...

Hi Texas2Step,

Originally Posted by Texas2step

What does this mean?! What are these "mystery jobs" that no U.S. citizen is "able to do"?

In Jan 2005, USAA insurance carried out a mass firing of over 200 info tech employees, and replaced them 1:1 with Hindu replacements from India on H-1B visas.

During a TV broadcast, the USAA CIO argued that USAA had to have computer skills that do not exist in the US.

But each US employee had to train his Hindu replacement how to perform these skills that do not exist in the US prior to being fired.

USAA flies the American flag at their facility. They should, instead, fly this flag:

This is a great deal of very discouraging information! I read that even Milton Friedman, who believed so much in free markets, called H-1B Visas a "welfare program for corporations" and recommended that the program be discontinued entirely. However, Barbara Jordan also recommended that our laws of immigration and border security be strictly enforced, but our government didn't listen to her, either.

I believe Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Sen. Lugar are at least trying to commence a Senate investigation into abuses within the H-1B Visas program. Thus, any factual accounts anyone has of real abuses within the program, especially, I would think, if these can be attested to by several people independently, might be sent with good effect to Sen. Grassley. Evidently he and Sen. Lugar are really upset about the effects H-1B has had on the U.S. technical workforce.

Originally Posted by Texas2step

Evidently he and Sen. Lugar are really upset about the effects H-1B has had on the U.S. technical workforce.

I believe Bill Gates made one of his trips to Washington right around the time of this report. What he did was report that laying Americans off of their jobs and giving them to H-1Bs actually helps create new jobs!

If you could follow the bizarre, twisted (and, ultimately, mentally ill) logic that went on in Bill Gates' brain, it pretty much stated that because Indians were "super-intelligent", almost like a race of highly advanced aliens from outer space, it therefore follows that giving them an American's job will allow this highly advanced Indian to become so productive that the end result is an engine of productivity that sucks in Americans into a gigantic "job creation" vortex because, formerly, Americans were too "dumb and stupid" to engineer this type of job creation. Our Congress actually praises Bill Gates for this "Saturday Morning Cartoon" style logic. It is also, sadly, the same logic that infects every "anti-American" politician from George Bush to Arnold Schwartzenneger to Baraque Obama to Hillary Clinton...

Americans are getting to the point they do not believe anything the media or the politicians say. We are not ALL the fools they make us out to be.

Originally Posted by millere

http://immigrationvoice.org/

The Employment based green card system is completely broken due to excessive delays and backlogs in petitions of nearly half a million highly skilled workers who are certified by US Government to be doing a job that no US citizen is willing, qualified or able to do.


By stagnating career growth and suffocating the creativity of the most innovative and technical minds of the world, America is creating a class of future Americans, who would see no career growth for 6-12 years and making under-achievers of these individuals.


It would result in a reverse brain drain where the talent and human capital flows from developed west to the burgeoning Asian economies.

(Brain drain because we Americans are dumb. If they are so smart and we are so dumb why are they doing everything they can to leave the countries that gave birth to these "smart people"?; think it over and you will realize it doesn't much sense... But what do I know, I am dumb.)

Well the guy who wrote this trys hard to make Americans look pretty dumb. In the first place there is no such thing as a green card any longer, especially an employment based green card. They are called H-1B visas and permanent residence cards. Wonder why the autor wasn't bright enough to know that?

Second, why is it unemployment here in the USA is an 26 year low? Is it because Americans just aren't willing to work? Do you really think American's are so stupid that we believe this?

More "best and brightest" nonsense about H1-Bs. See this from the CIS:

H-1Bs: Still Not the Best and the Brightest

May 2008

Discussion and Conclusions

The lobbyists for the tech industry and the American Immigration Lawyers Association know that crying educational doom-and-gloom sells. Even though it was people born and educated in the United States who were primarily responsible for developing the computer industry, and even though all major East Asian governments have lamented their educational systems' stifling of creativity, the lobbyists have convinced Congress that the industry needs foreign workers from Asia in order to innovate.

The data show otherwise. Most foreign tech workers, particularly those from Asia, are in fact of only average talent. Moreover, they are hired for low-level jobs of limited responsibility, not positions that generate innovation. This is true both overall and in the key tech occupations, and most importantly, in the firms most stridently demanding that Congress admit more foreign workers.

Note again that the analyses presented here confirm and provide much sharper quantitative insight into previous work showing that the H-1Bs are of just average talent. It has been shown for instance that foreign students in the U.S. tend to be concentrated in the less-selective universities, and that they receive a lower percentage of research awards relative to their numbers in the student population. In the workforce, the foreign nationals in the U.S. participate in teams applying for patents at the same percentage as do the U.S. citizens, and so on.

To be sure, the author is a strong supporter of facilitating the immigration of the world's best and brightest. He has acted on that belief, by championing the hiring of extraordinarily talented researchers, mostly from India and China, into his department faculty. But as seen here, very few of the foreign workers are of that caliber.

Expansion of the guest worker programs - both H-1B visas and green cards - is unwarranted

Full report here:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2008/back508.html

Just great they will end up on every street corner in America begging.

Or what ever they have to do to get your money

Originally Posted by jimpasz

Just great they will end up on every street corner in America begging.

Or what ever they have to do to get your money

Alot of them may be coming to the US with fake passports and multiple identities so that they can do things like apply for multiple car loans, credit cards, etc.

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