Thread: Propaganda used to throw Americans out of work

Originally Posted by millere

google: indians caught with fake passports

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The last information (of which there are 3 pages) on an investigation into H-1B and L Visas which I can find on Sen. Grassley's website is dated in Nov. of 2007. I recall reading that, when he initially made inquiries into reported possible corruption at the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), they refused to provide any of the information which his office requested. Sen. Grassley said he felt like he "was being treated a second-class citizen."

Much of the material specifically on H-1B and L Visas from his websiite is pdf:

http://grassley.senate.gov/searchresult ... e=grassley

no US citizen is willing, qualified or able to do.

No US citizen is "qualified" but some guy from a third world country is!!! Yea right! We have 300 million people in this country! In addition, people from all over the world come to this country to attend our universities and colleges because they are some of the finest, and yet your telling me that "no" US citizen is qualified to do a certain job!

this country put a man on the moon, but yet we have to outsource from India( or some other third world disaster) because "no" US citizen is qualified to do your job!

That's a lie!

Originally Posted by NoBueno

this country put a man on the moon, but yet we have to outsource from India( or some other third world disaster) because "no" US citizen is qualified to do your job!

That's a lie!

Don't be surprised if someday India tries to take credit for the moon landings...

Maybe all those people who have lost their jobs as a result of the H1 B program and the other programs could file a class action law suit against the Federal Government? They were damaged. They lost jobs, benefits, pensions, etc. How is it possible that the government can do all these things without anyone trying to stop them? Where's the law in this country? I am beginning to think the H1 B program isn't even constitutional.

Originally Posted by Justthatguy

I am beginning to think the H1 B program isn't even constitutional.

It is making me think that India is starting to "pull the strings" of the American government and any attempt to complain will be looked at as "old fashioned" Americans attempting to complain about the "frost coming early this year"...

I am terrified that in a few years the slave labor that these free-wheeling corporations will be looking for will be the good old USA, sweeping up those Americans that have been out of work for years and are willing to work for 21 cents an hour just to feed the family once a week. This seems to be holding the public over a financial barrel. And just wait until China or India decide to get rid of their overpopulation that is willing to work for 20 cents an hour. We are up a crick without a paddle.

Originally Posted by millere

It is making me think that India is starting to "pull the strings" of the American government and any attempt to complain will be looked at as "old fashioned" Americans attempting to complain about the "frost coming early this year"...

Hi Millere,
You might recall that they use the insidious NASSCOM and Hill and Knowlton to lobby the Congress. Their website is also used to lobby congress to increase their numbers. What we don't know yet is the money trail and how much is being funneled into politicians pockets through these lobby organizations.

To answer your question, imho, NASSCOM controls the congress on everything immigration and related issues. NASSCOM dollars.

Lessee, Millare, what the hell am I getting at?

Keywords for search engines: BRIBES, GRAFT, CORRUPTION, PAYOLA

Originally Posted by h1b, the Best and the Brightest

r u accusing the congress of bribery?

Well, let's see... yeah, as a matter of fact, I am!

Coto

Originally Posted by Coto

Originally Posted by millere

Lessee, Millare, what the hell am I getting at?

Keywords for search engines: BRIBES, GRAFT, CORRUPTION, PAYOLA

Originally Posted by h1b, the Best and the Brightest

r u accusing the congress of bribery?

Well, let's see... yeah, as a matter of fact, I am!

Coto

If I go to google and search "BRIBES H-1B" I get the following stories:


http://programmersguild.blogspot.com/20 ... ustry.html

On the similar lines, there is this company called Corpus (www.corpus.com) based in Dallas, TX, which does something similar, but breaks laws on many levels. They were caught bribing senior executives at Verizon for getting contracts and filling them with unqualified H1B programmers from India.


http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/28/bri ... ting-help/

Recently in a senate committee hearing regarding h-1b visas, bill gates kind’ve threatened the senators with pulling his (microsoft’s) business out of the states and relocate to other countries. He said there weren’t enough talented developers in the states. He says that with a straight face; he is shameful, how low can you go. He even opened a compound up in Canada.


http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/17568.asp

A step by step process how Al-Queda can bring suicide bombers in US through the loopholes of H1B temporary worker visa program.


http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/22837

To top off the hypocrisy of all this is the involvement of the special interest groups such as the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA). This group is part of an annual $100 Million Dollar industry that specializes in processing corporate immigration documents. In addition, seven of the major H-1B users are not even US corporations. They are East Indian Outsourcing Firms. These organizations bring in Indian workers, train them and then transfer the workers, jobs and the technology back to India. This supports a major loss of US industry infrastructure.


http://www.edn.com/blog/1750000175/post/950034695.html

I am not surprised that fraud is rampant in the H1-B program. I am surprised that the INS was even capable of detecting this fraud. For once they did something right considering their normal operating efficiency both before and after 911. I suspect that they have only scratched the tip of the ice berg concerning this fraud issue.


http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/sts/?p=48

The H1-B visa program is about Cheap Slave Labor.As such, it is a subsidy to the corporations who hire thesepeople and pay them half. Because of the large amounts of money involved, there isa considerable budget for lobbying and bribes.


http://www.freedomcandidate.com/APM-New ... rogram.htm

There is no real shortage of American information technology workers. It's just that the large high-tech international companies want to turn these hard earned information technology skills into as cheap a labor commodity as possible at the American workers' expense. On March 12th Bill Gates appeared before Congress calling for an increase in H-1B visas. Two days later, without soliciting comments from any representatives of American IT workers, Congress introduced two bills that would double or triple the H-1B base cap. Why weren't the representatives of American IT workers allowed to be heard? Could the average of $25 million dollars a year that members of congress receive in bribes (I mean campaign contributions) from the Computer Equipment and Services Industry, have something to do with this? Here's some interesting campaign contribution statistics compiled by the Center for Responsible Politics at www.opensecrets.org that shows why congress may be so eager to support the requests of the Computer Equipment and Services Industry over the American IT workers.

Here's how much the high-tech industries have contributed to federal campaigns:

* 2000 - $38.9 million
* 2002 - $26.7 million
* 2004 - $29.0 million
* 2006 - $18.4 million
* 2008 - $15.5 million (partial)


http://blogs.eweek.com/careers/content0 ... aud_1.html

What efforts do US employers make to verify the educational and professional credentials of H1B seekers from third world countries? There are no well-known accreditation systems of universities in those countries to figure out ranking of universities there. Many colleges there are notorious for giving degrees and other professional certificates by accepting bribes. Also, many of them not only tolerate but even encourage plagiarism during tests. Are these fraudsters the 'experts' on whom US economy depends so desperately?

Absolutely fascinating millere. Gates and Microsoft are on my dirtbag list. Every time I have a problem with a Microsoft product, I talk to India with no option of talking to an American, like ATT gives me.
Gates, boy genius, may be good at math, but not at sociology. If one destroys the support base of American consumers who are also IT workers in search of cheap labor, there are other consumers that will not fill that gap.
Amazing this guy threatened to take Microsoft into Canada, according to Lou Dobbs. All I can say is do it. At least I can have help (perhaps) that speaks a form of English I can understand.