Thread: Ron Pauls Website: On Immigration

Some of you might like the Ron Paul forums.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forum.php

I wouldn't want you to vote against your hearts.

I believe the root of the problem with illegal immigration is the ability we have given others to print up what ever it takes to get their way.

Please forgive me for repeating this post;

When I started looking into where the money was coming from to buy off the politicians and subvert the immigration laws of the world, I came across what may be the root of many of our problems. Fiat Money.

No matter how much real money people can put together to build their countries the way they want there are those that can print up what ever it takes to get their way.

Maybe this will help make the danger of fiat money clear.

Imagine you and me are setting across from each other. We create enough money to represent all of the world's wealth. Each one of us has one SUPER Dollar in front of him.

You own half of everything and so do I.

I'm the government though. I get bribed into creating a Central Bank.

You're not doing what I want you to be doing so I print up myself eight more SUPER Dollars to manipulate you with.

All of a sudden your SUPER Dollar only represents one tenth of the wealth of the world!

That isn't the only thing though. You need to get busy and get to work because YOU'VE BEEN STIFFED with the bill for the money I PRINTED UP to get YOU TO DO what I WANTED.

That to me represents what has been happening to the economy, and us, and why so many of our occupations just can't keep up with the fake money presses.

We are going to have to regain control of our government before we can regain control of our currency. We are going to have to regain control of our currency before we can regain control of our country.


Ron Paul is the only candidate that understands we need to regain control of our currency. He has proposed returning the value of our currency to stability by tying its value to other commodities such as gold. I'm sure he understands their isn't enough gold or silver to have a dollars worth in a vault representing each dollar. It does need to be tied down in such a way as it is hard to manipulate its value or counterfeit like is now being done with abandon. We could have an honest dollar now if the supply varied with the increase and decrease of the wealth we have in the system. It has to be taken out of the hands of crooks. A dollar should be something you can bank on.

Actually I listened to Ron Paul for several years and though he does say things that concern me about illegal immigration, he also has many positive points on the topic. Plus you have the word of a man that speaks his truth. He has been making the same speeches for decades. They don't change as the wind blows.

I didn't like everything about The Honorable Ronald Reagan but he got more of the things I believed in done than I figure I could have got done myself in his position. I have the same faith in Ron Paul.

Ron Paul!

Originally Posted by topsecret10

I want to believe that he Is the same Ron Paul that I liked so much In 2008 because Of his stance against the FED and against Illegal Immigration,but It looks like his views have changed on the Immigration front enough to keep me away this time. TS

Don't worry. He's the same Paul. He has not changed his views, he has merely clarified them. I was saying this repeatedly in 2007-2008. I said that he is OK with illegals as long as they did not get welfare, repeatedly. It was clear as day to me way back in 07. Very few listened to me, but now he has clearly spelled out what he was insinuating the entire time (but was apparantly lost on many in our movement). How is it that I was calling out Paul in 2007-08, and now he has "changed" into precisely what I said he was the entire time? Am I a mind reader? A future teller? No. I just listened to him, and called a spade a spade. I can dig up old posts where I said this, if you like.

Oh, and the Gold Standard sux.

Ron Paul is no Ronald Regan.

Ron Paul is no Republican he is a libertiran.

A libertiran will never be elected Pres. of the U.S.A..

When I came home from Viet Nam and was spit on at L.A.X. the ones there that night look to me just like these nut case Ron Paul kooks I see outside Rebublican events here in Texas.

Facts Do Count.

http://cis.org/no-shortage-of-skilled-workers

You,, Americans are the new Apache, if you do not fight all immigration you will loose your land just as we Apache did.

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

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Oh, and the Gold Standard sux.

The one thing about gold standard was it made it hard to counterfeit the money supply.

Going off could have worked if they would have controlled inflation to something like 3%. And I'm thinking 3% period.

We should have done something about the looting a long time ago.

In fact if we are going to print up money out of thin air and then loan it out, the interest should be going to those that are taking the risk. Evey United States citizen should have an account they could have the interest income credited to. Why is it the central banks are collecting interest on our fake money anyway?



The little bumps during early times of war were when we tried introducing fiat money into the system. Many wouldn't accept it at the time. There is a law that you have to now. Anyway when they nearly doubled the supply it took twice as much to buy anything. Later they withdrew it out of the system and the value in the currency was restored to something you could bank on. I appears they are at war with all of us now.


P.S. I suspect the way the government is able to print up what ever it takes to get its way is much worse than first appears.

Our central bank is one of many around the world. From what I've been seeing with the subversion of the immigration laws world wide is their control stretches beyond borders. We no longer seem to control our government or our war department along with the borders. It seems to me the central banks are financing a new world order. Everyone is riding in the back seat as they squeeze us out of our livelihoods and life long beliefs.

Still they spend.

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

Originally Posted by topsecret10

I want to believe that he Is the same Ron Paul that I liked so much In 2008 because Of his stance against the FED and against Illegal Immigration,but It looks like his views have changed on the Immigration front enough to keep me away this time. TS

Don't worry. He's the same Paul. He has not changed his views, he has merely clarified them. I was saying this repeatedly in 2007-2008. I said that he is OK with illegals as long as they did not get welfare, repeatedly. It was clear as day to me way back in 07. Very few listened to me, but now he has clearly spelled out what he was insinuating the entire time (but was apparantly lost on many in our movement). How is it that I was calling out Paul in 2007-08, and now he has "changed" into precisely what I said he was the entire time? Am I a mind reader? A future teller? No. I just listened to him, and called a spade a spade. I can dig up old posts where I said this, if you like.

Oh, and the Gold Standard sux.

Here is quite a bit of information all in one place that was put together showing how Ron Paul has stood on some of the issues starting some time ago. I don't know anything about Gregory Hilton, but the facts are there in the post to check out for one's self. Hilton finishes with Tom Tandredo's article.

( By the way, Tom is starting a new PAC
Former Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo is Forming Anti-Illegal Immigration PAC
Published August 17, 2011
Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politi ... z1VQIYkIdz )

http://diplomatdc.wordpress.com/2011/03 ... migration/

Ron Paul is For Amnesty and Has a Terrible Record on Illegal Immigration

[size=117]Posted on March 6, 2011
by Gregory Hilton

Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) was first elected in 1976 but has never authored any legislation to stop illegal immigration. This has occurred despite the fact he represents Texas which has the nation’s longest border with Mexico.

He is against the E-Verify program to stop employers from hiring illegal aliens. In fact, he is against all laws prohibiting employers from hiring illegal aliens. He opposes Arizona’s get tough policies and the deportation of people who are here illegally. If a state wants open borders that is fine with him. NumbersUSA gives him an “Fâ€

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Reconquest Aztlan Separatist Speech by Ron Gochez

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What bothers you more.......the citizens who will suffer TODAY from illegal immigration and everything it brings with it, or getting someone elected who stands up for illegal alien workers and calls the Americans who have a problem with illegal aliens racist and our workers lazy?

[size=150][b].....When he ran for president in 1988 as a Libertarian, Paul advocated the official policy of his party. He said, “As in our country’s first 150 years, there shouldn’t be any immigration policy at all. We should welcome everyone who wants to come here and work.â€

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http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-1257492.html#1257492

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[i][b] When he ran for president in 1988 as a Libertarian, Paul advocated the official policy of his party. He said, “As in our country’s first 150 years, there shouldn’t be any immigration policy at all. We should welcome everyone who wants to come here and work.â€