Thread: So let me get this straight about you all

Originally Posted by flashman

Again, I'm speaking hypothetically.

IF, and I mean, IF, Hillary were to show the credibility and you could see that her records showed that she was indeed tough on illegals in New York City, YOU, a hardcore Conservative would vote for her no matter how liberal she was on everything else just because she was the only would that would be tough on illegal immigration.

I can only speak for myself, but this is NOT the sole issue. I dare say this may not be my #1 issue. 1A for sure..

Originally Posted by flashman

Immigration seems to be the #1 priority for most of you on this board so much that you would be willing to vote for ANYONE, and I mean anyone, including Hillary Clinton if they were every to tell you up front that, "If you vote for me I'll close the border and deport all illegal aliens. PERIOD." I'm speaking hypothetically here. Suppose Hillary's past records showed that she was tough on illegals in NYC and that she ordered the deportation of lots of them. You would vote for her no matter how liberal she was on everything else.

You would ignore the fact that Hillary, or any Democrat for that matter, is a liberal, that she supports abortion, that she was the wife of Clinton, that you simply despise her, that she wants free Medicare for all, etc and would be willing to vote for her if she were the only one out of all the candidates (Dem and Rep) to satisfy your immigration wants huh? Basically sacrifice all your other Conservative beliefs just so that you could once and for all get rid of all these people. That's how far you're all willing to go it seems. You're that passionate about this issue.

Basically, my question is this. If Hillary were, and I'm speaking hypothetically obviously, the only candidate that could actually get the job done in terms of illegal immigration and satisfy you, you would not hesitate in voting for her. I want to see how much of a priority illegal immigration if for you all that you're willing to vote against your party.

You seem to state that if you are against illegal aliens you are a conservative. That because we are for enforcing our immigration laws we are all hard line conservatives?

Being a conservative and enforcing our immigration laws do not go hand in hand. Look at Mr. Compassionate Conservative Jorge Bush.


That is simply not the case. This is not a liberal or conservative issue. This is about saving our country from an illegal invasion. There are people on this board and around the country who are very liberal, very conservative and everything in between who believe in enforcing current immigration laws and having all illegals go home.

Originally Posted by flashman

Again, I'm speaking hypothetically.

IF, and I mean, IF, Hillary were to show the credibility and you could see that her records showed that she was indeed tough on illegals in New York City, YOU, a hardcore Conservative would vote for her no matter how liberal she was on everything else just because she was the only would that would be tough on illegal immigration.

Hypothetically and in Actuality .. Hillary has never supported the enforcement of our immigrations laws as well as the border. Her real voting record in public services shows where she really stands.

Using Hillary as an example is flawed. It's like saying IF Idi Amin was hypothetically to open a soup kitchen and various free clinics, would you call him a humanitarian. You're barking up the wrong tree man.

Usanevda is right. That's a baited question. To start with, if Hillary was the kind of person to deport all the illegals and secure the border, her stance on everything else would be different too. Unfortunately, most of the candidates are bought and paid for by the corporate elites so, the selection is small.

And, believe it or not, Flashman, we are intelligent enough to look at the whole candidate, not just one issue.

Clinton put the National Guard on the border. Does anyone remember that?
I would not vote for Hillary because of her record on many issues and I don't believe she is qualified.
I believe, given the climate in the country that Hillary might be very anti-illegal.
The ones who post here are aware of the Clinton record..which is not entirely negative..on that one issue

She will lose a LOT (along with the other dems) of votes because of the illegal immigration stance. In a general election debate, that stance is a absolute deal breaker. I don't know how they can possibly get around it...not even a "death bed" repentance would be believed!!

Hillary will NEVER get votes from those who want our immigration laws enforced and oppose amnesty, no matter how much she'd try to change her tune. First and foremost, she's a big panderer to La RAZA. She hired a former President of LA RAZA for her campaign, she just founded an " Illinois Hispanic Advisory Council" for her campaign and believe it or not, EMMA LOZANO (Elvira's "handler" and renowned self-proclaimed Mexican Socialist from Chicago, wife of the store-front "pastor" Slim Coleman of the "church" that harbored illegal alien Elvira) is one of the members of this "advisory" group for Hillary. Hillary has given keynote speeches at La RAZA conventions and has been clearly pandering to that well-known racist, ethno-supremacist group for years. La RAZA is a radical liberal, leftist organization founded by the Ford Foundation, and does the work and bidding of the Mexican government to secure rights for illegal aliens from Mexico. Hillary has supported this radical separatist group for years. This alone shows she's unfit to be President of the United States.

The Pro Illegals vote for Clinton..and during the next year..watch this record come to light...
Clinton signed a tough immigration law in 1996 and intended to enforce it:
“Operation Gatekeeper,â€

flashman said:

I want to see how much of a priority illegal immigration if for you all that you're willing to vote against your party.

This is where you make your first wrong assumption; the people on this site are not all Republicans. We are a diverse group.

Next, I think most of our posters are educated enough that they know where each candidate stands and what they stood for in their recent past.

We also don't deal in the hypothetical; we deal with the real facts.

When you come down to it both parties take their marching orders from the same people.

That's how far you're all willing to go it seems.

Thus the name [b]“AMERICANS for LEGAL IMMIGRATIONâ€