Thread: The Ted Cruz’s Establishment friendly tax plan

Originally Posted by johnwk

Judy,

Section 4, which you previously quoted and have a problem with, is our founder's idea and is found in several of our Constitution's ratification documents. For example see the Ratification of theConstitution by the State of New Hampshire; June 21, 1788

Fourthly That Congress do not lay direct Taxes but when the money arising from Impost, Excise and their other resources are insufficient for the Publick Exigencies; nor then, untill Congress shall have first made a Requisition upon the States, to Assess, Levy, & pay their respective proportions, of such requisitions agreeably to the Census fixed in the said Constitution in such way & manner as the Legislature of the State shall think best and in such Case if any State shall neglect, then Congress may Assess & Levy such States proportion together with the Interest thereon at the rate of six per Cent per Annum from the Time of payment prescribed in such requisition-


Why do you have such a problem with our Constitution's original tax plan which paved the way for America to become the economic marvel of the world? Why do you have such a problem with our founder's original tax plan which also encouraged Congress to follow sound fiscal policies and spend within the limits of imposts, duties and excise taxes to avoid the dreaded apportioned tax?

And why is it that not one of our candidates will discuss the merits of our Constitution's original tax plan when talking tax reform, nor will any of our radio/tv talk show hosts ever discus our Constitution's original tax plan and this includes Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Laura Ingraham, Schnitt, Mark Levin, DennisPrager, Bill O'rielly, Mike Gallagher, Doc Thompson, Lee Rodgers, Neal Boortz,Mike Huckabee, Tammy Bruce, Monica Crowley, Herman Cain. Eric Bolling, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Greg Gutfeld, Dana Perino, Juan Williams, Megyn Kelly, Neil Cavuto, John Stossel etc.,


JWK

John, they never used it. Not once. To my knowledge, the direct tax plan through apportionment, what you call as the "original tax plan" has never been used by the Founders or anyone else. I oppose property taxes, income taxes and value-added taxes. I like sales taxes because they are easy, efficient and voluntary whereas the others are none of the above. So, if there is another type of plan that is voluntary, easy and efficient, I would be delighted to review it. But any plan that allows either the federal government or a state or any other level of government to force taxation through liens, seizures, assessments, valuations or income, I totally oppose. These are the epitome of socialism on its face and communism on the back.

For me, the FairTax is the best plan. It's easy, it's efficient, it's voluntary, it's collected by the states through paid retail businesses, nothing could be more simple, fair or free than that. It even has a rebate program that reimburses everyone who is a US citizen or legal resident the FairTax they would or could pay in FairTax on essentials up to the household consumption allowance. The rate is split after collection to fund general revenue and social security separately so the monies are not commingled and the rates are set separately as well. 14.91% for General Revenue and 8.09% for Social Security and Medicare. It's really a great plan. I've tried for years to find a weakness in it, and so far I can't find one.

Anyway, the tax plans aren't of any interest to me in this election because they're all income tax based and just more same o same o of the same failed income tax. Of the plans, Trump's is as good as any and I think he'll ramp it up to the FaiTax or something similar once he's in office and actually fix the problem, because that's his end game, to fix the problem, and he knows this plan while perhaps a better version than we have now, is still the same o failed income tax system.