Thread: Tom Tancredo email

Cassie, I did not mean to imply that you weren't referring to illegals. I was trying to point out that the more amnesties we give to illegals, the more political power they and their advocacy groups gain to keep the flow coming. It is very unfair to those who respect our laws and come in the right way. Many of us here on this board have relatives who immigrated legally, including me. Some are even legal immigrants themselves. And, of course, illegal is illegal no matter what country they come from.

Originally Posted by BlueJersey

]This is the kind of stuff that would turn people away from your point of view...Do you really think poor illegal immigrants are thinking about azlan and the take over of the southern states??..Give me a break...Those people arent coming here to do anything but to try to feed themselves and their family..This Azlan thing is ridiculous and i wish you good luck if you think the american people are going to buy this garbagge azlan crap.

About the Azlan threat: This is fringe stuff and i cant take seriously anyone that really thinks azlan and the mexico goverment is masterplanning such an invasion.

BlueJersey,

Is your Google broken??? Do you know how to do a search on the internet? Do you think that intelligent people will give credence to your opinion when you demonstrate a distinct inability to perform basic research?

I thought I would add this commentary since the author knows Tom personally.


Run, Tom, run!
Jane Chastain
January 18, 2007

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a ... E_ID=53815

He once received a call from Bush political strategist Karl Rove instructing him "never again to darken the doorstep of the White House." Now, he is laying the groundwork to live there.

Tom Tancredo is not a household word. He doesn't have movie star good looks or a big, fat checkbook; nor has he spent the bulk of his free time as a congressman attending fund-raisers for other GOP candidates so that he can call in his chits – little IOUs for political endorsements.

It's not the "normal" road one travels to reside at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Nevertheless, the Colorado Republican has been the surprise winner of a number of early straw polls. His bumper stickers have been spotted on cars throughout the United States. His book, "In Mortal Danger: The Battle for America's Border Security," is selling well. "Draft Tancredo" committees have been established in several states. There is an independent online store that offers "Tancredo for President" gear, and he has an army of talk-show hosts who are his ardent supporters.


Tom Tancredo is well-known and deeply appreciated by the party's conservative base and he's got charisma that fills a room and literally oozes out the doors and onto the street. It is the kind that comes from deeply rooted convictions that rise up from the soul and excite those around him, not the kind manufactured by Madison Avenue that, after the initial excitement, leaves you with an empty feeling and a bad aftertaste.

Tancredo owns the issue of border security and immigration reform. It was outspokenness on that issue that put him on a collision course with Karl Rove at the White House. Tancredo would build the border fence authorized by the last Congress and go after employers who hire illegal immigrants. He would repeal the laws that give citizenship and benefits to children born on our soil to parents who are in this country illegally. He strongly believes that no one who has broken our immigration laws should ever be put on a "pathway to citizenship."

This week, he took the first step to make good on a promise he made to run for president if no serious candidate took on the issue of real immigration reform. He formed an exploratory committee, Tancredo for a Secure America, to force the issue of immigration into the primary debates and push other candidates into embracing stricter enforcement. His website, TeamTancredo.org, spells out his position on other important issues.

Tancredo is an underdog, not tied into the big money supporters who are addicted to the flow of cheap illegal labor into America. He doesn't have the inconsistency problems that plague front-runners John McCain and Mitt Romney, and he is head and shoulders ahead of the other second-tier candidates.

He has received rating of "A" or better on his voting record from the American Conservative Union, the National Right to Life Committee, the National Rifle Association, Family Research Council, Americans for Better Immigration and the National Federation of Independent Business.

The outspoken leader of the House Immigration Reform caucus has a message that resonates with voters of all political stripes. In fact, some of his most devoted followers are life-long Democrats who are fed up with politicians who give lip service to the issues they care about but are AWOL when it comes time to stand up and be counted. He is one of only a handful of Republicans who voted against both "No Child Left Behind," a federal betrayal of local control of education, and the fiscally irresponsible Medicare prescription drug benefit.

A former history teacher, state legislator and conservative think tank president, he was appointed by Ronald Reagan as the Denver regional representative for the Department of Education. During his tenure at that post, he pared the office staff from 225 down to 60.

I have personally known this man for years – well before he ran for Congress – and I can assure you that, if by some miracle he managed to pull off a David and Goliath style win, the Tom Tancredo you see is the Tom Tancredo you will get: He is a family man with deep spiritual faith, strong moral values and political courage. He is compassionate but committed to the rule of law and the principles of good government set forth by our Founding Fathers. He will not be blown about by political winds.

His is a candidacy that can ignite the grass roots. His fate, however, depends on our willingness to put early money behind our rhetoric.

Jane Chastain is a WorldNetDaily columnist and radio talk-show host.

Originally Posted by wilbrook

Originally Posted by cassie

DLM,

Health care must be provided to any citizen without the threat that insurance companies can raise prices and to make the poor more vulnerable. I believe in a government subsidized health care for all US citizens and legal residents.

If you can show me in the constitution in plain english that the federal government is responsible for providing health care to every citizen, I will happily write you a check for $1000 without complaint. The fact is that our federal government can't even stop illegal immigration, how in the world are they going to provide people with health care? Talk about a competitionless market. Who's going to pay for it? We're borrowing around 500 billion dollars each year with a national deficit of 8.6 trillion. I understand your concerns about health care, but let's be honest, you're asking the government to fix a problem that was created by government in the first place. More regulation means more control. What we need to do is tell the federal government to get the hell out of the way and let the free market bring down the prices with honest competition. Just remember this before you start beating me over the head with a reply, to depend on anyone for anything is a form of control, be careful for what you wish for.

Where do I claim that it's in the Constitution that the government is responsible for public health care ?? I'm just saying what I think, and I think that subsidized health care is needed. If we give free health care to illegals, why can't we give it to our own citizens ?? We're the richest country in the world and we can easily take care ofall our citizens. How much has the Halliburton Iraq war already cost us ?? Over 300 billion ?! This could have been used to spend on health care, but no, the Republicans wanted their war. Republicans means war, if this means I must vote Oopen Border's Hillary, if she wins the primary then I've no other choice.

Of course we can stop illegal immigration, our government is just not willing to do so. We can't stop illegals ? Ask the South Koreans how theystop illegals from the North. Does DMZ rings a bell ?

Tom Tancredo was fighting the illegal alien battle at a time when he was almost alone among Congressmen and he was trying to shout to this country about the ills of illegal immigration and was all but ignored by the msm.

I have been fighting this battle since 1986 and I also have felt alone,ignored,and fighting a losing battle at times.I was sure glad when Tom came along 8 or 10 years ago and put the illegal problem before the public.

For that reason alone I would vote for him,but I think he is exactly right on a lot of issues,including abortion.I know his stand on that issue isn't always popular but a lot of people do think that abortion on demand is morally and ethically wrong.I respect everyone's views and hope you will respect mine.

The Iraq War is another issue that everyone here will never agree on.I know some will never agree with me when I say that I want us to win that war.We're in too deep too lose and the consequences of losing this war will be lasting and diasterous.

The main thing though is to win the war against illegal immigration.If we don't win this war,the loss of the Iraq War,or the Supreme Court ruling against or for abortion will be useless,because we will no longer have a country that cares about the rule of law or about the wishes of it's citizens.

So whether we vote for Tancredo or some other person for President,let us resolve to at least make sure our choice isn't an open borders-amnesty lover.Of course, in my humble opinion,this rules out almost all liberals and Democrats and Most Republicans.

So,put me in the Tom Tancredo column if you haven't guessed where I stand by now!

ChromeDome wrote:

So whether we vote for Tancredo or some other person for President,let us resolve to at least make sure our choice isn't an open borders-amnesty lover.

Absolutely

Originally Posted by cassie

Where do I claim that it's in the Constitution that the government is responsible for public health care ?? I'm just saying what I think, and I think that subsidized health care is needed. If we give free health care to illegals, why can't we give it to our own citizens ??

cassie, You're being scammed by OBL propaganda.

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www ... 05647.html

Income Stable, Poverty Rate Increases, Percentage of Americans
Without Health Insurance Unchanged

Real median household income remained unchanged between 2003 and 2004 at $44,389, according to a report released today by the U.S. Census Bureau. Meanwhile, the nation’s official poverty rate rose from 12.5 percent in 2003 to 12.7 percent in 2004. The percentage of the nation’s population without health insurance coverage remained stable, at 15.7 percent in 2004. The number of people with health insurance increased by 2.0 million to 245.3 million between 2003 and 2004, and the number without such coverage rose by 800,000 to 45.8 million.

Notice that the paragraph title describes the "percentage of Americans"

Next notice the text where it talks of the "nations population" and "the number of people." This census data includes non-citizens and illegal aliens. That's a fact. These are persons that even you don't feel obligated to provide free medical for, but are called Americans for the purpose of pulling wool over us. The numbers of AMERICANS without healthcare is grossly over estimated for political purposes.

I do agree that Mexico needs to do more for their citizens so they wont have to cross to the U.S but i dont agree with this "azlan" non sense that ALIPCA is spewing trying to scare the U.S public into thinking that Mexico is masterplanning to take over the southwest..Those are just scare tactic to get the people to support...they are of the same kind as the scare tactics that Bush used to get us to invade Iraq..He told us how Saddam was going to attack us and everything...Same thing here, "Mexico is invading us, they are killing our childrens, taking our job yada yada.

BlueJersey, others have pretty much spelled out the Aztlan agenda. My biggest concern is the enormous increase in the US population that is already occurring due to immigration, but will be astonomical if amnesty is granted and those here illegally are allowed to stay and then bring in their extended families. Robert Rector of the Heritage foundation projected for the prior Senate amnesty bill 2611 that if ~11 million illegal aliens are given amnesty, that they, their ensuing families, plus the increased legal immigration in this bill would increase the US population by 100 million in 20 years. Given that probably 4 times as many illegal aliens are already here, I think we are looking at nearly doubling the US population within 20 years.

I don't know about you, but I am very concerned about our environment, wildlife, preserving open spaces and the natural beauty of this country and cannot fathom such an overwhelming and devastating number of people. That Congress would intentionally or wantonly do this to Americans is immoral.

Originally Posted by loservillelabor

Originally Posted by cassie

Where do I claim that it's in the Constitution that the government is responsible for public health care ?? I'm just saying what I think, and I think that subsidized health care is needed. If we give free health care to illegals, why can't we give it to our own citizens ??

cassie, You're being scammed by OBL propaganda.

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www ... 05647.html

Income Stable, Poverty Rate Increases, Percentage of Americans
Without Health Insurance Unchanged

Real median household income remained unchanged between 2003 and 2004 at $44,389, according to a report released today by the U.S. Census Bureau. Meanwhile, the nation’s official poverty rate rose from 12.5 percent in 2003 to 12.7 percent in 2004. The percentage of the nation’s population without health insurance coverage remained stable, at 15.7 percent in 2004. The number of people with health insurance increased by 2.0 million to 245.3 million between 2003 and 2004, and the number without such coverage rose by 800,000 to 45.8 million.

Notice that the paragraph title describes the "percentage of Americans"

Next notice the text where it talks of the "nations population" and "the number of people." This census data includes non-citizens and illegal aliens. That's a fact. These are persons that even you don't feel obligated to provide free medical for, but are called Americans for the purpose of pulling wool over us. The numbers of AMERICANS without healthcare is grossly over estimated for political purposes.

May I ask you a question ??? The $44,389 is that per household, for 1 person or when 2 persons work ? It's a lot of money for 1 person. I make just over 20,000 for part time and that's only because of tips too. I can't make $ 44,389 just by myself if I'd work full time.

Originally Posted by ChromeDome

So whether we vote for Tancredo or some other person for President,let us resolve to at least make sure our choice isn't an open borders-amnesty lover.Of course, in my humble opinion,this rules out almost all liberals and Democrats and Most Republicans.

I will vote any candidate that will end the war. I can not vote a person that is strong on illegals but continues the war. I'd vote the person who stops the war, that's my first priority, illegals my second.

Read this website and you'll understand why the war is priotiry number 1:

http://www.antiwar.com/