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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post

    Trump's lying about border-wall construction is so over the top, I'm starting to think he actually believes his own ridiculously untrue claims


    No he doesn't believe his own ridiculously untrue claims. What he knows is that he has a very large amount of supporters who .......

    literally believe that a bucket of dung was a bucket of ice cream if he told them it was.


    By his own words.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    By lying to his supporters, Trump disrespects them.

    When his supporters defend his lies, they also intellectually discredit themselves.


    So very true!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Oh my goodness, I can't believe you're actually attempting to excuse his lies on the border wall away. Do your homework. The truth is there for anyone that's paying attention.
    I think Trump Supporters will just leave you with "your truth". We're going to spend our time winning a whole bunch of elections in November for .... REPUBLICANS!!


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    Excerpt:

    Trump’s # 1 Border Lie: The Wall’s Already Being Built

    Over the last few weeks, President Trump has said and written multiple times that the border wall is actually under way. Gone was the talk of Mexico paying for it, but in its place were pictures sent from Trump’s Twitter account of the wall seemingly going up.

    Late last month he told supporters at a rally in Ohio that funding for “the wall” had been approved to the tune of $1.6 billion. And in a conference with Baltic leaders on April 3 he repeated the claim again, saying, “We’ve started building the wall.”

    [COLOR=rgba(2, 20, 31, 0.85)]Only we haven’t. And won’t anytime soon.[/COLOR]

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    Great briefing this afternoon on the start of our Southern Border WALL!
    3:47 PM - Mar 28, 2018




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    A report by Politifact concludes that the $1.6 billion Congress approved for infrastructure along the border comes with a built-in clause that explicitly prohibits Trump’s vision of a “wall,” instead stipulating contractors can only erect see-through “pedestrian fencing” comprised of “steel bollard designs, that prioritize agent safety.”

    The $1.6 billion is itself just a fraction of the $25 billion Trump had requested in order to construct a solid concrete span that ran for a 1,000 miles and stood 35 to 40 feet high. By contrast the 2018 funding Trump received is slated to repair existing, Vietnam-era fences along a 33-mile stretch of border. And even those modest retrofitting projects have yet to begin.

    So what about those tweeted photos of the wall under construction?

    Truth is those pictures were taken in Calexico, California, as part of a state-funded project that had been in the works since 2009. And the plan is not to build a wall at all, but instead to use the same mandated and approved, hollow-beamed bollard fencing to replace an unsafe scrap-metal barrier.

    So it turns out those convincing construction-site images, and the president’s claims that they represent his wall in the making, are no truer than the rest of his recent claims on immigration and the border.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/exposi...es-a-checklist
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    According to the linked article, the new fence in Calexio is a federally funded, federally supervised and federally regulated project of the Trump Administration.

    So US Border Patrol under the Trump is building that new 18 foot high bollard fence in Calexio, California, according to the article. No clue why "daily beast" has titled the link "state-funded project" when it's federal money under the authority of the US Border Patrol of the Trump Administration. I can guess, though. SAD!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    According to the linked article, the new fence in Calexio is a federally funded, federally supervised and federally regulated project of the Trump Administration.

    So US Border Patrol under the Trump is building that new 30 foot high bollard fence in Calexio, California, according to the article. No clue why "daily beast" has titled the link "state-funded project" when it's federal money under the authority of the US Border Patrol of the Trump Administration. I can guess, though. SAD!!!
    Huh, is this just more obfuscation to draw attention away from the actual fact that Trump has been lying for quite awhile now on the border wall?

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    No, the article says it's a US Border Patrol project, not a "state-funded" project. It's funded with federal money not state money.

    You can feel free to call Trump a liar, I don't mind. The left-wingers have been calling Donald Trump a liar since he announced his run for President. This doesn't phase me or any other Trump Supporter that I know. We're interested in results and the new bollard fence in Calexio will be much better than the old sheet metal one. That's progress in my book and glad to see it finally being built by the Trump Administration. Obama sat on it and shuttered it for 8 years. Time it's built. Trump getting her done! GOOD!!! Same for the other several sections in Texas and Arizona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    No, the article says it's a US Border Patrol project, not a "state-funded" project. It's funded with federal money not state money.

    You can feel free to call Trump a liar, I don't mind. The left-wingers have been calling Donald Trump a liar since he announced his run for President. This doesn't phase me or any other Trump Supporter that I know. We're interested in results and the new bollard fence in Calexio will be much better than the old sheet metal one. That's progress in my book and glad to see it finally being built by the Trump Administration. Obama sat on it and shuttered it for 8 years. Time it's built. Trump getting her done! GOOD!!! Same for the other several sections in Texas and Arizona.
    Who cares? That is a frivolous issue that has nothing to do with the discussion.

    The border fencing currently being put in place was already funded and planned. It has nothing to do with Trump's campaigned for border wall. Truth and facts matter.
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    So, something that was supposed to be done in 2009, is getting done now by Trump. Good!! We love it! We want more and as soon as there are MORE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS to fund more money for border security, we'll have more fencing and walls. Until then, I guess it's just plod along with $1.6 billion a year.

    WANT MORE GOOD FENCING? WANT A WALL? VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2018!!!!
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