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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
    Getting a wall is going too slow. The promise of a wall was and is a signature chant at MAGA rallies. People keep coming across the border in droves every month. We are being invaded and their strength in numbers just grows.

    We should all agree that the borders must immediately be secured by whatever means as we wait for the children in Congress and President Trump to do much more to build a physical wall/barrier. The president should use his powers to order that all measures be used to shut down border crossings including financial threats to Mexico.
    Implement Judy's Plan B!

    Judy's Plan B:

    Tell all these countries, if your citizens don't stop entering our country illegally, then your country will have no aid from or trade with the United States. Period.

    Takes 2 minutes signing an EO and doesn't cost the US a dime, in fact, we make money from economic sanctions like this. Give it a try and see how it goes. I think it will be very effective and solve most if not all of the problem very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post


    The trouble is, Trump’s lying about border wall construction is so over the top, I’m starting to think he actually believes his own patently untrue claims. I’m not sure which is worse: the idea that the president is engaged in a deliberate public gaslighting, or the idea that Trump can no longer tell the difference between fact and fiction.

    If I were writing that, I would change that statement to this.....

    I’m not sure which is worse: the idea that the president is engaged in a deliberate public gaslighting, or the idea that his worshipers are destroying the Republican Party.

    Yes, for many of us the Republican Party we grew up with, voted for and defended for years is GONE. It has been taken over by a group of Q fanatics, and a group who openly defends liars. For many of us it is disgusting to the point that some will never vote again as long as they live.
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    Ann Coulter: ‘In One Generation’ U.S. Will Be ‘South Africa,’ Trump ‘Betrayed’ Voters with ‘Paul Ryan Republicanism’
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    New York Times best-selling author and populist conservative columnist Ann Coulter says the United States will, “in one generation,” become South Africa after President Trump signed off on House Speaker Paul Ryan’s omnibus spending bill that does not include a single provision from the president’s 70-point list of pro-American immigration reforms.

    In an interview with Fox News Radio’s Tom Shillue, Coulter slammed Trump, saying he has “betrayed” his base of supporters by signing the omnibus without it including any border wall funding, increasing the “Catch and Release” program, and not adding any new deportation agents to help deport illegal aliens living in the interior of the country.



    “I can’t imagine how it could be any worse,” Coulter said. “There’s zero funding for the wall, and in fact, he’s prevented from putting up even one little inch from those prototypes. No, all he can do is build a little pedestrian fence. Nothing that he’s been looking at. None of the prototypes, totally banned.”

    Coulter is referring to a provision in Ryan’s spending bill that specifically bans Trump from using any of the new border wall designs his administration has commissioned, only allowing instead for previously-used fencing barriers to be constructed.

    Trump has previously noted how that fencing has not been effective in stopping illegal aliens from pouring across the southern border.

    “No, the bill actually prohibits him using any of the prototypes,” Coulter continued. “It states what kind of ‘barrier’ can be used, i.e. one that we’re absolutely sure Mexicans can get across.”

    “He can repaint some fences,” Coulter said. “There’s a fence down by the San Diego border and he can repaint that.”


    Coulter said that unlike her previous pleas to voters to vote for Republicans over Democrats, when it comes to the 2018 midterm elections “there’s no point.” because GOP and Democrat lawmakers “seem to all agree: They want open borders, cheap labor for the Koch brothers, voters for the Democrats. I think we’ll all be in happy unison for the end of America.”

    Trump’s signing of the omnibus that does not provide any reforms to the current legal and illegal immigration system — even though Republican voters say reducing immigration is their top priority — is “Paul Ryan Republicanism,” Coulter said.

    “This is it. This is it. In one generation this country is going to be South Africa,” Coulter said. “We had this one chance to save it and we were betrayed.”

    As Breitbart News has reported, South Africa has started the process of attempting to take land from the country’s white minority without compensation, a plan supported by radicals and black nationalists. Likewise, in 2017, South Africa saw a surging death toll of white farmers.

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...republicanism/

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    I'm sorry to be the one to inform you but there is no "Q".
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post

    Coulter said that unlike her previous pleas to voters to vote for Republicans over Democrats, when it comes to the 2018 midterm elections “there’s no point.” because GOP and Democrat lawmakers “seem to all agree: They want open borders, cheap labor for the Koch brothers, voters for the Democrats. I think we’ll all be in happy unison for the end of America.”

    “This is it. This is it. In one generation this country is going to be South Africa,” Coulter said. “We had this one chance to save it and we were betrayed.”


    “We had this one chance to save it and we were betrayed.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    LOL!! Facts don't lie. Trump got the funding for the fencing in your article. FACT. Trump took credit for it. FACT. I have no problem with a President taking credit for results he is responsible for getting done. FACT. Trump posted photos of the fencing in his Tweet so there would be no confusion over what was being built: a steel fence. FACT. Everyone who saw the Tweet knows exactly what was being built because there are photos of it. FACT. No illusions. No lies. All good simple great leadership by President Trump to snag funds to build needed new and improved fencing in high priority areas to keep illegal aliens out of our country. FACT.

    KEEP THE TRUMP TRAIN ROLLIN' ROLLIN' ROLLIN'!! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2018!!!!
    Once again I say:

    "You're being very disingenuous and are manipulating the facts to fit your own truth. That may work on some, but it won't work on me. I know the truth and you are misrepresenting it. Trump hasn't done anything on the border wall he campaigned on but make empty promises and create illusions and lie to fool those that tend to believe anything and everything he says."

    Facts:


    • President Donald Trump said he got $1.6 Billion to start Wall on Southern Border.
    • In reality, he didn't.
    • The omnibus funding bill included no money for Trump's proposed wall.
    • It did contain funding to build 47 miles of fencing similar to what exists now, which has done nothing to stop illegal immigrants.
    • Additionally, the bill replaced 45 miles of existing fencing, but not one single foot of the border wall Trump campaigned on.

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    You betrayed yourselves with bellyaching, whining and complaining. You laid down your own swords and deserted your own country and fellow citizens. I've no sympathy or empathy for any of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    You betrayed yourselves with bellyaching, whining and complaining. You laid down your own swords and deserted your own country and fellow citizens. I've no sympathy or empathy for any of that.
    Ha,ha, ha. You're a funny lady.

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    Rasmussen Daily Tracking Poll

    Monday, October 08, 2018

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-seven percent (47%) disapprove.

    The latest figures include 38% who Strongly Approve of the way Trump is performing and 38% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of zero (0). (see trends).

    This is Trump’s highest Presidential Approval Index rating since early February of last year, shortly after he first took office. By comparison, Barack Obama earned a presidential approval index rating of -12 on October 8, 2010, in the second year of his presidency.

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    POSTED ONMON, APR 2ND, 2018 BY DR. MARK BEAR

    Trump Pathologically Lies To His Supporters And They Just Do Not Seem To Care


    With Mr. Trump being considered by many political pundits and media outlets as the most prolific liar as President in modern day politics, it is stunning to observe his supporters continuing to stand by his side.

    Case in point: The New York Times dedicated an entire cover to Mr. Trump’s lies, leading the Times reader and Trump supporter to write to the Editor of that outlet, issuing the following rationalization:

    Yes, but if you made a similar list for previous presidents, it would be just as bad.”


    Therefore, in December, 2017 the New York Times accommodated the Trump supporter by comparing Mr. Trump’s lies with those of former President, Barack Obama.

    Applying the same “conservative standard” to Mr. Obama as the publication applied to Mr. Trump, the Times found that Obama misled the American people a total of eighteen times during his entire eight-year term.

    Mr. Trump however, was found lying ten times this amount in the first ten months of his term.

    Other publications noticed this near-historic pattern of lying too. The Washington Post, for example, printed on November 14, 2017 that Mr. Trump, up to that point in time had made false of misleading claims a total of 1,628 times. To clarify: This was merely covering 298 days of Trump’s administration.

    Time Magazine, in their January 2, 2018 edition prints how Mr. Trump had made over 1,950 false statements or misleading statements in his first year as President alone. ”

    The publication further argues how these lies are having not only an effect on citizens’ trust in government institutions, but also in Mr. Trump as President, while citing a Quinnipiac poll reflecting how nearly 62% of Americans view Trump as a “dishonest man.”

    In addition to Trump’s lies, his supporters must deal with the very factual aspect that he is also failing to deliver on the majority of promises made to them during the campaign.

    To date, Mr. Trump has made good on a mere three promises out of 282 made to his supporters during the campaign. He has succeeded in lowering the corporate tax rate, withdrew from the Paris climate deal, and nominated a conservative justice, Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.

    A central campaign promise made by Mr. Trump among the plethora of others is his promise to build a wall along our southern border.

    Throughout the campaign, the Trump rally attendee was consistently told how Trump was “going to build a wall” while “making Mexico pay for the project.”

    Often, Mr. Trump would ask those attending his rally: “What are we going to do,” only for rally attendees to answer enthusiastically, “Build a wall.” This rhetoric would most often be followed up with “Who is going to pay for it,” only for those same people to scream with wild abandonment, “Mexico.”

    Watch the video to see various times Trump made this promise:

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    Pragmatism aside, one still must ask: why do Trump’s supporters continue to support his agenda, when it is clear he lies and fails to keep the majority of promises he has made to them? While theories abound, one thing is certain: Mr. Trump is lying to his base about keeping his promises. Case in point:

    Last week, among all of the shuffling around with major news stories, such as Russia, Mueller, administration changes, and a host of other things, one specific issue did not receive that much coverage. During the tumult of the week, Mr. Trump sent out the following Tweet on March 28,TH:

    “Great briefing this afternoon on the start of our Southern Border WALL!”

    With pictures of a Wall standing being propped by cranes, construction workers hard at the task, and 116 thousand of his Twitter followers clicking the like button, there is only one problem: The Wall shown in the pictures is not Trump’s Wall.

    According to the Los Angeles Times, who saw the earlier Tweet, corrected the record with the following headline: “Trump Tweets That His Border Wall Has Started: It Hasn’t.” According to the publication, the pictures of the Wall that Mr. Trump lifted were those from a portion of an existing Wall which was planned to be repaired back in 2009, due to it being “breached several hundred times badly in need of repair.”

    In fact, Jonathan Pacheco, a spokesman for the Border Patrol’s El Centro Sector, told those attending a citizens academy earlier in the month the following:

    “This isn’t the infrastructure that Trump is trying to bring in…. This new wall replacement has absolutely nothing to do with the prototypes that were shown over in the San Diego area.”


    Of course, this led Mr. Trump and his Administration to correct the error, right? Wrong. In fact, when the Times contacted the Department of Homeland Security to clear up the confusion, they specifically asked whether “the Wall posted by Trump and the one spoken of by Mr. Pacheo were one and the same,” only to receive a one word response: “Yes.”

    Adding insult to injury, prior to Mr. Trump leaving for Mar-A-Lago for the Easter break, he held a rally out in Ohio last week. During that rally he once again brought up how construction on the “Wall” had commenced citing the pictures he posted on Twitter, calling it a “thing of beauty.”

    Watch Mr. Trump openly lie again about construction on the Wall:


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    Again: Democracy can only function when the information being shared in the public square is reliable and honest. Why? Citizens across this land make their decision of support premised on this information. Mr. Trump’s persistent lying has a corrosive effect not only on democracy, but our future, as children observe his behavior.

    And what to make of Mr. Trump’s supporters? While, they are not dumb, naive, or ignorant, they simply cannot take him at his word anymore. Should they do so, they are like those suffering from battered wife syndrome and are as Eugene Robinson writes, “suckers.” You can only be lied to so many times before you begin looking like the fool.

    Trump pathologically lies to his supporters and they do not seem to care one single bit. Why?

    I’ll allow the reader to decide.


    https://www.politicususa.com/2018/04/02/trump-pathologically-lies-to-his-supporters-and-they-just-do-not-seem-to-care.html

    To date, Mr. Trump has made good on a mere three promises out of 282 made to his supporters during the campaign. He has succeeded in lowering the corporate tax rate, withdrew from the Paris climate deal, and nominated a conservative justice, Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
    Due to the date of the article, the above information is incorrect.

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