Thread: U.S. immigrants pose TB threat From coast to coast

Third, these people are actually HEALTHIER than our own demographic longevity models predict for their level of poverty. Much of this is attributed to their hard-work, lean-meat, maize and beans diet. Here is a link to one recent report: http://www.globalhealth.harvard.edu/

Do you have a specific link to your claim. The one you give only goes to a home page.

There is no shame in a simple platform. Stop conflating the issues. This is not a medical problem; it is a labor laws enforcement issue PERIOD!!!!

I don't think bringing up serious health questions is conflating the issues. I do agree that employer enforcement is something that needs to be addressed.

Originally Posted by JohnB2012

Third, these people are actually HEALTHIER than our own demographic longevity models predict for their level of poverty. Much of this is attributed to their hard-work, lean-meat, maize and beans diet. Here is a link to one recent report: http://www.globalhealth.harvard.edu/

Do you have a specific link to your claim. The one you give only goes to a home page.

[quote:96xgznzg]There is no shame in a simple platform. Stop conflating the issues. This is not a medical problem; it is a labor laws enforcement issue PERIOD!!!!

I don't think bringing up serious health questions is conflating the issues. I do agree that employer enforcement is something that needs to be addressed.[/quote:96xgznzg]

Ooops. The Harvard site has the actual demographic data. Here is a print article link: http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la- ... -headlines

I guess we agree to disagree. The more we pile on various issues and nuances the harder it is to see that the main thing we have to fix is vigorous enforcement of existing labor laws. The health thing is a propaganda issue slanted to get more Americans uncomfortable with the "otherness" of Mexican people. It is a racially-biased strategy, which most people agree is a dead-end strategy. If you want to believe it, that's your perogative, but it will not win the day, and in fact will likely alienate most supporters.

The border fence is stupid because it is a cop-out from busting down businesses and revoking their licenses for employing illegal labor. Every single penny in the fence should go to enforcing labor laws. If we do that, we won't need a fence, because no one will WANT to come over here.

This is why this anti-illegal immigration movement is tieing its own shoelaces together in supporting the fence. It is a red-herring, just like this whole medical angle.

These invaders are walking time bombs you never know which one is a carrier of a deadly disease.I do not see how the government can demand that these little aliens with any kind of disease be allowed to go to a public school unscreened.These people need to go now for all they are going to do is spread one epidemic after another.Leprosy,incurable TB,Chagas disease we do not need these 3rd world diseases in this country.I mean this whole thing is unreal, someone posted a actual picture of fibers coming out of a persons skin thanks to an alien.Or I should say thanks to a bought out government!Vote the bums out!

Originally Posted by DEEDEE

These invaders are walking time bombs you never know which one is a carrier of a deadly disease.I do not see how the government can demand that these little aliens with any kind of disease be allowed to go to a public school unscreened.These people need to go now for all they are going to do is spread one epidemic after another.Leprosy,incurable TB,Chagas disease we do not need these 3rd world diseases in this country.I mean this whole thing is unreal, someone posted a actual picture of fibers coming out of a persons skin thanks to an alien.Or I should say thanks to a bought out government!Vote the bums out!

^ This is what I am talking about. DEEDEE, do you understand that Mexico and the United States are part of the same geographic area? Do you think you will completely isolate Mexico from the U.S. epidemiologically?

And, these people are not invaders, they are guests of U.S. businesses who are granted amnesty from routinely breaking labor laws.

DeeDee, you know the names of so many diseases. I suggest you look them up and find their geographical place of origin. It might bring you some comfort because Mexico is not a third world country and it is not a major source of the diseases you mentioned.

DeeDee, you are part of the problem of illegal labor. The real diseases is here in the current political mileau, which is unable to enforce existing labor law. I'm am saddened to see over and over again that that both the anti-illegal labor and the pro-illegal labor and everyone in between cannot identify the real reason for this geopolitical issue. It has nothing to do with imaginary alien diseases nor does it have anything to do with fences nor with any sort of an organized opposition to this movement. It has to do with the fact that it is OKAY if business pay people very low wages under the table.

Actually, it has a lot to do with a quarantine line that has been violated by people that are bringing diseases back into this country that have never existed here or were eradicated by our diligent immunization program or isolation of illnesses. To say that our geographic neighbors are not infecting us is ludicrous and blatant denial of facts. Time and time again, our healthcare professionals are finding incidences, in the illegal alien population. In sum, illegal aliens are carriers of diseases that were cleared from the American population. You need some CDC reality.

Also, the way you spin. Nice how you blamed business for the commission of a crime. Just because you are offered or tempted by something that is illegal, doesn’t mean you should take it. Adam and Eve. Every illegal alien in this country knows they should not be here.

Dixie

DeeDee, you know the names of so many diseases.

haemorrhagic fever - El Salvador
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2002_07_19a/en/index.html

equine encephalitis - Mexico
http://www.who.int/csr/don/1996_08_06b/en/index.html

haemorrhagic fever - Honduras
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2002_07_19b/en/index.html

human and avian influenza - Russia
http://www.who.int/csr/don/archive/country/rus/en/

yellow fever - Venezuela
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2004_09_14/en/index.html

human and avian influenza - China
http://www.who.int/csr/don/archive/country/chn/en/

recent yellow fever - Africa
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2006_10_19a/en/index.html

recent wild poliovirus type-1 - Africa
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2006_10_19/en/index.html

Ooops. The Harvard site has the actual demographic data. Here is a print article link: http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la- ... -headlines

From the article:

Scholars also note that it seems to apply more to some diseases than to others. Data suggest Latinos experience less lung and breast cancer than whites, but they also are more likely to have diabetes, cervical cancer and AIDS.

The paradox's power appears variable, too, waning by some measures with each generation and fluctuating by place of origin. Some researchers say that, for unclear reasons, it is most apparent among Mexicans and less so among Puerto Ricans.

"You never get a complete picture of what's going on," said Alberto Palloni, a sociology professor at the University of Wisconsin and president of the Population Assn. of America. "You get patches, halfway photographs of what is happening."

The article also talks about mostly "latinos" in general and doesn't seperate legal from illegal. I would also suspect there is not a lot of statistical information on illegals.

TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT!

Originally Posted by JohnB2012

DeeDee, you know the names of so many diseases.

haemorrhagic fever - El Salvador
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2002_07_19a/en/index.html

equine encephalitis - Mexico
http://www.who.int/csr/don/1996_08_06b/en/index.html

haemorrhagic fever - Honduras
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2002_07_19b/en/index.html

human and avian influenza - Russia
http://www.who.int/csr/don/archive/country/rus/en/

yellow fever - Venezuela
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2004_09_14/en/index.html

human and avian influenza - China
http://www.who.int/csr/don/archive/country/chn/en/

recent yellow fever - Africa
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2006_10_19a/en/index.html

recent wild poliovirus type-1 - Africa
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2006_10_19/en/index.html

Very good. There's a lot to comment on here. I'll start with this list of diseases. Note that only ONE disease out of the this spurious list of EIGHT is attributed to having a source in Mexico. There are two others for hemorrhagic fever but they both map to Central America. Now read carefully. These two diseases all have MOSQUITO VECTORS! Humans are not the vectors, i.e. the carriers of the disease agent. This means that people do NOT carry these diseases. Mosquitoes do. Humans can be infected by them, but they are NOT carriers. Also, equine encephalitis has been spread by mosquitos all the way up to New England. It infects horses and other mammals, and occasionally humans. This is not something that has anything to do with migrants from Mexico.

This is another example of how generalized hysteria and xenophobia is killing the true LEGITIMATE BASIS for being against ILLEGAL LABOR. Companies are breaking labor laws! That's unquestionable. And that is the reason illegal labor will continue to flood the country. 1 + 1 = 2

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:20 am Post subject: "Neurocysticercosis" NEW IMPORT

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"Neurocysticercosis" is the term for infection of the nervous
system - usually the brain - with the pork tapeworm; in the U.S.,
it is acquired by eating tapeworm eggs shed in human waste - not by
eating pork from an infected pig. It is endemic in Latin America, Africa, and Asia - but had been extremely uncommon in this country until recently; in the U.S., the main way it is transmitted is by aliens from areas where it endemic working as foodhandlers and not washing their hands when they use the restroom while at work. In non-Moslem countries in the Third World - where pork is a common food, meaning pigs commonly get infected from human waste, cysticercosis is responsible for one-third of epilepsy cases.
Most U.S. cases are in the Southwest and are among immigrants
from Third World areas where the disease is endemic. However, a
1992 Centers for Disease Control report noted that 7.3% of cases in
Los Angeles County were locally-transmitted; these patients were
native-born Americans who had never traveled to countries where the disease is common. Another CDC report, this one in July-September 1997, noted that the disease is increasingly common among Americans who have never left the U.S. The CDC notes that it is responsible for 2% of neurologic hospital admissions in Southern California., producing more than 1,000 cases yearly nationwide. In 2002, the CDC noted that
the brain-damaging worm disease caused 10% of all epilepsy cases in
Los Angeles emergency rooms.

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