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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Why would the feds pay them? The states, counties and municipalities are already paying them.
    The cities, counties and states would want to be reimbursed by the feds for the time their employees are enforcing federal laws, transporting federal prisoners, and keeping people in jails and prisons that they own. Just like in the past. They will sue the feds.

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    federal reimbursement to request, but in ... States view the requirement that they must provide services to illegal aliens as ... to illegal alien mothers, and 17 percent of the state's prisoners are illegal aliens.


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    You are reimbursed when you are doing something extra that you aren't already being paid to do. I'm not sure where you get the idea that when police officers are paid to enforce the laws and work 40 hours or whatever a week to do that plus benefits by their employer that their employer should feel it should be "reimbursed" by bankrupt US taxpayers by demanding they be paid twice for the same frigging work.

    The United States and most states for that matter have laws about double-dealing and collecting twice for the same activity. They are no more entitled to a "reimbursement" than a drug dealer would be able to claim "reimbursement" for lost income while in prison.

    Either our state and local law enforcement is with US on this, or they're against US. And I for one am NOT ready to consider LEO's who risk their lives every day for this country as part of the group of people who are against US. I believe they perhaps even more than some want this problem solved, including deportation of those not here in accordance with our laws and the will of the people of the United States. Sure, there are cops on the take with the drug cartels and other criminal enterprises involving illegal aliens, we know that, but hopefully they are few and far between.
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    I believe most of the states that have requested reimbursement are border states. Some of their reasoning is valid. They are told over and over that immigration is under federal jurisdiction, yet the federal government is not stopping them at the border. When they arrest and detain illegal aliens they are either not picked up or are released back into the U.S. This rotating door by the federal government is costing the taxpayers of these states. (I am not talking for California, even though it has happened here too)

    I live in the country right between the second and third most dangerous cities in California. The highest violent crimes in California are committed on both sides of me and following the police logs they are usually committed by HMA's (Hispanic male adults). We are seeing first hand that anchor babies are just as or more dangerous then illegal aliens. I give credit to the police in both cities they are constantly fighting armed criminals. At least people around here do not protest when our police are involved in a shooting.

    A couple years ago when these HMA's started with the home invasions we built a wall with fence and 3 layers of trees around our property. We keep our gates locked at all times and keep our guns loaded. To go shopping I take the back roads through the country and drive 60 miles to a safe zone to shop. I am not complaining, because it is my husband's choice to stay on the property his family has owned for decades. I just want everyone to understand the danger and reality of not stopping this maddness.
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    I believe with every fiber of me that as soon as the President of the United States gives state and local law enforcement the GREEN LIGHT without fear of federal retribution or legal challenges to enforce US immigration law, you will see 800,000 of our best people on the task the minute they get the word to go. They already know who they are, where they are and what they're doing. It will not be considered a burden or additional work by American Law Enforcement Officers, it will be their privilege to defend and protect our country by defending and protecting the citizens and legal residents of their jurisdiction by enforcing our immigration law.

    And all I can say to those who don't believe yet that Americans can fix our country:

    Just Stand Back and Watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I believe with every fiber of me that as soon as the President of the United States gives state and local law enforcement the GREEN LIGHT without fear of federal retribution or legal challenges to enforce US immigration law, you will see 800,000 of our best people on the task the minute they get the word to go. They already know who they are, where they are and what they're doing. It will not be considered a burden or additional work by American Law Enforcement Officers, it will be their privilege to defend and protect our country by defending and protecting the citizens and legal residents of their jurisdiction by enforcing our immigration law.

    And all I can say to those who don't believe yet that Americans can fix our country:

    Just Stand Back and Watch.
    Unless the immigration laws are changed, we'll never see police in many of our liberal cities get the "go" word. Most of our biggest cities in the country are under the control of liberals. Do you honestly think the police of places like Detroit, Chicago, New York City, San Francisco, Boston, Seattle, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles, etc., etc., etc., are going to actively pursue and apprehend illegals for just being illegal? That's not going to happen. It's not the fault of local P.D. because they are not the ones in control of making that decision. It's the liberal mayor and local city council members that are the problem. It'll be the same old cry and dance routine ...... "illegal immigration is the responsibility of the federal government." Just calling it the way I see it.

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    Do you honestly think the police of places like Detroit, Chicago, New York City, San Francisco, Boston, Seattle, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles, etc., etc., etc., are going to actively pursue and apprehend illegals for just being illegal?
    Oh absolutely I do. They are as American as anyone else. They know the illegal alien crime, the drugs, the gangs, the welfare fraud, the cost to federal and California taxpayers, they know the scams, the frauds, the identity theft, the criminal enterprises, the unemployed Americans put out of work by illegal aliens, and the unnecessary poverty caused by them. LAPD can't wait to do their part to get these people out of here.

    At least that's how I see it. After all, as Sherry reminds US, it was California that pulled together in 1994 when it was a lot less worse of a problem than it is now to pass Proposition 187.

    With a GREEN LIGHT from the President and a joint task force to coordinate .... Americans will solve this problem and state and local law enforcement will be a huge part of that solution.

    Why would anyone believe anything else?
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    Why would anyone believe anything else?
    Because some of us are going in this with our eyes wide open.
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    You don't see loyal Americans on the LAPD? You don't believe state and local law enforcement officers aren't burning as hot as we are to get these people who aren't supposed to be here out of our country? Police officers who will arrest an American for standing on the sidewalk in the front yard holding a can of beer??!!

    You don't believe our police officers want to enforce the laws they know are vital to the national security and economic well-being of the people they risk their lives to protect?!

    Because your "eyes are wide open"?

    Your eyes may be open but you're looking the wrong way, seems to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    You don't see loyal Americans on the LAPD? You don't believe state and local law enforcement officers aren't burning as hot as we are to get these people who aren't supposed to be here out of our country? Police officers who will arrest an American for standing on the sidewalk in the front yard holding a can of beer??!!

    You don't believe our police officers want to enforce the laws they know are vital to the national security and economic well-being of the people they risk their lives to protect?!

    Because your "eyes are wide open"?

    Your eyes may be open but you're looking the wrong way, seems to me.
    You're completely missing the point. The Chief of Police, regardless of his motivation and dedication, doesn't make the rules. He (or she) works at the pleasure of the city mayor and to a lesser degree the city council. They hand out the walking orders and the police chief manages and directs those under his leadership to act by the laws and ordinances set forth by those above him. The Mayor of Chicago, Rahm Emanuel, is not going to order Chicago's police department to actively pursue and apprehend illegals simply because they're illegals. Actually he'll do everything in his power to make sure the opposite happens. To think otherwise is just not reality based. Right now the folks running the liberal cities hide behind current federal law that states immigration is the responsibility of the federal government. Dedication, motivation, and loyalty of the P.D. membership doesn't figure into this. For your dream to become reality, there will have to be a serious change in federal law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    You don't see loyal Americans on the LAPD? You don't believe state and local law enforcement officers aren't burning as hot as we are to get these people who aren't supposed to be here out of our country? Police officers who will arrest an American for standing on the sidewalk in the front yard holding a can of beer??!!

    You don't believe our police officers want to enforce the laws they know are vital to the national security and economic well-being of the people they risk their lives to protect?!

    Because your "eyes are wide open"?

    Your eyes may be open but you're looking the wrong way, seems to me.
    Judy. it is hard for anyone to understand the dynamics in play in California. The failure of Prop. 187 allowed the Liberals to step in and work with the Hispanics to drive out the Republicans. Remember it has been 22 years and those anchor babies have grown up, completed college and now hold elected offices in our government. Counting legal as well as illegal people in the census and passing a redistricting bill has allowed Hispanics to put people that are all for illegals in office.

    Los Angeles is where the largest illegal alien population. LAPD cannot and will not enforce any immigration laws. To tell you the truth if Trump was to start deporting illegal aliens there would be a war in California. Our police are already overworked and outnumbered. We have the worse of the worse living in California. I mean we are walking around with apps on our smart phones so that we can get crime alerts. Just today I got an alert to stay out of a area because there was a shoot out between 1 BMA and 3 HMA over road rage.

    All of the California Sheriffs Departments are primarily the only ones that will fight our state to enforce immigration laws.
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