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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    I hope the federal government can deport every illegal alien and all of their anchor babies too. But there are a lot of consequences to those actions that may not have been discussed yet. We can not possibly foresee everything that could happen.

    And then there's Murphy's law

    Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.
    There are only 2 consequences to deporting all illegal aliens:

    1. Americans get their jobs back at higher rates of pay
    2. Millions of illegal aliens on some form of welfare are no longer drawing benefits and the cost of poverty is greatly diminished.
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    How many naturalized citizens work in city, county, state or federal law enforcement and would rather defend their relatives and other people from the old country than round them up?

    How many naturalized citizens are in every branch of the U.S. military, with access to every weapon we have, would rather defend their relatives and other people from the old country than sit by an watch them rounded up and deported?

    Lots and lots of things that could go wrong that need to be talked about.
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    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    We have seen riots in the street at Trump rallies.

    What would happen if thousands of grandmas and little kids get deported?

    Lots of things to think about.
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    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    There are a lot of issues and concerns and I think we should be able to bring them up as we think of them. We cannot rely on the media or hope to understand how to solve this problem without dialogue from everyone. We all have valid ideas and through our varied knowledge and experiences we can only learn.

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    Look forward to the dirty smelly grocery stores closing..

    Some workers are here on work visas, would assume they would not be affected. That is fine for the initial clean out period as long as the illegals, their children & criminals GO. See where we are at after that. So important that this comes to fruition.

    What will happen to the tens of thousands of "children" at the border taken in & distributed @ the country. How can they be expelled? There will be hundreds of thousands by years end.
    http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/blog/detail/under-obama-the-number-of-undocumented-immigrants-skyrocketing?f=immigration

    Landlords enabled law breakers & they deserve to tumble till our youth can find work and move out of their parents basements.

    Very important - Will the H1-b stem worker visas be cut? They are here in enormous quantities & O just created a way for them to bring their spouses & work here too. That is integral for our educated youths to finally have a job to pay their enormous student loans necessary to acquire a degree.

    LEO have to do their job or be fired no matter what their ethnicity.

    Will be tense but Trump will figure it out - he is an executive.
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    We were warned years ago about the intention of Mexican immigration - We must put a stop to anchor babies. If we do not it will not matter what we do. This was their intent and this is what is happening in California.

    By supporting continued high levels of Mexican immigration to the United States, MEChA hopes to flood the Southwestern U.S. with enough immigrants—legal and illegal—to establish a numerical majority and achieve, by sheer weight of numbers, the re-partition of that region of the country. This “reconquista,” or reconquest, would represent the fulfillment of
    El Plan de Aztlán‘s credo: “Where we are a majority we will control; where we are a minority we will represent a pressure group; nationally, we represent one party: La Familia de Raza[the Family of Race].”
    It should be noted that such a “reconquista” represents only the first phase of the “La Raza” movement that MEChA supports. The next phase would involve the ethnic cleansing, or expulsion, of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent out of “Aztlán.” As Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge’s MEChA chapter once put it, after the establishment of Aztlán, non-Chicanos “would have to be expelled” because “you have to keep power.”

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    Yes that is the deal & O's HUD director castro is the son of a LaRaza advocate. Another post mentions gov't funds were funneled to laraza.

    The gov't has sanctioned this overtaking of America. That is why it is so important to be rid of the scum element in our gov't as they do want to be rid of us. They love the idea of a nation filled with overpopulating dumb bunny consumers. "we explode with babies" is music to their mercenary ears, never mind the chaos, pollution that goes with that.

    Last chance coming up in November. So far they have overtaken w/o a sword or rifle raised & if they dare that, they will be demolished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    How many naturalized citizens work in city, county, state or federal law enforcement and would rather defend their relatives and other people from the old country than round them up?

    How many naturalized citizens are in every branch of the U.S. military, with access to every weapon we have, would rather defend their relatives and other people from the old country than sit by an watch them rounded up and deported?

    Lots and lots of things that could go wrong that need to be talked about.
    That's insulting to many of our naturalized citizens and raises undue and unwarranted suspicions against them.

    We deport people every day. There is no evidence that naturalized American citizens who work in our military and government would harm fellow Americans because a "relative" has been deported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    We have seen riots in the street at Trump rallies.

    What would happen if thousands of grandmas and little kids get deported?

    Lots of things to think about.
    We've already thought about and alked about protests and riots. I've already posted about that. Sherry has posted about "war". It will be dealt with and pass quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pkskyali View Post
    There are many deceits being perpetuated by many parts of the government, local and otherwise, that need to be enforced against. No changes in federal law are necessary, just some discipline will be necessary. Federal law is the supreme law of the land and local governments are subject to it. Just because the federal government holds responsibility for enforcing our borders and immigration doesn't mean that local government can ignore it. Local government cannot contradict federal law.
    Yes, and it is federal law that states all issue regarding immigration are the responsibility of the federal government. All I'm saying is for Judy to see what she expects from local law enforcement throughout the country, a change of federal law will be necessary. In other words a bill will have to be passed and signed into law that will make ALL law enforcement agencies responsible for the active enforcement of immigration law. Without such a law, liberal cities and some states will continue to ignore illegal immigrants to the best of their abilities. Of course such a proposition would be a huge order that could possibly require U.S. Supreme Court involvement because of possible constitutional ramifications.

    Now that's not to say we can't eliminate actual sanctuary status by individual cities, counties, and states because we can through the withholding of federal monies. However, it is still my contention that we can't force these same individual cities, counties, and states to actively pursue and apprehend illegal immigrants for simply being illegals unless there is a change in federal immigration law.

    It would be great if a sitting President had the actual power to make all our immigration problems go away with the simple waving of a magical wand, but unfortunately that is not the case. With all that said, Trump will have the power to ensure our federal immigration laws are enforced as written and our border security is enhanced greatly. Those two things in themselves will be a huge improvement over what we have now. Things such as getting all law enforcement agencies outside federal government to actively pursue and apprehend illegals for deportation is something altogether different.

    We all want the same thing. It's just that some of us envision and predict a tougher road than others.

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