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    White House to reveal immigration plan tomorrow (amnesty)

    White House to reveal immigration proposal tomorrow (amnesty alert)
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    10/17/2005

    WASHINGTON -- White House proposals for overhauling immigration laws are expected to be unveiled Tuesday when two Cabinet secretaries appear before a committee considering legislation to reform the system.

    Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Labor Secretary Elaine Chao are scheduled to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    They will discuss proposals to bolster border security and create a guest-worker program.

    Despite a legislative agenda dominated by hurricane relief and the Iraq war, the White House said immigration reform remains a priority for President Bush.

    "We need to continue to take steps to strengthen our border and improve the interior enforcement of our immigration laws," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

    "And we plan to move forward on a temporary worker program," McClellan said.

    The president's call for a guest worker program has received little support from conservative Republicans in Congress, who call it an amnesty program for those who have entered the country illegally.

    However, the Judiciary Committee is considering two bills that would create guest worker programs, which have bipartisan support and the blessing of business interests.

    Bush wants Congress to strengthen border enforcement before it tackles a guest worker program, but the administration has offered few details about what it wants in an immigration reform bill.

    Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said last week it was unlikely the Senate could juggle the crowded legislative calendar and pass before the end of the year an immigration bill that includes a guest worker provision.

    Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, chairman of the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on immigration, suggested it would be next year before a complete reform bill is taken up by the Senate.

    Nonetheless, the Judiciary Committee is moving ahead with its proposals to add manpower to the Southwest border, improve equipment and build more detention beds.

    That approach is favored by House Republican leaders, like Rep. Lamar Smith, R-San Antonio, who have asked the Bush administration to forego its push for a guest worker program until the federal government can fully protect the borders.

    The split among Republicans over immigration has put that party at a crossroads, analysts said Monday.

    A poll Monday showed that 78 percent of 800 likely GOP voters support earned legalization for undocumented immigrants over an enforcement only approach.

    "Republican voters strongly favor a comprehensive immigration reform plan that combines the stick of tighter borders and tougher enforcement with the carrot of a path to citizenship through an earned legalization process," said Ed Goeas with the Tarrance Group, a GOP polling firm.

    The Republican Party is at a turning point on immigration, said Tamar Jacoby, a senior fellow with the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research.

    Jacoby said the poll "shows that Republican voters see the hardliners' tough talk for the posturing it is and side with the reformers."

    "Republican voters understand that enforcement alone will not fix the broken status quo, and they are demanding that the party step up to the plate with a solution worthy of the name," she said.

    Cornyn and Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., have proposed an overhaul of immigration laws that would add 10,000 new Border Patrol agents and 1,000 customs inspectors over the next 10 years.

    The bill also includes a guest worker provision, but would require undocumented immigrants to return to their country of origin to apply for the program - a requirement that has been criticized as unworkable.

    Another bill by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., would allow undocumented workers in this country to participate in a guest worker program after paying fines for illegal entry. Guest workers could also apply for permanent citizenship.

    The McCain-Kennedy bill has received bipartisan support and an endorsement of minority rights groups urging Congress to streamline immigration laws to better accommodate economic immigrants.

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    Their poll says 78% of likely Republican voters in favor of amnesty. Who the hell were they polling?
    I support enforcement and see its lack as bad for the 3rd World as well. Remittances are now mostly spent on consumption not production assets. Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

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    The Bush administration has a BIG surprise in store for them tomorrow. Get the rotten tomatos and other heavy artillery ready folks. They are going to be dodging for cover by the time we get done with their retched "amnesty" plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Their poll says 78% of likely Republican voters in favor of amnesty. Who the hell were they polling?
    I'm so glad you asked.

    Here it is:

    Immigration Polling

    The Tarrance Group and Lake Snell Perry Mermin recently released a national poll that indicates strong support for bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform legislation.

    The poll, of 800 American “likely voters,� was conducted March 20-22. It was commissioned by the American Immigration Lawyers Association and the National Immigration Forum.
    No bias there, no sir.
    It's like hell vomited and the Bush administration appeared.

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    A poll Monday showed that 78 percent of 800 likely GOP voters support earned legalization for undocumented immigrants over an enforcement only approach.
    One other thing.

    Why is a poll conducted way back in March just being released and being promoted as though it's breaking news?

    Just how desperate is the White House, anyway?
    It's like hell vomited and the Bush administration appeared.

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    There is nothing from stopping George Walker Bush from putting 30 to 50,000 troops and or national guard reservists on that border. NOTHING!

    We all know what the plan is going to be.....come on in Raul and Maria and pay a fine of $1,000 to $5,000 for entering illegally....please pay a ABA lawyer a few grand to fill out your INS paperwork...wait a few years...get residency and then go back to the same lawyer and pay him or her a few grand more to bring in mom and dad and wife and cousin and aunt and brother etc and in 5 years because we politicans will not really hire 30 to 50,000 border patrol agents we can repeat all this in 15 or 20 years.....every year the INS (ICE) will raise all the fees and the paper pushers will all be happy with $$$$ and the rotten politicans in Latin America will meet with Bush or Clinton or Guliani etc and they will wine and dine and nothing will be any different in 5 10 or 15 years excpet that the population will grow by 20 to 40 million......to be continued....

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    Yeah the Freepers (if you can believe it) did a very good job of ripping that poll's credibility apart.

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    10,000 new border patrol agents over 10 years?????????????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Gee, you think if the stupid politicans made the starting wage for the border patrol $50,000 with raises in 10 years to $100,000, that they could not hire 10,000 in 2 years? How about raising the maximum entry age from 37 to 45 or 50...I understand that most of the minutemen are retirees?

    Half of Latin America is going to be here in 30 to 50 years but these idiots in Washington either don't understand this or just don't care.....

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    Looks like they got what they paid for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSmith
    10,000 new border patrol agents over 10 years?????????????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
    Yeah, it's a bigger joke than when the intelligence overhaul bill passed in December of 2004 and promised 10,000 new border patrol agents over five years, which means president Bush funds 2,000 new border patrol agents per year for five years. But he only funded 210 for this year. It's a big scam to try and win republican votes.

    If he keeps breaking his promise for the next four years, that means we will have only gotten 1,050 of the 10,000 promised.

    This and the nomination of Ms. Souter, aka Harriet E. Miers, I'm really starting to dislike president Bush.

    NO AMNESTY.

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