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11-15-2007, 03:35 PM #11
Looks like motion in Oregon already!
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-90759.html
Isnt there a bill in Congress that would cut off licenses for illegals? If so we need the bill number and title
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11-15-2007, 03:52 PM #12
SRES 371 IS
110th CONGRESS
1st Session
S. RES. 371
Expressing the sense of the Senate regarding the issuance of State driver's licenses and other government-issued photo identification to illegal aliens .
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
November 8, 2007
Mr. COLEMAN (for himself, Mrs. DOLE, Mr. MCCONNELL, Mr. LOTT, Mr. ISAKSON, Mr. DEMINT, Mr. MARTINEZ, Mr. ROBERTS, Mr. CHAMBLISS, Mr. VITTER, Mr. ALEXANDER, Mr. BURR, Mr. BOND, Mr. INHOFE, Mr. COBURN, Mr. GRAHAM, Mr. GREGG, Mr. ALLARD, and Mr. CORKER) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
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RESOLUTION
Expressing the sense of the Senate regarding the issuance of State driver's licenses and other government-issued photo identification to illegal aliens .
Whereas some States issue State driver's licenses to aliens who are unlawfully present in the United States;
Whereas by providing official government-issued identification to individuals who are in the United States illegally, States and other government entities reward those who show disrespect and disregard for Federal immigration laws;
Whereas the very act of entering the United States illegally shows disrespect for the laws of the United States and should not be rewarded in any way; and
Whereas issuing driver's licenses to undocumented individuals presents a national security risk and enables election fraud: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That it is the sense of the Senate that States should not issue driver's licenses or other photo identification to aliens who are unlawfully present in the United States.
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11-15-2007, 06:23 PM #13
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I'm in Texas and about a month ago I was at the DVM with my wife.
She was getting her name changed to her marrried name and while there I observed a family of what I believe were illegals. The DMV employee verifying documents was white and the "family" was just there waiting. Then there was a shift change and a hispanic DMV employee was verifying documents. The "family" got in line and waited until called, they were from the carolinas/georgia area and were trying to get a Texas DL. They were told that they needed an additional form of ID. After they were in a little group talking they stated they were going to the Mexican consulate to get a passport since they were told by the DVM employee that a Passport was acceptable.
I was shocked that it was that easy to get a Texas DL if you already have one from another state.
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11-15-2007, 07:33 PM #14
feduphispanic, that's pretty much what it has been like up here in Oregon. We have hopes that it will change though.
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11-15-2007, 08:02 PM #15
Welcome William. Bill in House also.
Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives regarding the issuance of State driver's licenses or other government-issued photo identification to illegal aliens. (Introduced in House)
HRES 800 IH
110th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. RES. 800
Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives regarding the issuance of State driver's licenses or other government-issued photo identification to illegal aliens.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
November 6, 2007
Mr. LATHAM (for himself, Mr. BOEHNER, Mr. BLUNT, Mr. WALBERG, Mr. CRENSHAW, Mr. BURTON of Indiana, Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE of Florida, Mr. KUHL of New York, Mr. REYNOLDS, Mr. GINGREY, Mr. LOBIONDO, Mr. ISSA, Mr. HUNTER, Mrs. EMERSON, Mr. JONES of North Carolina, Mr. SOUDER, Mr. KELLER of Florida, Mr. GARY G. MILLER of California, Mrs. MYRICK, Mr. BAKER, Mr. GALLEGLY, Mr. FORTENBERRY, Mr. HOEKSTRA, Mr. FEENEY, Mr. DREIER, Mr. WALSH of New York, Mr. SHAYS, Mrs. MILLER of Michigan, Mr. BUCHANAN, Mrs. CAPITO, Mr. GERLACH, Mr. KING of New York, Mr. WICKER, Mrs. GILLIBRAND, Mr. MCCAUL of Texas, Mr. HULSHOF, Mr. BILBRAY, Mrs. BOYDA of Kansas, Mr. ROGERS of Kentucky, Mr. ROGERS of Michigan, Mr. SHULER, Mr. DOOLITTLE, and Mrs. SCHMIDT) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure
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RESOLUTION
Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives regarding the issuance of State driver's licenses or other government-issued photo identification to illegal aliens.
Whereas some States issue State driver's licenses to aliens who are unlawfully present in the United States;
Whereas by providing official government-issued identification to individuals who are in the United States illegally, States and other government entities reward those who show disrespect and disregard for Federal immigration laws;
Whereas the very act of entering the United States illegally shows disrespect for the laws of the United States and should not be rewarded in any way; and
Whereas issuing driver's licenses to undocumented individuals presents a national security risk and enables election fraud: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that States should not issue driver's licenses or other government-issued photo identification to aliens who are unlawfully present in the United States."Distrust and caution are the parents of security."
Benjamin Franklin
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11-15-2007, 08:11 PM #16
William:
This is currently being persued!! They are going to use the purse strings to enforce the legislation. States that give illegals licenses, will be denied funding for road repairs, etc.-----and their money will be given to states that adhere to the legislation.
Maybe we should send all of the guilty states a copy of this Lou Dobbs transcript!!
Lou Dobbs Tonight
November 14, 2007
CNN Transcipts
DOBBS: New York's governor Eliot Spitzer surrendered on his latest proposal to give away driver's licenses for illegal aliens but there are still eight other states offer in varying forms some privileges to illegal aliens on the roads. Two republican lawmakers are introducing federal legislation to bar states from issuing those licenses. Republican congressmen, the ranking member of the house homeland security committee joins me now. Pete King is sponsor of the legislation, joining us tonight from Capitol Hill. Congressman, first, good to see you and secondly, what in the world do you think this change of heart in the part of Eliot Spitzer means. What is your take?
REP. PETE KING (R), NEW YORK: First of all, congratulations to you, Lou, for all you had to do with this. It was a great day today for America and a great day for New York. Basically, Eliot Spitzer, he just saw finally that the overwhelming majority of New Yorkers were against this and New York is supposed to be a great liberal state. Yet over 75 percent of New Yorkers were against it. The real heat came from his fellow democrats. People like Senator Clinton, the democratic members of Congress, the democratic state legislators. They were getting killed by this. It brings down the entire party. There are enough troubles in New York. Don't impose this. Get out of it. And he finally did it.
DOBBS: Yeah. I always like to be straightforward and fully disclose. I am an independent pop list. I have to say, this, as much as I appreciate the fact the democratic candidates for president are having to stake up their ground on the issue of illegal immigration, border security, national sovereignty, I'm also wondering, what's happened to the Republican Party. They're all over the map with the president that is trying twice to lead this nation into a morass that could have been destructive of national sovereignty and everything that most of us respect about this country's loss.
KING: Yeah. Over the last year, two years, republicans in congress, certainly in the house have stood pretty strong as far as ...
DOBBS: That is an absolutely fair statement. And an appropriate one. I wonder about how the Republican Party is nationally. Where the president has enthusiastically embraced amnesty, open borders, security and prosperity, partnership which is, you know, could lead to a North American union, if Bush and the leaders of Mexico and Canada would have their way.
KING: I don't want to sound too much like Lou Dobbs. The fact is that the problem is have the Republican Party has is the big business interests. Democrats have their party from the liberal left, the Moveon.org crowd was pushing amnesty. The republicans have their problem from big business which wants the cheap labor and they tried to impose their will on the Republican Party. The House of Representatives, we have to run every two years, is much more responsive to real people. That's why you're seeing the house republicans standing up to big business, standing up to the left and doing the right thing. If people like Eliot Spitzer and the leaders of the Republican Party spent more time in American Legion Halls, Knights of Columbus halls, diners, bagel shops, doughnut shops, rather than living in their own echo chambers. They have a much better feel for what the American people want.
DOBBS: Absolutely. Congressman, good to have you. We're out of time. Do you think you'll see this legislation pass?
KING: We got 153 original co-sponsors. That's almost a record for legislation this. We'll push it as hard as we can.
DOBBS: Congressman Pete King who when he pushes something, he usually has a very successful result. Good to have you with us Congressman.
KING: Thank you Lou.
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11-16-2007, 12:12 PM #17Thanks for mentioning Maryland. The lines at the Department of Motor Vehicles are wrapped around the building with illegal immigrants from before the open until they close.
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11-16-2007, 01:08 PM #18
http://gilchrest.house.gov/news.asp?For ... ail&ID=376
November 15, 2007
Gilchrest Supports Legislative Package to Deny Driver's Licenses to Illegal Immigrants
WASHINGTON -- U.S. Rep. Wayne T. Gilchrest (R-Maryland-1st) has cosponsored a package of bills in Congress to prohibit states from issuing driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
"This is a matter of national security. We can't forget that all but one of the terrorists who were involved in the attacks on America on September 11, 2001 , used driver's licenses to establish mulitple false identities and breach security at airports that day. That's why I voted for the REAL ID act in 2005 and continue to support measures that will address these concerns," Gilchrest said.
Gilchrest has cosponsored H.R. 4176, the Prevention of Unsafe Licensing Act, which prohibits states from issuing any driver's license or identification card to individuals not lawfully in the United States.
He has also supported H.R. 4160, which would withhold a portion of a state's federal highway funding if that state issues driver's licenses that are not complaint with the REAL ID Act, including giving licenses to illegal immigrants. This bill gives states until 2010 to comply with the REAL ID Act, or begin to lose highway funds. This is the same tactic used by Congress in 2000 to urge state governments to lower their limits on blood alcohol content to .08 percent.
He also has signed on to H. Res 800, which would express the sense of the House of Representatives that states should not be issuing driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
"The 9/11 Commission found that unsecure driver's licenses issued by state governments constituted a serious national security threat. We should take this advice and pass these bills as another step to try and protect Americans from those who want to do us harm."RIP Butterbean! We miss you and hope you are well in heaven.-- Your ALIPAC friends
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11-16-2007, 01:28 PM #19
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At the Dem debate last night, Bill Richardson bragged that he initiated DL's for illegals four years ago! He also bragged that DL's for illegals reduced accidents by some ridiculous number, and that everyone has insurance now! And I have an igloo in Alaska I want to sell you!!!
BTW, I heard that 23,000 illegals got DL's in NYC before Spitzer was forced to back off!
This scam is all about voter fraud...not national security! Our gov. doesn't give a fig about security...we all know it! Maybe we should require birth certificates to vote, but then the illegals know where to buy those, too.
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11-16-2007, 03:50 PM #20
Here is another win----Oregon Governor is waking up!!
Driver's license rules to tighten
Security - Gov. Ted Kulongoski will issue ID requirements, making it tougher for illegal immigrants
Friday, November 16, 2007
HARRY ESTEVE and JANIE HAR, The Oregonian Staff
"Gov. Ted Kulongoski plans to issue an executive order today that he says would "dramatically tighten" restrictions on Oregon driver's licenses and make it far more difficult for illegal immigrants to get one.
Under Kulongoski's order, which would be subject to approval by the Oregon Transportation Commission, licenses would be issued only to those who have valid Social Security numbers or who can prove they're in the country legally. Driver and Motor Vehicle Services officials would be required to verify the Social Security numbers, which currently is done only for commercial drivers.
"There is an increasing concern, based on ongoing investigations, that Oregon is becoming a safe haven" for unlawfully obtaining identification, said Kulongoski's spokeswoman Patty Wentz. "We need to quickly change the requirements to more closely match other states."
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