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    Quote Originally Posted by vmonkey56
    It will get worse the closer to November but innocent remarks can led to war of words.

    I personally love the two sided debate about who is the worse. But I am the one who wants to hear it all. And it also shows we are so different until it come to closing the border and securing our employment avenues. Maybe?
    Debate is fine but when the personal attacks start which leads to name calling , that is when the lock down happens. Most posters do stay within the parameters of civility, but when things get heated all bets are off.

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    Jeffrey Dahmer was the murderer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeezil
    Has anyone else besides WorriedAmerican
    and P-diddy drunk the Obama Kool-Aid?


    Weezel, I can't stand Obama! Can you read?
    Can you interperate what you read?
    I am STILL for Ron Paul! Is he ANYTHING like Obama?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorriedAmerican
    Quote Originally Posted by zeezil
    Has anyone else besides WorriedAmerican
    and P-diddy drunk the Obama Kool-Aid?

    Weezel, I can't stand Obama! Can you read?
    Can you interperate what you read?
    I am STILL for Ron Paul! Is he ANYTHING like Obama?
    You are showing how ignorant you are ...
    Reading your disjointed posts, WorriedAmerican...I can only consider the source....
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    Yea..I hear you SNT! I have no statistics that can back up my observations either. I could be completely wrong! LOL .
    I do!

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    INCARCERATION AND RACE
    The disproportionate representation of black Americans in the U.S. criminal justice system is well documented. Blacks comprise 13 percent of the national population, but 30 percent of people arrested, 41 percent of people in jail, and 49 percent of those in prison. Nine percent of all black adults are under some form of correctional supervision (in jail or prison, on probation or parole), compared to two percent of white adults. One in three black men between the ages of 20 and 29 was either in jail or prison, or on parole or probation in 1995. One in ten black men in their twenties and early thirties is in prison or jail. Thirteen percent of the black adult male population has lost the right to vote because of felony disenfranchisement laws.

    Admissions to Prison

    Racial disparities in incarceration increased in the 1980s and 1990s as the number of blacks sent to prison grew at a faster rate than the number of whites. Between 1979 and 1990, the number of blacks as a percentage of all persons admitted to state and federal prisons increased from 39 to 53 percent. Although the admissions for both races, in absolute numbers, rose sharply, the increase was greatest for blacks (Figure 1).

    Human Rights Watch has been able to analyze state prison admissions based on raw data on 37 states gathered by the Bureau of Justice Statistics of the U.S. Department of Justice through its National Corrections Reporting Program (NCRP) for 1996, the most recent year for which this data is available. In 17 of these states, blacks constituted more than half of all prison admissions (Table 2). Maryland had the highest percentage of black admissions, 79 percent, followed by Illinois with 74 percent, Louisiana with 73 percent, and New Jersey with 72 percent.

    Overrepresentation of Blacks in Prison

    In every state, the proportion of blacks in prison exceeds, sometimes by a considerable amount, their proportion in the general population (Figure 2). In Minnesota and Iowa, blacks constitute a share of the prison population that is twelve times greater than their share of the state population. In eleven states -- Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming --the percentage of the prison population that is black is more than six times greater than the percentage of the state population that is black.

    Rates of Incarceration

    Racially disaggregated incarceration rates that measure the number of confined blacks and whites per 100,000 residents of each racial group yield another perspective on the extent of racial disparities in imprisonment. Nationwide, blacks are incarcerated at 8.2 times the rate of whites. That is, a black person is 8.2 times more likely to be in prison than a white person. Among individual states, there are even more extraordinary racial disparities in incarceration rates (Figure 3). In seven states -- Connecticut, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, New Jersey, Pennsylvania,

    and Wisconsin -- blacks are incarcerated at more than 13 times the rate of whites. Minnesota has by far the highest disparity -- blacks in that state are incarcerated at 23 times the rate of whites. In the District of Columbia, blacks are incarcerated at 34 times the rate of whites. Even in Hawaii and Vermont, the states with the smallest racial disparities in incarceration rates, blacks are still incarcerated at more than twice the rate of whites.

    Blacks are incarcerated nationally at a rate of 1,547 per 100,000 black residents. In some states, the black rate of incarceration reaches extraordinary levels (Table 3). In Alaska, Arizona, Connecticut, Delaware, Iowa, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Texas, Wisconsin and the District of Columbia, blacks are incarcerated at rates that exceed 2,000 per 100,000. The lowest incarceration rate for blacks, 570 in North Dakota, exceeds the highest rate for whites, 440 in Arizona.

    These rates of incarceration reflect a marked increase since the late 1980s. Although rates increased for both whites and blacks in most states between 1988 and 1996, the black rate in most states increased more than the white rate. The national black rate of incarceration increased 67 percent, from 922 per 100,000 black residents to 1547, while the white rate increased 28 percent, from 134 to 188 per 100,000 white residents (Table 4). In nine states --Iowa, Kentucky, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, and Wisconsin -- the black rate of incarceration doubled. In another twenty-six states, the rate increased by fifty percent or more. In contrast, the white rate increased by fifty percent in fifteen states; in only two states (South Dakota and Washington) did the white rate double. As a result, the ratio of the rates of black to white incarceration increased from 6.8 to 8.2.

    Rates of Incarceration of Black and White Men

    Since most inmates are adult men, an even more significant measure of the extent of racial disparities in state prison populations and of the sheer magnitude of black incarceration is obtained from comparing the racially disaggregated incarceration rates of men over the age of eighteen.27 In no state are black men incarcerated at rates even close to those of white men (Figure 4). Nationwide, black men are incarcerated at 9.6 times the rate of white men. In eleven states, black men are incarcerated at rates that are twelve to twenty-six times greater than those of white men (Table 5). Thus, in Minnesota, the state with the greatest racial disparity in incarceration, a black man is 26.8 times more likely to be in prison than a white man. In Connecticut, Illinois, Iowa, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, a black man is more than fifteen times more likely to be in prison than a white man. In the District of Columbia, black men are incarcerated at 49 times the rate of white men.

    The rate at which black men are incarcerated is astonishing. There are 4,630 black men in prison nationwide per 100,000 black men in the population, whereas the rate for white men is 482.28 In ten states and the District of Columbia, black men are incarcerated at staggeringly high rates that range from 5,740 to 7,859 per 100,000. In contrast, the range among the ten states with the highest rates of white male incarceration is 620 to 1,151. The highest rate of white male incarceration (1,151) is lower than the lowest rate of black male incarceration (1,195). According to Department of Justice calculations, if current rates of incarceration remain unchanged, 28.5 percent of black men will be confined in prison at least once during their lifetime, a figure six times greater than that for white men.

    Because of their extraordinary rate of incarceration, one in every 20 black men over the age of 18 is in a state or federal prison, compared to one in every 180 whites. In certain states, the incarceration of black men reaches devastating levels: in Oklahoma and Iowa one in every thirteen black men is in state prison; in Rhode Island, Texas and Wisconsin, the figure is one in every fourteen (Table 6).
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    Ok, as a moderator and administrator i have had to read this thread and honestly getting sick of the insults being hurdled.

    Please feel free to debate, Please do not insult one another with name calling as it is a violation of our rules.

    Any continued violations and this thread will be pulled and violators may loose their posting privileges regardless of what side of the argument you are on.

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    For all you fine Christians Conservatives out there that are very concerned and upset about someone being pregnant before marriage and self rightously going on about it and think it is the worst thing that has ever happend and it should never happen...

    You have forgotten that Mary, Jesus Christ's mother was unwed and pregnant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie

    You have forgotten that Mary, Jesus Christ's mother was unwed and pregnant.

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    'Nuff said!
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    When the democrates suggest that republicans are hippocrits concerning sex education is school, why do they think that it is the government, or the schools job to school our kids in sex education? Maybe a stint in biology class, but abstinance only etc. is absurd. I want to teach my kids about sex education and the resposibilities that are involved with sex. Some have said, well, some parents don't teach their kids. Well, isn't that their business. And if they say, well we sometimes end up footing the bill, isn't that the governments fault for creating a nanny state?

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    I warned everyone much earlier in this thread to play nice and I see that I was no heeded so I am locking this thread.

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