Thread: Conservative Dilemma

Originally Posted by danielsummars

I don't think any of the 3 Presidential Candidates are getting my vote.

Originally Posted by agrneydgrl

I will not vote for Mccain. I will write in my candidate, Ron Paul. I will not turn my back on my principles. This handful of candidates scares me do death.

Your chosen course of action makes no sense. You could write in the Roadrunner for the same result. If you are going to pursue action through the political process you must step up and choose an opponent. This place here is a Political Action Committee forum.

But don't worry.
It can't last forever.
Americans won't be as apathetic, complacent, delusional, and lazy when they are jobless, homeless, and hungry.
Thus, there is a natural built-in self-correction mechanism . . .

BS. You're talking about my grandchildren here. Let's correct it now.

Maybe I'm being unfair and you guys are participating in the Founders final remedy, but this place here is political action. Help or get out of the way.

Originally Posted by usanevada

If McCain gets elected it won't be with my vote

I refuse , period

He doesn't represent my views

I'm with you. I'm probably going to vote for the Constitution Party candidate. I'll not let them convince me to stay home. I'm also not going to vote for a socialist, either McCain or a Democrat.

You can go tell the Republican Party that after 20 something years, I'm gone.

If they want me vote back they have to earn it, and they won't earn it by wandering around the internet telling me that McCain is my only choice now.

Conservates Told They Must Throw Away Principles: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-tod ... principles

Originally Posted by loservillelabor

Maybe I'm being unfair and you guys are participating in the Founders final remedy, but this place here is political action. Help or get out of the way.

Voting for one's choice is political action at it's best. Even if that choice is a write-in candidate. The Roadrunner isn't available anyway. Beep Beep

Originally Posted by AngelaTC

You can go tell the Republican Party that after 20 something years, I'm gone.

Right on.

loservillelabor wrote: BS. You're talking about my grandchildren here. Let's correct it now.

Maybe I'm being unfair and you guys are participating in the Founders final remedy, but this place here is political action. Help or get out of the way.

Not B.S. I have children too.

loservillelabor wrote: Help or get out of the way.

Where did you get the idea that I'm doing nothing about it?
Here's just a little bit of what I'm doing about it. I also contribute to NumbersUSA, VictimsOfIllegalAliens.com, and FamilySecurityMatters.org.

loservillelabor wrote: Help or get out of the way.

Perhaps it is those sort of arrogant statements and attitude that are getting in the way; jumping to unfair conclusions, disprespecting others, and telling them to "get out of the way". That most certainly is not the approach to help recruit supporters is it? Do you think that will encourage people to continue to make monetary donations to ALIPAC (as I have)?

What is truly B.S. is refuting the obvious solution, which I wrote in the previous post.

This is part of the solution.
Education is also part of the solution.
The solution will not come about by repeatedly rewarding irresponsible incumbent politicians with 93%-to-99% re-election rates, will it

What is B.S. is also refuting reality.
At any rate, the voters will have the government that they deserve.
So we had all better start doing what we can to educate voters.
And if you want real change, don't just blame politicians, and then blindly pull the party-lever, and repeatedly reward incumbent politicians with 93%-to-99% re-election rates, and then wonder why those politicians continue to be irresponsible and corrupt, and continue to cheat most Americans via these 10+ abuses (which did NOT all come by mere coincidence).

The way I see it either way we lose, so I too am sitting this one out.

Originally Posted by cplob

The way I see it either way we lose, so I too am sitting this one out.

No. There's a better approach than completely sitting out the election. Regardless of who the next president is, go vote out some irresponsible incumbent politicians in Do-Nothing Congress. They are part of the problem too.

Many voters are desperate for CHANGE, but too many voters are looking for a leader to do ALL it for them, while too many voters lazily and foolishly forget (again) that whoever the next president is, the next president will not be likely to CHANGE anything (for the better, that is) when too many voters continue to repeatedly reward most incumbent politicians in Congress with 93%-to-99% re-election rates, despite the majority of voters polled that give Congress dismally low 11%-to-18% approval ratings.

Voters should take a careful look at their Congress persons' voting records too (and their state and local offices too), and try not to blindly pull the party-lever, which rewards bad politicians with perpetual re-election.

Extremely high 93%-to-99% re-election rates for the incumbent politicians in the two-party-duopoly in the Do-Nothing Congress is a major reason for so much government corruption and incompetence.
The president can not fix it alone, if too many voters are too lazily and foolishly focused ONLY on the office of president, and forget to also vote responsibly to give the president a Congress that is responsible and accountable.
Otherwise, Congress will perpetuate these 10+ ABUSES (which did not all come about by mere coincidence) that continue to cheat most Americans.
Perhaps enough voters will notice the obvious correlation (between corrupt incumbent politicians and the majority of voters that repeatedly reward incumbent politicians with very high 93%-to-99% re-election rates) when the abuses perpetuated by those politicians make enough of the voters jobless, homeless, and hungry?
After all, pain is often the only thing that finally trumps apathy, complacency, irrational fear fueled by the clever and distracting partisan warfare, laziness, and blind partisan loyalty.

If voters foolishly and lazily pull the party-lever, and saddle the next president with the same bought-and-paid-for, corrupt, pork-happy, spend-crazy, debt-happy, irresponsible incumbent politicians in Congress, the voters' choice of president, and the election will most likely be a waste of time.

After all, for several years now, no one has been able to name 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, much less 268 (half of the 535) in Congress that are responsible and accountable.
Unless at least 268 can be identified, what does this say about Congress?
So why do the voters continue to repeatedly reward them with 93%-to-99% re-election rates?
Is that working?
What do they say about doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result?

At any rate, the voters will still have the government that the voters deserve.

But don't worry.
It can't last forever.
Americans won't be as apathetic, complacent, delusional, and lazy when they are jobless, homeless, and hungry.
Thus, there is a natural built-in self-correction mechanism . . .

Blah. Blah. Blah. Passive agressive ain't gonna cut it. That's the reality. These are your kids your talking about making wandering migrants of the globe. And there'll be no correction mechanism under the constitution of the NAU and OWG for your minority children.

Originally Posted by loservillelabor

loservillelabor (<-- good handle)
Blah. Blah. Blah. Passive agressive ain't gonna cut it. That's the reality. These are your kids your talking about making wandering migrants of the globe. And there'll be no correction mechanism under the constitution of the NAU and OWG for your minority children.

That comment is asinine for several reasons:

• (1) loser wrote: "Blah Blah Blah". That's some really intelligent dialogue, eh?

• (2) I don't support the NAU or OWG. Where do you get these strange conclusions? Do you think hatefulness directed toward other ALIPAC members is helping ALIPAC?

• (3) I have children too and am working (daily) to make things better? What are you doing? Going around pointlessly insulting other members and visitors to ALIPAC ?

• (4) Calling it "passive agressive" is more hateful nonsense. Who is advocating a passive approach? There is nothing to substantiate these hateful comments whatsoever. My actions are far from passive. My saying that pain will be the end result of lazy and apathetic voters is a warning to voters to stop rewarding bad politicians with perpetual re-election, and look at the politicians voting records on illegal immigration.

• (5) Arguing that "there'll be no correction mechanism" is easy to refute. There will be painful consequenses later if we ignore current problems now growing in number and severity (including illegal immigration, as outlined here on one of my web-pages about illegal immigration). There will be painful consequences if these abuses (including illegal immigration) continue to be ignored. My statement, again, was a warning to give voters some incentive to get out and vote-out bad politicians, because Congress currently enjoys a cu$hy 93%-to-99% re-election rate and that isn't working is it?

But rather than see an ally, some people foolishly choose to attack, bully, and alienate other ALIPAC members?
The empty and asinine rhetoric (e.g. saying "Blah. Blah. Blah. Passive agressive") is common with some people that are unable to address (or understand) the issues, nor have the capacity to admit their mistakes (of unfairly attacking other people), and foolishly choose to make personal attacks on others that are also supporters of ALIPAC and its cause.

The issue here being that voters won't accomplish anything by NOT voting, or by repeatedly rewarding irresponsible incumbent politicians with 93%-to-99% re-election rates (especially those politicians that have lousy report cards on illegal immigration).

loser wrote: These are your kids your talking about making wandering migrants of the globe.

What in the world are you talking about? Are you for perpetuating or stopping illegal immigration? Where do you get the strange idea that I want to make my children wandering migrants? Your comments are incoherent.

Also, the quantity of posts (loser's Posts: 4022) does not really equate to an ALIPAC Super Hero. Quality is important too.