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    Count me in the anit-mclamebrain group because this idiot doesn't deserve and should NEVER be president.
    And seeing as how he will not get the conservative base behind him, I really don't think he has a chance.
    I think chuckabee could more easily be stopped than mclamebrain.

    Hillary can be stopped, but I'm not sure that mccain can be if he gets the captain's chair.
    Mccain is no friend to anyone. He forgot why and who elected him years ago, just as many of the incumbents have done.

    To my last dying breath I will fight this arrogant pig-headed ted kennedy la raza hugging traitor!
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    They will go away because after they are done there will be no economy left because of their increase in taxes that they have planned. McCain is neither a Republican or a conservitive He is a Liberal in the truest since of the word so it doesn't matter who wins we lose.
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    Well written. However the Congress will play a role in the next administration, as well as the Judicial. All is hardly lost. Either party is going to make some head-way in directions that half of the voting public will not like. Conservitives in MHO seem to be at the short end of the stick most of the time.

    GW had it all. Executive and Congress (conservitives, right?) What was accomplished? Tax breaks, and Judicial appointments. Fact it is, many people (conservitives) are waking up and realizing that their "conservitive" politicians only want to hear from them at election time.

    Remember the "contract with America?" Corruption and scandal is all we got, uh, gun control also. Thrown under the bus. How many times will the party have to throw the base under the bus before the base says, "Damn that hurts!"

    Been playing this game to long. Social libs keep marching forward, step by step, conservitives.......keep getting abandoned. Its a brave new world and the old farts have got to go! Out with the old, in with the new.

    Sorta like throwing good money after bad........how long can you afford to. The stock market works on two emotions, fear and greed. Let those two emotions run ya helter skelter and........well recipe for disaster. Remind you of any politicians you might know.

    If either party were to lose half of it's seats tommorrow, do you really think America would "go to hell in a hand basket" overnite? What would the other half be thinking? Damn, sure did piss off the folks outside this chummy, corruptable, greedy, accomodating, self agrandizing, morally stagnant, and repugnent beltway. Perhaps I should do the people's work?

    Throw them under the bus! If they are on the ground, kick in the guts. If they need help crossing the street, trip them half way across.

    Remember Linda Thompson? A lawyer from Indianapolis who with the help of the militias and 2nd Ammendment supporters wanted to go to Washington and sweep out the halls of Congress. That was during the middle 90's. Congessmen have not forgotten. They do not like their conservitives, they will change the demographics to reflect a "kinder, gentler" conservitism. If they get rid of the bus, conservitives will no longer have a bus to throw them under.

    Looks like a write in canidate for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roundabout
    f either party were to lose half of it's seats tommorrow, do you really think America would "go to hell in a hand basket" overnite? What would the other half be thinking? Damn, sure did piss off the folks outside this chummy, corruptable, greedy, accomodating, self agrandizing, morally stagnant, and repugnent beltway. Perhaps I should do the people's work?
    Well the party that loses certainly will have cause to reflect, while the other side will claim mandate and bulldoze through. Right now it looks like we'll be the losers, and mark my words i don't trust McCain for a second. GW will have been a cake walk compared to him. Every step of the way will we have to fight to keep him in line. But we will be in the position of being heard and listened to a whole lot more than if we are the out of power losers trying to fight the media frenzy and the socialist designs of President Hillbama. The damage they will do our nation will be permanent and irreversible.

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    Hey jacques, No fear! It takes away from my cheery personality.

    Just practice with some sandbags, throw them off from the back of your pick-up. See, it ain't hard.

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    Do you think McCain will listen to the voters if he becomes President? Really? The fight will be in Congress. If McCain wins do you see him seeking a 2nd term at his age? Can you say, "Katy bar the doors"? McCain will do what ever he has on his agenda. Did you see him back down at the immigration reform debate. Have you ever seen him back down? You have to give this guy credit where credit is due,,,,,,,when he makes up his mind to do something, he's gonna do it, no matter where the chips fly! Is this the guy you plan on putting on a leash? Grab hold dude, thats a mighty big puppy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roundabout
    Do you think McCain will listen to the voters if he becomes President? Really? The fight will be in Congress. If McCain wins do you see him seeking a 2nd term at his age? Can you say, "Katy bar the doors"? McCain will do what ever he has on his agenda. Did you see him back down at the immigration reform debate. Have you ever seen him back down? You have to give this guy credit where credit is due,,,,,,,when he makes up his mind to do something, he's gonna do it, no matter where the chips fly! Is this the guy you plan on putting on a leash? Grab hold dude, thats a mighty big puppy.
    I have no illusion that McCain will be anything but trouble. At this point in time, McLame is still more preferable than the Hillbama option AS LONG AS we keep on the attack every step of the way. A Hillbama election will be seen as a mandate for the socialist and amnesty agenda. Conservatives will be so marginalized that they won't even get a voice in happens. For example in NY just see how much clout a Republican currently has in NY talking to Shumer, Clinton, Bishop and other Dems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacques_usa
    I have no illusion that McCain will be anything but trouble. At this point in time, McLame is still more preferable than the Hillbama option AS LONG AS we keep on the attack every step of the way. A Hillbama election will be seen as a mandate for the socialist and amnesty agenda. Conservatives will be so marginalized that they won't even get a voice in happens. For example in NY just see how much clout a Republican currently has in NY talking to Shumer, Clinton, Bishop and other Dems.
    Its not Hillabama, its McClintobama.

    Nobody is going to vote for McShame here. Been there, done that with Bush. He is every bit as pro-amnesty as Hillary and Barack. He is useless to this site. The harder he bites the dust, the better it is for the emergence of a third party, and a real voice for patriots. Not the amnesty pushers that the globalist, Chamber of Commerce funded Republicans put in front of us.

    Voting for McShame perpetuates the evil existence of the Republicrats.
    Serve Bush with his letter of resignation.

    See you at the signing!!

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    I find this statement so true:

    "Once these changes have become law they will never be repealed. We will only sink deeper into the mud, pleading with elected officials to save us from the problems they created"

    Very well thought through and written. AND WELCOME TO ALIPAC.


    It is certainly a dilemma. Like Newt Gingrich at CPAC said the other day, "I would rather fight McCain 20% of the time than fight the others 90% of the time."

    If you think we're tired now, just wait.

    I noticed in the press conference today when the House leader endorsed McCain, McCain said, "they had a very spirited discussion." I think the House conservatives took him to task on immigration, taxes and such. Because this little speech was about bringing the party together.
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    Conservatives will be so marginalized that they won't even get a voice in happens. For example in NY just see how much clout a Republican currently has in NY talking to Shumer, Clinton, Bishop and other Dems.
    This guy is correct. You folks that actually make your calls to the Congressional offices know damn well there's a big difference between Republican's and Democrat's responses in most instances

    Hey, I've been here for a while and understand that we're being asked to choose between three turds. Somehow we have to study them, discriminate, and make a choice. The Third party is a ways off.
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