Thread: Imus cannot be compared with rappers.

Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost

HERE are some of those "real" lyrics that "dyehard" is defending so passionately. **Not for the fainthearted!**

Well, dyehard, how do you defend these lyrics in context? I can find hundreds of rap songs with equally offensive and indefensible lyrics, but I guess you'll continue to defend them as art just as you defend Islamic extremism as religious expression.

I ask again, [quote:q0uingyp]what the hell are you doing at this site

other than defending the indefensible and taking unjustified jabs at the dominant culture?

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Just being fair. Something you are not willing to do. DO NOT LISTEN TO RAPPERS. I DON'T.

Double standards? You got that right. White people can produce movies that are XXX rated, even pornographic, with all the same language that black rappers and comedians use plus show them on television, even use children in some of them and make lots of money. No one complains. Is is because blacks are making money also? All you have to do is not watch them and rappers music ,you do not have to listen to. If you want rappers and comedians to stop using the language you have to want movies producers and actors stop the XXX rated movies. I don’t listen to rappers music and I don’t watch XXX rated movies. But I do watch some of the news channels and do not want to hear racist language while I expect the news. Imus is no comedian. If he is the last laugh is on him.,It is hard to find a movie that do not have explicit sex scenes and four letter words. For instance, “Little Miss Sunshine” is one of my favorite movies that I watched with my grandchildren and the child won an award. Now that is disgusting. I hear no complaints. Rappers do not use childern in their songs or their videos. And I doubt if they have as much influence as you seem to believe. Now real serial killer and child preditors do.
I do not like any of them and do not support any of them. Just be fair.

Crocket...you are a funny guy!! Maybe Dirty can go to the ASPCA, maybe they will have what he is looking for.

Dyehard...not sure if the "big" reference was directed to me or Crocket, but I do know that there are a lot of people in this world who are willing to say or do the wrong thing to make a buck. I don't care what their color is, it is not right. I do feel, however, that there should not be a double standard. What is right for one, should be right for all. If Imus is in trouble, then all of the rappers should be too.

My song was just for fun, and not intended to harm anyone.

Originally Posted by Neese

How can a man lose his job over a stupid comment, when society condones, allows and encourages murder, crime, rape and drugs?

Why isn't Mr Sharpton worried about the girl who falsley accused the Duke Lacrosse team of rape? Where is their apology? Why isn't she suffering any consequences? I believe the coach was forced to resign. Why isn't the black community outraged about that? [/quote

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There are stupid comments and their are racist comments. You have to know there is a difference.
What does Sharpton have to apologize for? He did not bring the civil case against the team, a white man did. Go ahead and blame the black man for every thing. He is just guilty of being black. Sharpton do not represent black people. He is on his own. Sharpton is not even in the picture.

C'mon dyehard, now you're going to bring X-rated movies into this?

Sometimes your diatribes lead me to believe that you're off your meds or something.

Filth is filth, regardless of its source. To condemn some and condone some simply because of its source is hypocritical and short-sighted. You really should try looking at the bigger picture, or is the further Balkanization of America something that you desire?

Originally Posted by dyehard39

Originally Posted by Neese

How can a man lose his job over a stupid comment, when society condones, allows and encourages murder, crime, rape and drugs?

Why isn't Mr Sharpton worried about the girl who falsley accused the Duke Lacrosse team of rape? Where is their apology? Why isn't she suffering any consequences? I believe the coach was forced to resign. Why isn't the black community outraged about that? [/quote

]

There are stupid comments and their are racist comments. You have to know there is a difference.
What does Sharpton have to apologize for? He did not bring the civil case against the team, a white man did. Go ahead and blame the black man for every thing. He is just guilty of being black. Sharpton do not represent black people. He is on his own. Sharpton is not even in the picture.

You can't be serious!

Sharpton has caused terrible, HORRIBLE, RACIST problems from the Tawana Brawley LIE to present day. He's nothing but a liar, cheat, racist pig and doesn't give a damn about the black people who follow him.

I can't even believe you said that. There is just so much wrong with your statements and the skewed 'facts' you attempt to submit.

Sharpton was involved in CAUSING the riots that murdered people in cold blood!! He was directly involved in the Crown Heights murder with Yankl Rosenbaum.

You want only those you don't like to be censored! That's discriminatory at the very least if not racist!

I don't give a flying fig if you're black, white, red or purple spots.
Most of what you write is off the wall, unfair and discriminatory with NO solid facts to support your information.

Originally Posted by dyehard39

Originally Posted by Neese

How can a man lose his job over a stupid comment, when society condones, allows and encourages murder, crime, rape and drugs?

Why isn't Mr Sharpton worried about the girl who falsley accused the Duke Lacrosse team of rape? Where is their apology? Why isn't she suffering any consequences? I believe the coach was forced to resign. Why isn't the black community outraged about that? [/quote

]

There are stupid comments and their are racist comments. You have to know there is a difference.
What does Sharpton have to apologize for? He did not bring the civil case against the team, a white man did. Go ahead and blame the black man for every thing. He is just guilty of being black. Sharpton do not represent black people. He is on his own. Sharpton is not even in the picture.

The point is that Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson love to jump to the aid of any racial issue if they think that it will get them some publicity, and they can cry racism.

Yet, they fail to ENCOURAGE the black community to do what is right. Why get involved in one issue, if you aren't willing to assist in another? Do they think that we are blind? We know what is going on.

How about Bill Cosby? He was trying to point out that there are some serious issues going on in the black community, and he himself was criticized for it.

Tolerance is a terrible thing (as we well know, with the whole illegal immigration problem), and it should not be tolerated. The term "racism" is overly used, and is now obsolete. What if white people did the same types of things, and started screaming racism? It is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis

Originally Posted by dyehard39

Originally Posted by Neese

How can a man lose his job over a stupid comment, when society condones, allows and encourages murder, crime, rape and drugs?

Why isn't Mr Sharpton worried about the girl who falsley accused the Duke Lacrosse team of rape? Where is their apology? Why isn't she suffering any consequences? I believe the coach was forced to resign. Why isn't the black community outraged about that? [/quote

]

There are stupid comments and their are racist comments. You have to know there is a difference.
What does Sharpton have to apologize for? He did not bring the civil case against the team, a white man did. Go ahead and blame the black man for every thing. He is just guilty of being black. Sharpton do not represent black people. He is on his own. Sharpton is not even in the picture.

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You can't be serious!

Sharpton has caused terrible, HORRIBLE, RACIST problems from the Tawana Brawley LIE to present day. He's nothing but a liar, cheat, racist pig and doesn't give a damn about the black people who follow him.I can't even believe you said that. There is just so much wrong with your statements and the skewed 'facts' you attempt to submit.

Sharpton was involved in CAUSING the riots that murdered people in cold blood!! He was directly involved in the Crown Heights murder with Yankl Rosenbaum.

You want only those you don't like to be censored! That's discriminatory at the very least if not racist!

I don't give a flying fig if you're black, white, red or purple spots.
Most of what you write is off the wall, unfair and discriminatory with NO solid facts to support your information.

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Facts are right in front of you, but you refuse to see them. Sharpton do not have any followers. There are double standards when it come to black entertainers and movies and actors that play in then. If you do not see the difference in rappers, comedians and stupid remards and racist remarks, you have a problem.
I do not think any should be censored. Watch and listen to what you want to. But when I am watching the news, I want to hear news and not racist trying to be comedians. There is a difference between stupid remarks and racist marks. All I am asking is to be fair whether its rappers, comedians or movies and they are not al x rated. "Little miss sunshine" was not x rated.
Nappy headed ho was a racist comment and not a stupid remark. If is was stupid, why did not apologize? You do not have to apologize for stupid remarks.

Originally Posted by dyehard39

Sharpton do not have any followers.

That's the single most naive comment from you yet!

There are double standards when it come to black entertainers and movies and actors that play in then. If you do not see the difference in rappers, comedians and stupid remards and racist remarks, you have a problem.

The same words are 'stupid' from one group and 'racist' from another. There's that double-standard again.

I do not think any should be censored.

That's NOT what you've said repeatedly in this thread.

Watch and listen to what you want to. But when I am watching the new, I want to hear news and not racist trying to be comedians.

Imus is NOT a news anchor, he's a radio talk show host.

There is a difference between stupid remarks and racist marks.

According to you the difference is in the color of the skin of the owner of the mouth that utters them.

All I am asking is to be fair whether its rappers, comedians or movies and they are not al x rated. "Little miss sunshine" was not x rated.

That's what we're asking, too. As far as movies go, I don't watch them much and have no idea what 'Little Miss Sunshine' is.

Originally Posted by Neese

Originally Posted by dyehard39

Originally Posted by Neese

How can a man lose his job over a stupid comment, when society condones, allows and encourages murder, crime, rape and drugs?

Why isn't Mr Sharpton worried about the girl who falsley accused the Duke Lacrosse team of rape? Where is their apology? Why isn't she suffering any consequences? I believe the coach was forced to resign. Why isn't the black community outraged about that? [/quote

]

There are stupid comments and their are racist comments. You have to know there is a difference.
What does Sharpton have to apologize for? He did not bring the civil case against the team, a white man did. Go ahead and blame the black man for every thing. He is just guilty of being black. Sharpton do not represent black people. He is on his own. Sharpton is not even in the picture.

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The point is that Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson love to jump to the aid of any racial issue if they think that it will get them some publicity, and they can cry racism.

You do not know this to be a fact. What if they do jump to the aid of racial issues. Who else is going to do it?

Yet, they fail to ENCOURAGE the black community to do what is right. Why get involved in one issue, if you aren't willing to assist in another? Do they think that we are blind? We know what is going on.

And what is the right thing to do?Ignore it and hope it goes away. Racism is still alive and well even in 2007.

How about Bill Cosby? He was trying to point out that there are some serious issues going on in the black community, and he himself was criticized for it.

BIll Cosby cannot afford to talk when he make million off Fat Albert. Cosby knows nothing about being a black man growing up around hos, pimps, gangs and drug dealers.
Tolerance is a terrible thing (as we well know, with the whole illegal immigration problem), and it should not be tolerated. The term "racism" is overly used, and is now obsolete. What if white people did the same types of things, and started screaming racism? It is ridiculous.

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Racism is not obsolute and not over used. I do not know where you live that racism do not exist.

Revel in your victimhood, dyehard.