Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

Interestingly enough, the first reference is my doc up on Scribd dubbed: Leo Donofrio - Quo Warranto expanded.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23227876/Leo- ... o-expanded

We should be surprised? You have many good posts, because you are diligent, focused, motivated, and well-spoken.

Thanks, MinuteMan. I was told yesterday by an online attorney that I just don't understand the law. I confirmed his opinion of me by admitting that I am dumber than a post. Made him happy, I'm sure.

Good words are always appreciated. Thanks again.

Sarah Palin Goes 'Birther': Obama Birth Certificate 'A Fair Question' (VIDEO)

Sarah Palin declared on Thursday that the legitimacy of President Obama's birth certificate is "rightfully" an issue with the American public, and that it is "fair game" for politicians to question Obama's citizenship.

The comments came during an interview with conservative radio host Rusty Humphries, who asked Palin whether she planned to "make the birth certificate an issue" if she runs for president in 2012.

"I think the public rightfully is still making it an issue," Palin said. "I don't have a problem with that. I don't know if I would have to bother to make it an issue, because I think that members of the electorate still want answers."

Humphries -- who began the interview with a rendition of the song "Sarah, Queen Of The Wild Frontier" -- followed up: "Do you think it's a fair question to be looking at?"

"I think it's a fair question just like I think past associations and past voting records. All of that is fair game," Palin responded, adding that "the McCain-Palin campaign didn't do a good enough job in that area. We didn't call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were, and perhaps what their future plans were, and I don't think that was fair to voters to not have done our job as candidates and a campaign to bring to light a lot of things that now we're seeing manifest in the administration."

Palin later referenced "that weird conspiracy theory freaky thing that people talk about that Trig isn't my real son, and a lot of people that went 'Well, you need to produce his birth certificate, you need to prove that he's your kid,' which we have done, but yeah, so maybe we can reverse that, and use the same [inaudible] thinking on the other one."

UPDATE: At 1:16 AM ET, Palin posted the following on her Facebook page:

Stupid Conspiracies


Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I've pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask... which they have repeatedly. But at no point - not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews - have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States.

FactCheck.org has done the most comprehensive debunking of the various conspiracy theories related to Obama's citizenship. Here is their bottom line:

In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."


We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/0 ... 79634.html

12/7/09 6:33pm - No news from Madisonville, TN, about Commander Fitzpatrick's petition
to the Monroe County grand jury to indict Mr. Obama for treason.

Several days after a visit by two Secret Service agents and two DHS law enforcement officers,
the Rev. James David Manning of http://www.atlah.org has been "suspended" from YouTube.

Originally Posted by 93camaro

Sarah Palin Goes 'Birther': Obama Birth Certificate 'A Fair Question' (VIDEO)

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/0 ... 79634.html

I would not expect Huffington and Factcheck to give fair reviews of the eligibility subject matter or Sarah Palin's comments.

For example, another 'serious' article on Huff's site indicated that Palin left Hawaii because of the Asian influence. Really?

Quote:
"But Palin's father, Chuck Heath, gave a different account to Conroy and Walshe. According to him, the presence of so many Asians and Pacific Islanders made her uncomfortable: "They were a minority type thing and it wasn't glamorous, so she came home." In any case, Palin reports that she much preferred her last stop, the University of Idaho, "because it was much like Alaska yet still 'Outside.' ""

This is how character assassinations get started. The big joke is that the Asians are already hugely prejudiced against other nationalities and races as described in "The Asian Mind Game" by Chin-Ning Chu, and so I'm not certain how effective this bogus Huff message will get across to the Asians.

It's all liberal crap.

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

12/7/09 6:33pm - No news from Madisonville, TN, about Commander Fitzpatrick's petition
to the Monroe County grand jury to indict Mr. Obama for treason.

Several days after a visit by two Secret Service agents and two DHS law enforcement officers,
the Rev. James David Manning of http://www.atlah.org has been "suspended" from YouTube.

Pat Condell was also banned from YouTube for his comments on the Islamist problem in the UK and in Europe, but he's back. Apparently too many viewers complained. Maybe we'll see the good reverend again soon.

Post script:

He's back, with comments about his having been banned five times from YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ATLAHWorldwide

with a whole bunch of clients!

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-7715 ... -and-Obama

Cars, quo warranto, and Obama

With so many lawsuits filed every day in America, one more might seem irrelevant. There is one however that should be watched, but will most likely escape notice. For a little while at any rate…


Last summer, hundreds of Chrysler and GM Dealers lost their franchises in the Chrysler bankruptcy sale. Many of those dealers vowed to fight what they saw as a heavy miscarriage of justice. It was simply un-American, and shocking to find that something like this could happen here, that the government could take over a private business, and then take that business away from hundreds of private dealerships. Many of those dealers had profitable businesses; in some cases those businesses had been run by families successfully for 50 years, in some cases more.


Neil Cavuto welcomed former Chrysler dealer James Anderer to his show on Fox Business News Daily to talk about a case that has been filed by a group of dealers who lost their businesses in the Washington D.C. District Court. (Update: Cavuto's show was guest hosted by Charles Payne who did the interview) Lead Plaintiff Anderer mentioned a team of legal experts while describing the case to Cavuto, and an anonymous source has named Leo Donofrio and Steve Pidgeon as having been retained by a group of Chrysler dealers who lost their franchise in the Chrysler bankruptcy sale. They have been retained to bring two actions:

1. A motion to reconsider the Court's approval of the dealer rejections.
2. A quo warranto in the D.C. District Court pertaining to Obama and his administration.

The Bankruptcy case will be brought in the Southern district of New York Bankruptcy Court, the Quo Warranto will be brought in the Washington D.C. District court, the only court in the nation where a Quo Warranto can be filed against a sitting President.

This case may initially slide under the MSM radar; however, it may be the single most serious case to be brought against The Obama Administration and the President himself to date.





It's probably why he stopped blogging and also blocked off the old articles. No need to share the strategy with opposing counsel?

Originally Posted by FreedomFirst

with a whole bunch of clients!

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-7715 ... -and-Obama

Cars, quo warranto, and Obama



It's probably why he stopped blogging and also blocked off the old articles. No need to share the strategy with opposing counsel?

Leo is a pretty high exposure target, and I would think the Obamabots already have a copy of everything he has ever published. He also hasn't been very reserved in his own comments... or maybe he has, and we just thought he was open... Ah, the age of deceit... what would we do without deceit and conspiracy? No new books?

This will be a really great case to follow.

Originally Posted by The Examiner

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-7715-Portland-Civil-Rights-Examiner~
y2009m12d5-Cars-quo-warranto-and-Obama

The Bankruptcy case will be brought in the Southern district of New York Bankruptcy Court, the Quo Warranto will be brought in the Washington D.C. District court, the only court in the nation where a Quo Warranto can be filed against a sitting President.

• [How can we say that a Quo Warranto "will be brought" in the D.C. District Court?
  Orly Taitz attempted to bring a QW, but AG Holder sat on the plaint and didn't let it proceed.]

This case may initially slide under the MSM radar; however, it may be the single most serious case to be brought against The Obama Administration and the President himself to date.

Praise the Lord! And OOOOH-RAH!

Leo Donofrio and Steve Pidgeon together at one venue, backed by auto franchise ex-owners with DEEP POCKETS!

This looks like the main event! Where can we get advance tickets?

Originally Posted by CCUSA

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=117857


The military's moral dilemma
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Posted: December 04, 2009
1:00 am Eastern


By Herman Welch
© 2009


If President Obama wants any credibility among our warfighters, he must perform an "about face" and show himself as an example to follow.

Why was there noticeable awkwardness and silence when the president addressed our future officers at the United States Military Academy? Maybe our warriors are looking for a commander who is on the same leadership journey they are, but, the best that they try, they can't make the connection – because he doesn't share their experience or understand the character of their calling.

Today, all American citizens and legal immigrants volunteering to serve in our Armed Forces must first present their original birth certificate, naturalization certificate or alien registration card along with other required marriage, medical and education documents when applying. Next, they complete, in transparent detail, their personal history in a National Security Questionnaire. Finally, they sign both general and medical release of information authority over to the military. These volunteers are vulnerable to the scrutiny of police record checks and further security investigations. Lying, to include nondisclosure, is a felony. Military recruiters then set off to gather any and every necessary document to qualify our youth to serve in their elected branch of our armed services.

After joining and completing initial training, many new service members deploy to war; some don't return. Very few others, but some, will be discharged for lying on enlistment records. Others will be denied security clearances or have them revoked for reasons of false or misleading information or criminal conduct. Military commanders address these types of offenses within their command authority and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Whether a three-year enlistment or 30-year career, service members live under military authority and law their entire time in service.

Moments of self-inflicted discomfort preside when President Obama is around those in the military. The reason: Many in uniform look up and honestly ask how their commander in chief passed muster to serve at the head of their ranks by averting reliable disclosure of very basic entry-level documentation and screening.

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There are no conspiracy theories. No politics. Military service members strongly desire that their highest leader inspires with unshakeable candor and decisive competence. Soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines understand the accountability required of them for the honor of wearing their uniforms and reasonably expect the same from their CinC.

The president chose not to set an example by evading legitimate congressional verification of his eligibility to run for the office he now holds, especially when facts surrounding his candidacy call many legitimate eligibility and character issues into question. Nondisclosure of the president's education, medical, passport and other records raises far more questions than provides answers. Why are documents related to relevant questions withheld from many lawful public requests for inspection, and why is every attempt for court rulings silenced? Furthermore, the president has not released the first document presented by the overwhelming majority of our children when they join the military – a full birth certificate. This behavior is alien to military culture.

Where was he born? How does anyone honestly know?

Obama's campaign, his family and other media sources each cited his birth at Queen's Medical Center, Hawaii, until that claim was investigated and the assertions dropped. Then-Sen. Obama next published an official short-form record alluding to his birth being at Kapi'olani Hospital, Hawaii. Interestingly, Hawaiian residents born the day after him in 1961, at the same hospital – and who were his school classmates – have had their full birth certificates publicly revealed. Hawaii government officials have verified the president's birth but cannot release his documents for reasons of privacy. Yet Hawaii state personal records are easily and legally acquired by civilian lawyers and military recruiters on behalf of others quite frequently.

Is the president a U.S. Citizen? Probably. Is the president a natural-born citizen? Possibly. Is the president setting an example our military can follow? No.

In the U.S. Military, the burden of proof for establishing all qualifications rests with the applicant. The Defense Department has a tangible interest and legal standing to indisputably verify the character, health and background of all who serve in it. When questions arise during the accessions process, greater disclosure is mandated and further investigation required.

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Seventeen-year-old military enlistees easily and quickly provide their original full citizenship verification documents when asked. Why can't a grown man, former senator and current president do the same? What is he hiding? It is the president who has created the integrity and trust gap between himself and our service members fighting our wars.

City hall records departments, hospitals, universities and agencies in various states will release President Obama's records if he signs a release of information to do so. Strange that everyone serving in our nation's defense has no choice but to sign full releases regarding their private information – but the president exempts himself.

During the four years of this administration, military recruiters will sadly deny many living in America the right to serve in our Armed Forces due to valid disqualifications. Likewise, military commanders and courts will punish, and sometimes imprison, service members due to misleading and criminal behavior. Yet honor, integrity, courage and selfless service will still be the high calling of all attending our military academies, ROTC programs and basic-training centers.

The very cadets looking up at the president as he spoke at West Point will one day take command. They will be leaders exercising the president's authority in justice over infractions of their own soldiers.

How can we effectively maintain military morale and discipline when our service members look all the way up through the chain of command – and the man at the top of that list will not step on the road of transparency, accountability and integrity they each must walk on and possibly give their lives on?




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Herman Welch is a 28-year veteran of the U.S. Army who resides in Hawaii. The views expressed in this article are those of the author and are not the official views of the Department of Defense.

Great article CC! It's a wonder how any of our military could serve this usurper POTUS and be able to sleep at night.

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

12/7/09 6:33pm - No news from Madisonville, TN, about Commander Fitzpatrick's petition
to the Monroe County grand jury to indict Mr. Obama for treason.

Several days after a visit by two Secret Service agents and two DHS law enforcement officers,
the Rev. James David Manning of http://www.atlah.org has been "suspended" from YouTube.

Minuteman, Manning has a very good video on Obama at:

http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=1998

He believes that we are being deliberately distracted by the Tea Parties, etc. This man may sound crazy to some but I believe that he just might be a genius.