Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

The birth certificate debate – it's not over
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=296293

The "9" marks in pencil are accountant's tick marks, which signify that data has been verified or validated, or that a numerical total has been rechecked. You can find nearly identical tick marks on the margins of any bookkeeper's general ledger pages. Some prefer to make the "9" marks more like the eighth rest in sheet music.

Someone help me on what is the significance of the penciled "2" marks, which rather resemble a lower case "Γ" or Greek "gamma".

I don't think the "x" marks have any special meaning.

Campaign fraud, Illegal foreign contributions, RICO, Social Security fraud, Natural born citizen

A safe bet on Obama’s future?

- Online By Don Fredrick
Sunday, May 8, 2011

In the course of maintaining The Obama Timeline http://www.colony14.net/ I get my share of emails denouncing my efforts, most of which fall along the lines of, “You’re a Nazi and a racist and your mother should have aborted you!â€

Originally Posted by At WorldNetDaily.com, H.P. Rifle Comp.

Can the private detective [Takeyuki Irei] proove his claim [that the Certificate of 4/27/11 is counterfeit]? If not,we have bigger problems, I.E. al-Qeada retaliation.

HPRCo, rest assured that any al Qaeda retaliation will be directed at anyone else besides Is|am's man in the White House. Mr. Obama has done more damage to the U.S. in 2½ years than Osama bin Laden did in his lifetime. The biggest difference is that Mr. Obama continues to terrorize Americans with fear for their lives, their livelihoods, their homes, their families, their finances, and their freedom.

Can any of you, even you Obots, honestly say that you have never worried over the impact on your own life from:

• Mr. Obama's anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Israel, anti-Jew, anti-traditional-values radical agenda;
  
  a radical agenda backed by the Mus|im Mafia and bankrolled by Is|amist oil money;
  
  a radical agenda steeped in the ideology of Marx, Lenin, and Stalin, Mao, Ché Guevara, and Franz Fanon, Leon Trotsky and Saul Alinsky; and
  
  a radical agenda in which co-conspired fellow travelers Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod, Donald C. Rose, and Marc Canter (son of CPUSA member David S. Canter), CPUSA member Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, and Bernardine Dohrn, Cass Sunstein and Samantha Power, Rosa Brooks, Carol Browder, John Holdren, and Van Jones, ACORN, SEIU, and former members of Students for a Democratic Society who became members of the Democratic Socialists of America?

Originally Posted by [url=http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=295749

For WorldNetDaily.com, Brenda J. Elliott[/url]]'Nothing on file' to document Obama’s citizenship

... immigration authorities exchanged queries about Obama, with one noting questions about Obama's citizenship.

One critical exchange is dated August 21, 1967, from Sam Benson, an officer at the Southwest Immigration and Naturalization Service office in San Pedro, Calif.

Benson's query stated, "There is nothing in the file to document the status of the spouse's son. Please inquire into his citizenship and residence status and determine whether or not he is the applicant's child within the meaning of Section 101(b)(1)(B) of the Act, who may suffer exceptional hardship within the meaning of Section 212(a)."

The reference is to the Immigration and Naturalization Act, which defined a "child" as an unmarried person under 21 years of age who, among other qualifiers, could be a "stepchild," whether or not born out of wedlock, provided the child had not reached the "age of eighteen years at the time the marriage creating the status of stepchild occurred."

A response to Benson's inquiry came from one "W.L. Mix" of the central immigration office, who determined Obama was a U.S. citizen.

Mix replied: "Pursuant to inquiry from central office regarding the status of the applicants' spouse's child by a former marriage."

"The person in question is a United States citizen by virtue of his birth in Honolulu, Hawaii, Aug. 4, 1961. He is living with the applicants' spouse in Honolulu, Hawaii. He is considered the applicant's step-child, within the meaning of Sec. 101(b)(1)(B), of the act, by virtue of the marriage of the applicant to the child's mother on March 5, 1965."

The files do not state how the office determined Obama was born in Honolulu.

With research by Brenda J. Elliott (co-author of The Manchurian President)

Is W.L. Mix or Sam Benson still alive and able to recall how Barack Obama II's birthplace was determined?

I have been on this issue way before the election. I find 2 things interesting.



1. No one can explain who or what is truly responsible for vetting? (And will it be clarified before the next election?) But one thing for sure...Pelosi lied on the DNC and should be charged.



2. In law (that I have studied) it is "known or should have known" and so on. The terms for Native Natural and Citizen defines Natural by defining all the other forms. So to me...by omission of all the others the obvious is all that is left. And of course the intent of the founders to protect from foreigners holding the high office of POTUS (like a Muslim).



Great article 7. I am sending it to my friends. Thanks.

Trumping up the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama

The unraveling of Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama II

- Doug Hagmann & Joseph Hagmann
Friday, April 8, 2011
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To those who are now speaking out about the Obama eligibility matter, I can think of no better statement than the one uttered by a very frustrated Officer John McClane, played by Bruce Willis in the movie“Die Hard.â€

[quote="Doug Hagmann & Joseph Hagmann"][size=117]As we have been investigating this matter for some time (see our investigative report 1 and report 2 in PDF format for important background information), it has become apparent that at some point, the individual known as Barry SOETORO began using the name Barack Hussein Obama II. Based on our investigative findings, it was at about this same time period that the Connecticut issuance of the social security number appeared and became “attachedâ€

Was just in grocery store yesterday and noticed a tabloid with the headline about Obama being ineligible. Was an eye catching article. Remember John Edwards?

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

Was just in grocery store yesterday and noticed a tabloid with the headline about Obama being ineligible. Was an eye catching article. Remember John Edwards?

It would be interesting to find out what threats the publisher received before the tabloid was released, and from whom.

The conundrum of removing Obama/Soetoro from office



By: Devvy
May 11, 2011
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The anti-truth "mainstream" media (newspapers, Internet and boob tube) as well as cable tv anchor hosts like shallow Sean Hannity, Beck and O'Reilly, smugly believe the issue Obama/Soetoro's dual citizenship is somehow going to go away based on the release of "the" birth certificate, April 27, 2011, by the usurper in the White House. Wishful thinking for all of them who have no regard for the U.S. Constitution and the right of the American people to know whether or not a presidential candidate is legally eligible to run.

Despite all the ballyhoo on the networks, radio and Internet about the "new" long form birth certificate being end of discussion, none of those bastions of the truth from anchors on ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, all the web sites and of course, the "fair and balanced" FOX News Network, has touched the issue of the latest document being an obvious forgery.

The problem with Obama/Soetoro's citizenship has now festered to the near breaking point. A boil oozing puss and a putrid stench that will have to be addressed in the near future. Had the gutless cowards in the Outlaw Congress done their solemn duty, January 9, 2009, and stopped the electoral college vote then and there, we would not be here today. No presidential candidate who was in Congress that day will ever get my vote because he/she didn't have the courage to stand up and begin the process of stopping the vote and proceeding with an investigation for a massive controversy all of them knew was burning across this country. That includes my congressman when he runs again in 2012, who sat there like a stuffed dummy.

Setting aside the issue of the birth certificate as far as where little bouncing Barry (Soetoro) was actually born, the only legal issue is his father's citizenship at the time Obama, Sr's progeny was brought into this world. Barry has now produced the "real" birth certificate listing Barack Obama, Sr., as the biological father, so he's stuck with it. Obama, Sr., was a Kenyan national visiting the U.S., he was not a U.S. citizen. In 1961, Kenya was still a British Colony making Obama, Sr. a subject of that commonwealth. Obama, Jr. was automatically a British citizen under the British Nationality Act of 1948. Thus, he is forever ineligible to be president of these united States of America.

But, how would you remove Obama/Soetoro from office?

I am not a lawyer and I have no legal training, but I have read every court case and posting by attorney's involved in the lawsuits over Barry's ineligibility. This is by no means a simple case of impeachment because you cannot impeach a usurper. I have not and will not support any petitions or efforts to impeach Obama/Soetoro because it would set a horrible legal precedent. As Nancy Pelosi made it very clear when the Democrats took power away from the Republicans there would be no impeachment of Bush, the same applies with the Republicans and Obama/Soetoro:

"If Republicans take control of the House, there is "not a chance at this point" that they will try to impeach President Obama, a top Republican lawmaker said this week. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), who would helm the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee if the GOP wins on Election Day, said that his party will not try to bring impeachment charges simply because it disagrees with the president."

Bush was worth far more political currency to the Democrats if left in office and the same applies to the Republicans regarding Barry. He's also a cash cow for talk radio and nightly gab fests on cable tv.

If we are going to adhere to the law, then as painful as it might be, you have to understand what a usurper means: to seize and hold (a position, office, power, etc.) by force or without legal right: The pretender tried to usurp the throne.

No matter how frustrated and enraged we are about the actions of that empty suit sullying the people's house, to give legitimacy to his presidency would allow all the bills he signed into law to remain in effect.

Beware some of the groups pushing for impeachment and who is behind them. Impeaching the usurper would be the easiest route for the Outlaw Congress in that they would not have to deal with all the "laws" signed by a president who legally never occupied the office. Since the usurper had no legal authority to sign anything into law, they are all null and void.

Because Barry Soetoro (his last known legal name) lied his way into the White House he is holding a position of power without any legal authority. When you remove a usurper it is as if that individual was never in office or power, which is why you cannot impeach him:

"Seventh, if Obama does become an usurper posturing as “the President,â€