Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Did we know this already? This seems like details I have not seen before.

I think this may have come from Mario: http://www.politicalforum.com/other-mis ... ed-hi.html

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This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981.

The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone.

Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level.

This is what we know about Ludwig:

In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC.

On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US.

Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigrationâ€

I figured the Ellis Island thing out. You have to be a registered user in order to see the records. This is where you can find one copy of the Ludwig image:




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This is a great radio interview with Fitzpatrick and Apuzzo.

http://www.khow.com/cc-common/podcast/s ... PETE7A.mp3

Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan

I figured the Ellis Island thing out. You have to be a registered user in order to see the records. This is where you can find one copy of the Ludwig image:

Yeah, like we can actually read that, HighlanderJuan.
Could be the menu from Chez Pierre for all I know.

We knew about xxx-xx-4425 and the 38 (or 25 or 100 or whatever) other fraudulent SSN's, but the rest is news to me. There is no publicly available reverse lookup for a specific SSN, so someone(s) must have collated the names from phone book CDs for New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Washington, etc., and then crunched the list into Lexis-Nexis and the SSN database lookup in order to find xxx-xx-4425 and the name associated with it. What a massive search task... and why hadn't the Obama-Holder crime syndicate anticipated, blocked, and censored such an undertaking?

Originally Posted by [url=http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=20575

Atty. Orly Taitz[/url]]AZ eligibility bill passed all the committees and state senate. House vote is coming. AZ has 40 Repub reps and 20 dems. We need 31 votes. We have 35 committed, we want to be absolutely sure that the bill passes. Below are the names of 5 Repub reps, who are still on the fence

Amanda Reeve

Michelle Ugenti

Tedd Boht

Kate McGee

speaker of the House Kirk Adams.

Contact them and demand that they vote for the bill, to make sure we have a Constitutionally eligible President and Constitutionally eligible Vice President. This is the most important bill they ever voted for in their lives. Without certification of eligibility we have usurpation of the U.S. presidency and officials, aiding and abetting it are guilty of committing treason. Let them know, that if they don’t sign this bill, we will not only throw them out of office, but we’ll see to it that they are prosecuted for aiding and abetting massive elections fraud and treason.

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=20575

Amanda Reeve
areeve@azleg.gov
(602)926-3014 FAX (602)417-3048

Michelle Ugenti
mugenti@azleg.gov
(602)926-4480 FAX (602)417-3155

Ted Vogt (not "Boht")
tvogt@azleg.gov
(602)926-3235 FAX (602)417-3030

Kate Brophy McGee
kbrophymcgee@azleg.gov
(602)926-4486 FAX (602)417-3170

Speaker of the House Kirk Adams
kadams@azleg.gov
(602)926-5495 FAX (602)417-3019

Arizona HB2177 is a weak, "BC-only" bill, after the committee amended it as follows:

• 1. Removes parental requirements needed to
  run for or hold office or to be put on the ballot.

It leaves the barn door open for Gov. Bobby Jindal, born in the U.S. to non-citizen parents, as well as for the hypothetical "U.S. native-born son of Osama bin Laden."

But it's all we have to work with in Arizona. At least it doesn't have a "after Jan. 20, 2013" take-effect date.

Sample email to AZ Representatives:

• Vote YES on AZ HB2177
  
  Only you can assure that we have a Constitutionally eligible President and a Constitutionally eligible Vice President.
  
  This is the most important bill you have ever voted for in your life. Lacking expert and non-partisan official certification of eligibility, we now have a coup d'état - the usurpation of the U.S. Presidency. Officials aiding and abetting this coup, Rep. Nancy Pelosi and DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond, for example, are guilty of treason for giving aid to a domestic and foreign enemy of the U.S. Constitution, who has committed sedition by nullifying Art. ii, § 1, ¶ 5, of the Constitution without a Constitutional amendment.
  
  HB2177 has the votes to pass, and it will pass. But if you don’t vote for HB2177, you will not only be tossed out of office, but Patriots and Constitutionalists will see to it - eventually, if not sooner - that you are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for aiding and abetting massive election fraud and treason.

Also see: http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/10/ ... lity-bill/

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot ... of-of.html

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2011/ ... -to-house/

I know where the FBI is - they are in hiding - hiding from the usurper - their new boss. The guy from Chicago.

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WHERE DID OBAMA OBTAIN THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER HE IS USING? AND WHERE IS THE FBI?

by Helen Tansey, blogging at the T-Room
Date: April 15, 2011
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/15/ ... er-stupid/

(Apr. 15, 2011) — The Obama nativity scavenger hunt continues to capture the attention of many citizens here in the US, as well as abroad, but what is flying under the radar, and cannot be disputed, is Obama’s use of a Social Security Number (SSN) issued in the spring of 1977 with it first appearing on his Selective Service Registration of which he applied on September 4, 1980. There are serious problems with this SSN with the first being it appears to have been originally assigned to another individual born in 1890, and secondly, when verified using several Social Security Administration verifying databases it is rejected as “NOT FOUND IN THE SOCIAL SECURITY INDEXâ€

[quote="HighlanderJuan"]I know where the FBI is - they are in hiding - hiding from the usurper - their new boss. The guy from Chicago.

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WHERE DID OBAMA OBTAIN THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER HE IS USING? AND WHERE IS THE FBI?

by Helen Tansey, blogging at the T-Room
Date: April 15, 2011
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/15/ ... er-stupid/

(Apr. 15, 2011) — The Obama nativity scavenger hunt continues to capture the attention of many citizens here in the US, as well as abroad, but what is flying under the radar, and cannot be disputed, is Obama’s use of a Social Security Number (SSN) issued in the spring of 1977 with it first appearing on his Selective Service Registration of which he applied on September 4, 1980. There are serious problems with this SSN with the first being it appears to have been originally assigned to another individual born in 1890, and secondly, when verified using several Social Security Administration verifying databases it is rejected as “NOT FOUND IN THE SOCIAL SECURITY INDEXâ€

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

Susan Daniels interview ...404 Error! Page Not Found....scrubbed??

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Somebody buggered with the link. It is bogus. I thought I had it, but was wrong. I'll try to trace the correct one down.

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The Susan Daniels interview (35 min.) on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/v/IZlaIS5o9Vs

is linked from birtherreport.com at
http://www.t-room.us/2011/04/its-the-so ... er-stupid/ .
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ARIZONA IS FIRST STATE IN THE COUNTRY TO PASS AN ELIGIBILITY BILL !!!!!!!!!!

by Jeff Lichter
April 14, 2011

Yesterday in the Senate at 20-9 and Tonight By 40 - 16 - and 4 not voting in the House of Representatives. I believe that every Republican on both sides of the aisle were YES votes. Awesome.

It's time now to start calling Governor Brewer's office.

Telephone (602) 542-4331
In State Toll Free 1-(800) 253-0883 (outside Maricopa County only)
Fax (602) 542-1381

http://www.azgovernor.gov/Contact.asp

http://www.facebook.com/GovJanBrewer

This may need verification and re-checking, but I believe she has 5 days (possibly as much as 10 but no more than that) to sign it. If she doesn't sign it at all, it becomes law. The only way it does not is if she vetoes it.

WOW!!!!! NOW COME ON OKLAHOMA, MISSOURI AND EVERYONE ELSE. IF ANY OF YOU HAVE CONTACTS IN THESE STATES LET THEM KNOW RIGHT AWAY THAT ARIZONA DID IT AND TO USE THAT TO HELP THEM DO IT. THANKS AND GOOD NIGHT. - Jeff Lichter

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

The Susan Daniels interview (35 min.) on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/v/IZlaIS5o9Vs

is linked at birther-report.com and at
http://www.t-room.us/2011/04/its-the-so ... er-stupid/ .

You are too good, MinuteMan. Thanks. I'm waiting for an answer back from Sharon Rondeau, but it may take a while.