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10-18-2011, 06:15 PM #4661
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A comment to the above includes Rep. Bill Posey's letter to a constituent.
He demonstrates no understanding of the meaning of the "natural born Citizen" requirement. But in his next-to-last paragraph, he does at least acknowledge that there is a "lack of candidate vetting" problem that needs to be fixed . . . by someone else (the states).
Originally Posted by Rep. Bill Posey
Rep. Posey shows a certain timidity by writing, "in order to eliminate the prospect of the House of Representatives invalidating national election results." After all, 3 USC § 15 does specifically assign the U.S. House of Representatives along with the U.S. Senate, in Joint Session, the responsibility to object to or accept each vote of the Electors.
Originally Posted by [url=http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/3/15.shtml
for federal office as to qualifications or eligibility" AFTER the election.
See also http://politicalvelcraft.org/2009/09/22 ... ry-8-2009/ .One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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10-20-2011, 10:02 PM #4662
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The Broward/Palm Beach blog discussing Sen. Marco Rubio's [in]eligibility for the Presidency unfortunately (but understandably) refused to post this.
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"No Person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President;"
U.S. Constitution, Art. II, § 1, ¶ 5.
Citizenship is by nature (without legislation) inherited from one's father. (Until women's suffrage and emancipation, a husband's citizenship also extended to his wife and minor children. But since {Perkins v. Elg (1939), additional cite needed}, a U.S. citizen female who marries an alien can claim U.S. citizenship independently of her husband and confer it to her children.)
Since Amendment XIV (1866), a person can claim U.S. citizenship if born on U.S. soil, subject to U.S. jurisdiction, that is, not subject to the jurisdiction of any other state or sovereignty.
"[T]he opening sentence of the fourteenth amendment... put it beyond doubt that all persons... born or naturalized in the United States, and owing no allegiance to any alien power, should be citizens of the United States, and of the State in which they reside." The Slaughterhouse Cases (1873), http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/h ... 36_ZO.html .
"Beyond question, by that act [the Civil Rights Act of April 9, 1866, 42 USC 21 § 1981], national citizenship was conferred directly upon all persons in this country, of whatever race, (excluding only 'Indians not taxed,') who were born within the territorial limits of the United States, and were not subject to any foreign power." Elk v. Wilkins (1884), dissent by Justices Harlan and Woods.
Since Wong Kim Ark (189, a person born on U.S. soil can claim U.S. citizenship. The implicit "subject to U.S. jurisdiction" requirement has been lost or swept under the rug through subsequent misinterpretation.
Therefore, practically speaking, the de facto interpretation of- "citizen" = born of a citizen parent or born in the country (or both).
- "natural born Citizen" = born in the country of citizen parents,
Wong Kim Ark redefined requirements for a "citizen", but not for a "natural born Citizen." The only valid definition of "natural born Citizen" in WKA was Gray's verbatim quote of Emerich de Vattel:- "The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country of parents who are citizens."
- the Naturalization Act of 1790, an erroneous law which was repealed and corrected in the Naturalization Act of 1795;
Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857), which mentioned "the Constitution, which referred citizenship to the place of birth," but which did not refer "natural born Citizen" to the place of birth alone; and
Circuit Justice Swayne's decision in United States v. Rhodes (1866), which relied upon British Common Law for what was only a Circuit Court decision and not a ruling for the United States.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/h ... 49_ZD.html
For further references, see http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-137238-d...rasc-2601.html.One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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10-22-2011, 12:38 AM #4663
Orly Taitz Reports on Hawaii’s Continued Stealth About Obama’s Birth Record
“MULTIPLE APPEALSâ€In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot. -- Mark Twain
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10-23-2011, 01:11 PM #4664
The JustiaGate crimes are heating up with articles from both Leo Donofrio and Dianna Cotter, and soon, I expect, Apuzzo. These crimes all center around the fact that prior to the 2008 elections, all references to Minor v. Happersett 88 US 162 (1875) were removed from at least 25 SCOTUS case reproductions on Justia.com. As Donofrio points out:
TAMPERING WITH OFFICIAL WRITINGS IS A CRIME UNDER 18 U.S.C. 1018.
§1018. Official certificates or writings
"Whoever, being a public officer or other person authorized by any law of the United States to make or give a certificate or other writing, knowingly makes and delivers as true such a certificate or writing, containing any statement which he knows to be false, in a case where the punishment thereof is not elsewhere expressly provided by law, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."
The statute covers a “personâ€In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot. -- Mark Twain
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10-24-2011, 09:28 AM #4665
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Atty. Leo Donofrio posted the following at his website.
[UPDATE #3 8:54 AM Oct. 24, 20[11] - Justia.com has
suddenly placed robots over their entire [s]ite. So much for
Justia's mission, "To advance the availability of legal
resources for the benefit of society."
http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http:/ ... /case.html
Here is a link to the Wayback Machine's URL search of Roe v Wade,
a case which has nothing to do with POTUS eligibility.
http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http:/ ... /case.html
Here is a link to the Wayback Machine's URL search for Minor v. Happersett.
Both searches return the following statement at the Wayback Machine:
"We were unable to get the robots.txt document to display this page."
This activity operates as an admission by Justia.
A criminal investigation is required.]
Try the Google Cache instead.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... /case.html
for Roe v. Wade, and
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... /case.html
for Minor v. Happersett.
"Never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence."
- Napoleon BonaparteOne man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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10-24-2011, 09:53 AM #4666
MinuteMan, I do agree with the last sentence: "A criminal investigation is required." It is clear that Justia is involved in this criminal behavior up to their eyeballs.
With the crooked DoJ in power now, I'm certain there will be no legal pursuit of these crimes against the people. The time to stop using Justia is now. Withdraw support for these miscreants.
Let's pull a John Galt on Justia.In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot. -- Mark Twain
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10-24-2011, 10:20 AM #4667
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Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan
a programming change at justia.com that ran afoul of
an unrelated search engine at wayback.archive.org .
Other archives besides Wayback aren't having this problem
with the "robots.txt" files at justia.com .One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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10-24-2011, 10:52 AM #4668Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SCIn the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot. -- Mark Twain
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10-24-2011, 11:39 AM #4669
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Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan
You have such faith in the reliability of computer programmers, and their superhuman ability to thwart the inevitability of unintended consequences. But consequent interactions with any of gazillions of websites is not predictable with any currently existing code checking software, not to mention the hardware such a universal scan and error check would require. One would have to rent Google for exclusive use, for a week or even a month.One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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10-24-2011, 11:56 AM #4670
[quote=MinutemanCDC_SC]
Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan
You have such faith in the reliability of computer programmers, and their superhuman ability to thwart the inevitability of unintended consequences. But consequent interactions with any of gazillions of websites is not predictable with any currently existing code checking software, not to mention the hardware such a universal scan and error check would require. One would have to rent Google for exclusive use, for a week or even a month.[/quote:4f7cfqiz]
Looking at the timing of these changes and the success of them tells me it was all intentional. There are bad people in the world. Some of them are programmers.In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot. -- Mark Twain
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