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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Unruh for WorldNetDaily
    3rd state facing challenge over Obama eligibility

    Alabama complaint alleges, 'We're now talking of fraud'


    Posted: December 01, 2011, 9:55 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2011 WND

    A formal challenge to Barack Obama's candidacy in the 2012 presidential election has been filed now in a third state, where a submission by a citizen, Albert Hendershot, alleges that the Democratic Party "intends to act negligently or fraudulently in a manner that will cause irreparable harm to the citizens of Alabama."

    Earlier challenges to Obama's candidacy were filed in New Hampshire and Georgia. State officials in New Hampshire, noting that the application had been filled out and the $1,000 fee had been paid, rejected the complaint, which now is being appealed.

    The complaints note that state officials are constitutionally obligated to prevent fraudulent ballots in their jurisdictions, along with concerns that the Democrats, as in 2008, are proposing a candidate that is linked to fraud through his presentation of a contested birth certificate as well as his use of a suspect Social Security number.

    "This complaint does not request or require [officials] find that President Obama is not qualified to hold the office of president of the United States. Instead, this complaint simply asserts that sufficient evidence exists to make any reasonable person doubt, in light of the evidence, that Barack Obama is a 'natural-born citizen,'" said the document, which was posted online by the BirtherReport.com.

    The website, which pursues information about Obama's background, reports that among the various documents for Obama that remain concealed are his passport records, kindergarten records, Punahou School records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago scholarly articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records/schedules, medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license and adoption records.

    The Alabama complaint, directed to Secretary of State Beth Chapman, seeks a "hearing on the validity of evidence of electoral fraud in the 2008 presidential election and the potential for the same occurrence in the 2012 presidential election in and for the state of Alabama."

    The goals include an injunction from the state prohibiting the Democratic Party from making representations about Obama "absent a showing of evidence to your office sufficient to prove that said representation is not negligent and that Barack H. Obama is eligible to be placed on the ballot."

    The document explains the state office has "sole responsibility in placing Barack H. Obama for president" on the state ballot.

    "This notice and my challenge ... request he be removed from our ballot as he does not meet the minimum qualifications as set forth in Article II Section I Clause V concerning the natural born citizen status," the complaint explains.

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=373301
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    Dear LII editors,

    I would like to contribute an article to replace an erroneous, misleading, politically biased article at
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen .

    Rather than attempt to debunk all the errors in the above article, may I contribute the following
    to replace it. (The text is my own and does not infringe upon copyrighted text.)
    _____________________________________

    The U.S. Constitution, Art. ii, § 1, ¶ 5, lists THREE eligibility requirements for the Office of President:

    No person except a natural born Citizen ... shall be eligible to the Office of President;
    neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age
    of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

    A legal idiom or term of art, "natural born Citizen" means,

    a citizen
    born in the country
    of citizen parents.

    The definition of "natural born Citizen" did not come from the Common Law. Far from it. Although most of the U.S. Constitution derives from the Common Law and the writings of John Locke and William Blackstone, the notion of "Crown and subjects" was anathema to free men who had just fought a war to free themselves from tyranny. For such a reason, the Framers - John Jay, Geo. Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, David Ramsay, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, except for Alexander Hamilton - sought an alternative to the Common Law on matters of citizenship, nationality, naturalization, loyalty, and allegiance.

    Looking beyond England and the Crown, the Framers were enamored of the liberation and freedom of the Enlightenment in France and Germany, which derived from the 17th century Rationalism of Gottfried Leibniz (German), René Descartes (French), and Baruch Spinoza (a Portuguese Jew in exile in Amsterdam). In the 18th century, Christian Wolff (German) and Emerich de Vattel (Swiss) built upon the philosophy of Leibniz. The Framers were well learned in The Law of Nations (1758 ), in which Emerich de Vattel wrote:


    The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those
    born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

    N.B.: "parents" is plural, meaning the biological father and mother: not adopting parents, not the mother and her legal husband, and plainly, not one citizen parent and one alien parent.

    This definition of "natural born Citizen," "born in the country, of parents who are citizens," was:

    the norm in Western Civilization dating back to Plato and Herodotus
    in the 4th and 5th c. BC;

    used in correspondence among the Framers of the Constitution;
    for example, in a letter to George Washington, John Jay wrote:
    "Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable
    to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into
    the administration of our national Government; and to declare
    expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army
    shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen."

    quoted nearly verbatim in as many as eight U.S. Supreme Court cases *,
    and although the lower courts were confused and conflicted about nbC,
    never contradicted in any Supreme Court decision (except Justice Gray's
    Tory attempt in Wong Kim Ark to conform the errant colonies with the
    Common Law of Mother England, while Gray ignored that the Common
    Law required those born to foreigners within the jurisdiction of the Crown
    to have a letter of patent from the Crown, which assured that they were
    not enemies or foreign emissaries, making them naturalized by the Crown,
    and therefore NOT natural born citizens);

    quoted by U.S. Rep. John A. Bingham and U.S. Sen. Jacob M. Howard,
    authors of Amendment XIV, which concerns only citizens and
    never mentions natural born Citizens; and

    characteristic of every duly-elected President born since the Constitution
    was ratified in 1787... except Chester A. Arthur, the Vice-President who
    became President when James Garfield was assassinated, and who even
    burned his Presidential papers to hide his father's Canadian citizenship.

    * Cf. The Venus (1814), Shanks v. DuPont (1830), Dred Scott v. Sandford
    (1857), The Slaughterhouse Cases (1873), Minor v. Happersett (1874),
    Elk v. Wilkins
    (1884),
    Perkins v. Elg (1939), and Chief Justice Melville
    Weston Fuller's dissent in Wong Kim Ark (1898 ).

    "At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country, of [169 U.S. 649, 680] parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further, and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction, without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient, for everything we have now to consider, that all children, born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction, are themselves citizens."
    Minor v. Happersett (1874) 21 Wall. 162, 166-168. (N.B. the distinction Chief Justice Morrison Remick Waite made between "natives or natural-born citizens" and "citizens".)


    Refer to http://www.alipac.us/threads/129743-Barack-Obama-s-citizenship-questioned for thousands of supporting posts on this subject.
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    Related thread on Orly's Hawaii updates:

    http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-256762-.html

    Too bad this story(s) wasn't posted in this thread where it belongs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayday
    Related thread on Orly's Hawaii updates:

    http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-256762-.html

    Too bad this story(s) wasn't posted in this thread where it belongs.
    Mrs. Sharon Rondeau has written another good article, as usual.

    No worries, Mayday... this thread doesn't own the news about the usurper or his usurpation.

    Newmexican and kathyet know where this archive is - they have both contributed here before.
    kathyet probably just wanted to get a fresh notice on the list of Current Group Discussions,
    to wake up some who don't read the ALIPAC Barack Obama Ineligibility thread.

    Besides, the news about Georgia and Alabama ballot complaints was posted here 24 hours ago.
    http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-137238-d...rasc-4693.html
    So have no fear, you read it here first. What matters is that We the People read it, not where WtP read it.
    I think the Mods want everything in one thread to avoid duplicate postings scattered any and everywhere.
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    Was at the supermarket today and noticed that the latest issue of The Globe has a big article on Obama and his ineligibility. It delves into the possibility that Frank Marshall Davis is his biological father and describes the research being carried out by Joe Arpaio.
    ...I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid...

    William Barret Travis
    Letter From The Alamo Feb 24, 1836

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    Does The Globe fit the description of Mainstream Media? I think so.
    For a sheeple to learn the truth about Mr. Obama would be worth $4,
    if pravda.ru were not publishing it for free.

    In any case, The Globe proves that either the LSM is unnerved and gutless,
    or the Alinskyite intimidators missed The Globe.
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    Nov. 14th: For the Congressional Research Service, Library of Congress, constitutional attorney Jack Maskell wrote:
    Qualifications for President and the"Natural-Born"-Citizenship-Eligibility-Requirement
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasBorn
    Was at the supermarket today and noticed that the latest issue of The Globe has a big article on Obama and his ineligibility. It delves into the possibility that Frank Marshall Davis is his biological father and describes the research being carried out by Joe Arpaio.


    Cops Probe Identity of Obama's Real Dad

    An official police investigation into President Barack Obama's birth certificate has unearthed shocking information that his father may not have been the African-born Barack Sr. This issue of GLOBE reveals surprising secrets about the man in the Oval Office and names the person who may be Obama's REAL dad.

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    Atty. Orly Taitz reports that her amended motion was "found" and rescheduled for Jan. 6th.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atty. Orly Taitz
    Good news, my amended motion suddenly miraculously reappeared in HI,
    hearing scheduled for January 6, 2012, 9am.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawai'i State Judiciary: Ho'ohiki
    Court Minutes List

    Cce Tltls: DR ORLY TAITZ ESO VS LORETTA FUDDY ETAL 1 CC1 1 -1-001731

    Type Div. . . . Calendar Date . . . Description . . . . . . . . Disposition

    ACC 1C10AC 08-10-2011 ASSIGNED CIVIL CALENDAR . . . DOC

    DSM 1C10CM 10-12-2011 MOTION TO DISMISS PE . . . . . .GRT

    MOT 1C10CM 11-30-2011 EMERGENCY MOTION FOR . . . . WDW

    MOT 1C10CM 01-06-2012 #1 - EMERGENCYMOTION/REQ . . . . .

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-content/ ... otions.pdf
    Too bad that the 5˝ week delay makes the decision too late, practically, to affect early Democratic primaries. The Iowa caucus is Jan. 3rd; New Hampshire is tentatively Jan. 10th; South Carolina and Nevada, Jan. 21st. So a Jan. 6th hearing in Hawaii is on the next business day after the Iowa caucus. How convenient.

    'Well, since the elections are already underway, I guess it's too late now to do anything about it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by florgal
    Quote Originally Posted by TexasBorn
    Was at the supermarket today and noticed that the latest issue of The Globe has a big article on Obama and his ineligibility. It delves into the possibility that Frank Marshall Davis is his biological father and describes the research being carried out by Joe Arpaio.


    Cops Probe Identity of Obama's Real Dad

    An official police investigation into President Barack Obama's birth certificate has unearthed shocking information that his father may not have been the African-born Barack Sr. This issue of GLOBE reveals surprising secrets about the man in the Oval Office and names the person who may be Obama's REAL dad.
    Anything to make him legal...


    'Well, since the elections are already underway, I guess it's too late now to do anything about it."

    Isn't that why Obummer is having a 17 day vacation there to make papers disappear????

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