Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Why Mr. Obama in particular? Maybe he is the Antichrist. We don't know, but he could be. He is certainly the anti-president.

Maybe because he is pure evil, and evil is what the majority of Americans want (at least until payday arrives for the wages of sin). Maybe because he was uniquely bent against everything good and wholesome, against the Christ and Christianity, against Israel and the United States of America, against traditional marriage and normal male-female relationships, and against the cookie-cutter American normalcy which he could see looming large in his future while at Occidental College.

Maybe because the Chicago Machine was more forceful and brutal at eliminating the competition than anyone else. You saw how the Chicago Way bulldozed over Sen. Clinton in 2008 at a time when she had the larger number of committed delegates.

Maybe because he was uniquely indoctrinated into communism from the cradle up, and he learned as a child Arabic and the ways of Is|am in the world's most populous Is|amic state, then he became a disciple of a card-carrying communist from ages 10 to 18.

Maybe because his peculiar mix of characteristics - skin color like the Paks and the Afghanis; intimacy with Is|am and fluency in Arabic (a rarity among Americans); stamina and lung capacity for breathing in high altitudes in the Hindu Kush, developed by years of playing basketball; capitalism-loathing, dope-smoking, radical revolutionary breathing (and he inhaled that ideology), with connections in high and low places in Pakistan - together turned him into a made-to-order, tailored-to-fit asset for the CIA, which used him as an asset in the Hindu Kush, a liason to supply the Taliban with logistics, guns, and money, for their war against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

Maybe because his indoctrination at the Peoples' Friendship University, a.k.a. Patrice Lumumba University, in Moscow made him a trusted double agent for the U.S.S.R., one whom they would encourage toward his dream to become the President of the U.S.. Or maybe because his induction into Is|am made him the Arab oil sheiks' instrument of choice to bring into being the World Is|amic Caliphate.

It was no accident; he was formed and furbished by the design of some very important enemies of the U.S. and Israel, and influential adversaries of Christians and the Jews.

While I certainly agree with your description of the man, the Kenyan evil one, I would say it's much less complicated than that. You simply can't get that many blacks to vote for the white guy. And since the 'reconditioning of thought' instituted by the public school systems, you can't even get that many whites to vote for the white guy. Now that at least half of the nation is on the dole in some way, shape, or form we may never recover our freedom and liberty. God help us, but this next generation is so 'me' centered, so self idolizing and superficial, as long as they are getting "theirs" they will never give a damn about from whom they are taking and the sacrifices we must make to keep them in their designer jeans and sneakers and latest electronic devices thanks to all the "free" Obama stuff. All the sniveling, whiny voiced little pukes care about is that it's "free" and "Obama made it happen".

Now that Soetoro has been (gag, re-elected), any attempt at proving his illegitimacy has zero chance. Sad to say, it just won't happen. The media is now more emboldened to continue their cover-up.

Polling Data [percentage of Likely Voters]

Final Results 11/7 -- -- 50.4 48.0: Obama +2.4

RCP Average 10/31 - 11/5 48.8 48.1: Obama +0.7

Poll Date Sample Margin_of_Error_% Obama (D) Romney (R) Spread

Politico/GWU/Battleground 11/4 - 11/5 1000 LV 3.1 47 47: Tie

Rasmussen Reports 11/3 - 11/5 1500 LV 3.0 48 49: Romney +1

IBD/TIPP 11/3 - 11/5 712 LV 3.7 50 49: Obama +1

CNN/Opinion Research 11/2 - 11/4 693 LV 3.5 49 49: Tie

Gallup 11/1 - 11/4 2700 LV 2.0 49 50: Romney +1

ABC News/Wash Post 11/1 - 11/4 2345 LV 2.5 50 47:: Obama +3

Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun 11/1 - 11/4 1417 LV 2.6 48 48: Tie

NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 11/1 - 11/3 1475 LV 2.6 48 47: Obama +1

Pew Research 10/31 - 11/3 2709 LV 2.2 50 47: Obama +3

2012 Election Polls by Date (percentage of Likely Voters)

Tuesday, November 06 - Congressional Vote
Gallup Republicans 48, Democrats 49: Democrats +1
Politico/GWU/Battleground Republicans 47, Democrats 46: Repub. +1

Tuesday, November 06
Politico/GWU/Battleground Obama 47, Romney 47: Tie
Rasmussen Reports Obama 48, Romney 49: Romney +1
IBD/TIPP Obama 50, Romney 49: Obama +1

Monday, November 05
Gallup Obama 49, Romney 50: Romney +1
ABC News/Wash Post Obama 50, Romney 47: Obama +3
Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun Obama 48, Romney 48: Tie

Sunday, November 04
Pew Research Obama 50, Romney 47: Obama +3
CNN/Opinion Research Obama 49, Romney 49: Tie
Politico/GWU/Battleground Obama 48, Romney 48: Tie
NBC News/Wall St Journal Obama 48, Romney 47: Obama +1

Wednesday, October 31
FOX News Obama 46, Romney 46: Tie
National Journal Obama 50, Romney 45: Obama +5

Tuesday, October 30
NPR Obama 47, Romney 48: Romney +1
CBS News/NY Times Obama 48, Romney 47: Obama +1

Monday, October 29
Pew Research Obama 47, Romney 47: Tie
Politico/GWU/Battleground Obama 49, Romney 48: Obama +1

Sunday, October 28
IBD/TIPP Obama 45, Romney 44: Obama +1

(Source: Real Clear Politics, lines beginning with "General Election: Romney vs. Obama")

Between Oct. 28th and Nov. 6th, the Presidential polls by ten polling organizations all fell within a +/-1 range, except for three outliers (Obama +3, +3, +5), which indicated a slight advantage for Mr. Obama.

But this?

Electoral College 2012
Barack Obama, 332 (61.7%)
Mitt Romney, 206 (38.3%)

2012 Florida Election Watch - Federal Offices
Florida (29 electors)
Obama / Biden DEM 4,180,697 49.9%
Romney / Ryan REP 4,124,865 49.24%




In 2012, Gov. Romney received 2.8 million fewer votes than Sen. McCain received in 2008.

I smell a rat all the way from Chicago to Washington, D.C..

There is only one explanation for such a last-minute landslide:
voter fraud and election fraud.

Unless the telephone polls overlooked a huge number of
Likely Voters without phones who voted for Mr. Obama.

WND EXCLUSIVE

Now White House petition seeks Obama's birth certificate

'People' asking for authorization for Occidental, Harvard, Hawaii to release records

Published: 4 hours ago

Now White House petition seeks Obama’s birth certificate

Preliminary Injunction Hearing In Sibley's Electoral College
Lawsuit Challenging Obama's "Natural Born Citizen" Status

Subpoena Issued for Obama's Original Birth Certificates


By Devvy Kidd
12-4-12

I have been keeping everyone updated on Montgomery Blair Sibley's case. For those who might have missed any updates, Montgomery is an attorney. A very politically smart attorney. He represented the "DC Madame" who was murdered to shut her up. That poor woman "hung" herself, or so the official story goes. The Blair House, residence of the Vice President, was named in honor of Montgomery's family. His case is very important. The sheer amount of legal work he's done is staggering and Montgomery isn't giving up.

I would encourage radio talk show hosts to book him on their show to talk about his case. Montgomery's contact information is on his web site.

In the press releases are links to documents filed.

Press Release #6 -- Preliminary Injunction Hearing in Sibley's Electoral College Lawsuit Challenging Obama's "Natural Born Citizen" Status and Subpoena Issued for Obama's Original Birth Certificates

Press Release #7 -- Obama Ignores Subpoena Served on Him to Produce original Birth Certificates in Court/ Sibley Files Motion to Hold Obama in Contempt-of-Court

Press Release #8 -- Obama's Eligibility Challenged in New Law Suit and Sibley Seeks Appointment of Hawaiian Examiner to Subpoena Obama's Original Birth Records

Updated Status Memo

Also:

Cold Case Posse boss fingers Hawaii officials - Sworn statement details 'elaborate non-cooperation' on Obama probe

Montgomery Sibley's Electoral College Suit vs Obama

Thursday, Dec. 6, 2012 - At 4:05pm PST, the California Supreme Court denied Atty. Orly Taitz's petition to stay California's 55 Electors from voting for Mr. Obama in the Electoral College vote during the Joint Session of Congress on Jan. 6, 2013.

Noonan v. Bowen , a petition for a writ of mandate/prohibition with request for stay, was filed on Dec. 4th by Atty. Orly Taitz on behalf of plaintifs Edward Noonan, Thomas Gregory MacLeren, Keith Judd, and Dr. Orly Taitz, against California Secretary of State Debbie Bowen, defendant. The petition was denied two days later for a reason or reasons not stated on the court docket webpage.

By the time that the "petition denied" decision of the court was posted, the docket listing had been cauterized of any "unseemly" lingering information, such as plaints, evidence, documents, testimony, references to other cases, or any explanation of the opinion of the court. Just one word: "denied". So there is nothing to indicate what the case was about, or that Mr. Obama was involved, much less any presentation of official court documentation of the case for the record and for posterity. It's almost as though the case never happened... according to the official report by the Ministry of Truth.

States have until Tuesday, Dec. 11th, to resolve any controversies about their electors and the Electoral College vote on Jan. 6, 2013.

Originally Posted by Nataly at minutemannews.com

So far [Mr. Obama] seems to be able to move along with his agenda, plus quite effectively brainwash a lot of people, who sincerely trust what he tells them. This worries me quite a lot.

MinutemanCDC_SC

That eerie and unearthly power accomplishing Mr. Obama's own will in spite of the evil of his deeds, steamrolling time after time over hardened opposition from the furious majority, indicates to me something supernaturally wicked, demonic, or even Satanic. How else can anyone explain his ability to ignore and walk right through the millions of his accusers? Those accusers bear sheaves of evidence, government documents, and recordings of eye-witness testimonies and an investigation by a posse of one of the strongest and most respected law enforcement agencies in the country. His accusers even bear a copy of Barack Obama II's Certificate of Birth from Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, complete with names and signatures of two persons verified as appropriate for 1961: Dr. James O. W. Ang'awa, attending physician, and John Kwame Odongo, Supervisor of Obstetrics, as well as the stamp and signature of the current Chief Administrator of CPGH, Helton Maganga. (It remains outstanding to verify the embossed stamp on the CPGH Certificate of Birth against the original embosser, but that would require a court order, which has been unobtainable and repeatedly squelched.)

How else than with the aid of evil beyond that of mankind could AG Eric Holder and Teflon Obom arm the Mexican drug cartels - enemies of the U.S. - with automatic weapons and Barrett .50 cal sniper rifles, and still they evade prosecution for so transparently giving aid to the enemy?

How else than by evil not of this world could Mr. Obama hang Ambassador Stevens out to die, refusing to grant CBA or cross-border authorization to U.S. aircraft to defend U.S. soil in Benghazi under attack by Is|amist terrorists, refusing even to pull the trigger on the armed drone circling above the terrorist mortar being painted by the ex-SEAL at the U.S. Consulate?

How else could Mr. Obama, and by proxy, even his attorneys, diss State of Georgia Administrative Judge Michael Malihi, ignoring his subpoena to appear in court and making a no-show non-appearance, with no negative consequences whatsoever? So far from imposing sanctions for their failure to appear, Judge Malihi acted as Mr. Obama's defense attorney, by presenting (erroneously) the state court decision from Ankeny v. Gov. of Indiana (2009). Ankeny was an invalid precedent, not only because the State of Indiana Court lacked jurisdiction in Georgia, but because the Ankeny decision contradicted the controlling interpretation of "natural born Citizen" by the U.S. Supreme Court in Minor v. Happersett (1875).

First, Judge Malihi scoffed at the near-two-hour presentation of evidence, documents, and testimony about Barack Obama II's birth in Kenya, declaring it "unconvincing". Then, from Ankeny alone, and without ANY supporting evidence of a U.S. birth, Judge Malihi declared Mr. Obama a legitimate Presidential candidate in the State of Georgia. How could Mr. Obama and counsel pull a no-show in court, suffer no consequences for non-appearance, and still get a positive decision on the basis of no evidence and a jurisdictionally-invalid precedent, with the judge denying any and all evidence presented by the prosecuting attorneys? I know of no way on this earth. The judicial misconduct and its results defied human comprehension and any natural explanation.

So tangible that you can almost smell the sulphur, evil drapes Mr. Obama like a shroud - a lying, deceitful presence that comes but to steal and to kill and to destroy, to tempt and to confuse, to mislead and to enslave. How can anyone be so blinded spiritually as not to recognize it?

"So tangible that you can almost smell the sulphur, evil drapes Mr. Obama like a shroud - a lying, deceitful presence that comes but to steal and to kill and to destroy, to tempt and to confuse, to mislead and to enslave. How can anyone be so blinded spiritually as not to recognize it?"

Some seemingly normal people will transform into something almost...RABID.. (for lack of a better word) when confronted with his dirty deeds against us. I don't know if they've let themselves become brainwashed, or if it's something more sinister. I know the behavior I've been on the receiving end of made me extremely uncomfortable ... in more ways than one.

2ND BITE TO CHALLENGE OBAMA'S ELIGIBILITY?

Famous justice has had 'serious questions' about birth certificate

by BOB UNRUH
12/09/2012



A longstanding eligibility case challenging Barack Obama’s presence in the White House soon could be headed to the state Supreme Court in Alabama, where one justice already in a court filing has questioned the authenticity of Obama’s documentation, and the incoming chief justice is a dyed-in-the-wool Constitution supporter with little tolerance for those who want to bypass the document.
The move is pending in an eligibility challenge brought by Hugh McInnish and others against the Alabama Secretary of State, Beth Chapman.

The case most recently was turned down by a state district judge, Eugene Reese, who got his opinion into the mix by determining that the case was “ordered, adjudged and decreed” to be dismissed.

The case calls for a determination that Chapman “has a duty to verify the eligibility of those seeking office.”
In a recent brief in the case, attorney Larry Klayman, founder of Judicial Watch and now of the Klayman Law Firm in Washington, noted that while the state is arguing it should not be tasked with making sure candidates are eligible, the submission by the state itself suggests otherwise.

“[An attorney general's opinion] is not case precedent binding on this court … Nevertheless, it constitutes an admission by Alabama’s chief law enforcement officer on behalf of the state that if the Secretary of State has knowledge gained from an official source about a candidate’s eligibility then she ‘should not’ certify the candidate.”

The issue is the conflict over the requirements of the U.S. Constitution, which demands, “No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president…”

While Obama’s campaign first released a representation of a short-form birth document from Hawaii, and the White House later officially posted online a representation of a long-form certificate, the authenticity of both of those documents has been questioned.
A special Cold Case Posse assembled by Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio concluded that the long-form document was a fabricated image built on a computer.

At last word, it was investigating the possibility of forgery and fraud charges.

“Plaintiffs have shown, backed by sworn affidavits from an ‘official source,’ Sheriff Joseph M. Arpaio and his investigator, Mike Zullo, that Barack H. Obama is not a natural born citizen eligible to be president. … There is credible evidence that Mr. Obama was not born within the United States and that his birth certificate or other identifying documents are fraudulent,” Klayman argued.

For one thing, a publisher promoting Obama as an author for years promoted in a biography of Obama that he was a native Kenyan.

“The secretary of state, having the power to certify candidates, can surely de-certify – in effect disqualify – them if they are found to be ineligible. Mr. Obama proceeded at his own risk. He defrauded the people of the state of Alabama as well as the other voters in this country, and incredibly has served an entire presidential term without once having to prove that he was indeed a natural born citizen, despite all the evidence to the contrary,” the plaintiffs argued.

The brief said even though the dispute is a “hot potato,” “the rule of law must eventually govern, without regard to politics, and cannot and should not be sidestepped through legally convenience and politically correct court rulings which ignore the plain language of the U.S. Constitution.”

But many court cases have made such arguments, and have prompted dismissals by “hot potato”-wary judges.

This one, should it appear before the state Supreme Court as Klayman plans, would be before a panel where one judge at an earlier step in the case already has raised doubts about Obama’s authenticity.

It was when the majority of the high court denied a petition filed by McInnish seeking to require an original copy of Obama’s birth certificate before the sitting president would be allowed on the state’s ballot this year, Justice Tom Parker filed a special, unpublished concurrence in the case arguing that McInnish’s charges of “forgery” were legitimate cause for concern.

Parker wrote, “Mclnnish has attached certain documentation to his mandamus petition, which, if presented to the appropriate forum as part of a proper evidentiary presentation, would raise serious questions about the authenticity of both the ‘short form’ and the ‘long form’ birth certificates of President Barack Hussein Obama that have been made public.”

The “certain documentation” Parker refers to is the findings of an investigation conducted by Arpaio.

As WND reported, Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse announced there is probable cause indicating the documents released by the White House last April purported to be Obama’s original, long-form birth certificate and Selective Service registration card are actually forgeries.

In his concurrence, Parker describes McInnish’s petition as follows: “McInnish seeks from this court a writ of mandamus, directly ordering Beth Chapman, as secretary of state for the State of Alabama, ‘to demand that [President Barack Hussein] Obama cause a certified copy of his bona-fide birth certificate be delivered to her direct from the government official who is in charge of the record in which it is stored, and to make the receipt of such a prerequisite to his name being placed on the Alabama ballot for the … November 6, 2012, general election.’”

Parker, who also wrote a concurrence in another case arguing Roe v. Wade should be overturned, agreed that Arpaio’s findings were legitimate cause to question Obama’s presented documents, but nonetheless joined his fellow justices in denying McInnish’s petition.

“The Alabama Constitution implies that this court is without jurisdiction over McInnish’s original petition,” Parker explains. “The office of the secretary of state of Alabama is not a ‘court of inferior jurisdiction’ that this court may control through the issuance of a writ in response to a petition.”

Now, however, the case is coming from a lower court.

Also, the newly elected chief justice for the court, Judge Roy Moore, recently told WND in an interview that the country must return to a standard where the rule of law, the Constitution, prevails over politics.

Moore, many will remember, was the judge who was removed from the same position he’s now assuming 10 years ago for refusing a federal court’s order to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the state judicial building in Alabama.

He’s explained repeatedly that he has no plans to bring that back, because the monument became a distraction from the real issue: the acknowledgement of God as explained in the national and state constitutions. And he says there’s no possibility of true justice without that.

He said he will be sworn in on the promise to uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the Alabama Constitution.

Get Judge Roy Moore’s classic book about his battle for liberty, “So Help Me God: The Ten Commandments, Judicial Tyranny, and the Battle for Religious Freedom.”

“The only way you can do that is acknowledge that morality and law does come from God,” he said.

It’s not really that complicated, he noted. Human beings unrestrained by law misbehave, so the Constitution is set up with the goal of restraining human excesses, specifically in government.

“The whole basis of the Constitution is the restraint of human power,” he said.

He cited the state of the United States now, following the 2012 election, as an example of things gone wrong.

“No president has the power to violate constitutional restraints of power,” he said. “[The members of the legislature] don’t and neither does the Supreme Court.”

Yet, he said, Barack Obama has violated its standard by bombing Libya, when the Constitution provides only Congress shall declare war.

“The Constitution is the rule of law, and [my job is] to uphold is to uphold the rule of law,” he said.
“I get criticized for my professions that God is the basis of all rights or liberties,” he told WND, “and yet, the rule of law, being the Constitution, and its companion, the Declaration of Independence, organize the laws of our country on [the premise that] our rights come from God.”

Government’s job, he said, is to secure and protect those rights.

Further, the full Constitution needs to play an active role today, he said.

“There is little regard for the Constitution in the courts today, even the U.S. Supreme Court,” he said.

“You go back and you read Thomas Jefferson’s letter to William Giles, of 1825,” he said. “Read what he said about the usurpation of the rights of states. It sounds like he was speaking today.”

In that 1825 letter, which is online at Constitution.org, Jefferson writes that he is concerned that the federal government is becoming to powerful.

“I see, as you do, and with the deepest affliction, the rapid strides with which the federal branch of our government is advancing towards the usurpation of all the rights reserved to the states, and the consolidation in itself of all powers, foreign and domestic; and that too, by constructions which, if legitimate, leave no limits to their power,” he wrote. “Take together the decisions of the federal court, the doctrines of the president, and the misconstructions of the constitutional compact acted on by the legislature of the federal branch, and it is but too evident, that the three ruling branches of that department are in combination to strip their colleagues, the state authorities; of the powers reserved by them, and to exercise themselves all functions foreign and domestic.”

He noted the misbehavior at that time – a taxation plan for roads – was being pursued under the color of the government’s power to regulate commerce, the same precedent cited for the imposition of Obamacare today.

“They assume indefinitely that also over agriculture and manufactures, and call it regulation to take the earnings of one of these branches of industry, and that, too, the most depressed, and put them into the pockets of the other, the most flourishing of all,” Jefferson wrote. “Under the authority to establish post roads, they claim that of cutting down mountains for the construction of roads, of digging canals, and aided by a little sophistry on the words ‘general welfare,’ a right to do, not only the acts to effect that, which are specifically enumerated and permitted, but whatsoever they shall think, or pretend will be for the general welfare.”

And think Congress today is in conflict? Jefferson said of the state of Washington then: “And what is our resource for the preservation of the Constitution? Reason and argument? You might as well reason and argue with the marble columns encircling them. The representatives chosen by ourselves? They are joined in the combination, some from incorrect views of government, some from corrupt ones, sufficient voting together to outnumber the sound parts; and with majorities only of one, two, or three, bold enough to go forward in defiance.”

He said patience is needed, and the nation should “keep ourselves in a situation to profit by the chapter of accidents; and separate from our companions only when the sole alternatives left, are the dissolution of our Union with them, or submission to a government without limitation of powers. Between these two evils, when we must make a choice, there can be no hesitation.”

Read more at 2nd bite to challenge Obama’s eligibility?

My comment to Ed Mattson's column at Veterans Today: "It Might Be a Conspiracy…BUT it All Went Wrong" (an excellent piece about Mr. Obama's actions, or inaction rather, in Benghazi, which is off-topic here).

I read your commenters' complaints [about Mr. Obama]:

too soft and too cowardly
Ideas that have gone wrong
hasn't made one good decision yet
not qualified to be President
criminal activity
wasteful spending
failure to protect U.S. citizens' lives

yet no one addresses the real horror of our situation. Mr. Obama is not just a political and diplomatic klutz making stupid mistakes, or an articulate idea man whose ideas have gone wrong when others have implemented them. Mr. Obama is a constitutionally ineligible usurper, a both domestic and foreign enemy combatant with loyalties alien to the United States. He is an autocratic despot and a totalitarian dictator, responsible to no one.

Mr. Obama is evil, more evil than anyone since Mao Zedong (Mao Tse-tung) and Joseph Stalin, who between them killed between 50 and 85 million of their own people (a total already being rivaled by the American holocaust of the past forty years). Give him time; the incremental plan calls for him to do every wicked work gradually, so as not to cause the people to bolt or revolt.

Secondly, Mr. Obama is acting in favor of and is supported by the gamut of anti-American, anti-Israel, anti-Yahweh, anti-Christian movements, including anyone and everyone who find no place under the big tent of All That Is Good and Right. He represents one-world-government globalists, banksters, Is|amists, communists, the SEIU and the ACLU, Democratic Socialists, anarchists, atheists, unilateral disarmament (ND), late-term abortion and even infanticide, homosexuals adopting and same-sex marriage, and the Hispanic illegal alien lobby (La Raza - the Race, LULAC, MEChA, MALDEF, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce). He sides with the enemies of America and of Freedom; "giving them aid and comfort" is too tame an indictment for Mr. Obama being their man on the throne in Washington, D.C.. He refuses to rein in federal spending, even as the currency is debauched, forcing us into financial ruin as a "bad debt - bad money" third world state.

Among all U.S. Presidents, Mr. Obama is the anti-President. Perhaps he is the devil incarnate, the antichrist, or maybe not; I do not know. But the fact that no one dares to speak it aloud indicates how deeply the fear and intimidation have penetrated.