Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

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It's a little early to declare a winner in this race, IMHO.
We can't just declare victory and withdraw from the battlefield.

Originally Posted by Sam Sewell

Saturday, July 14, 2012
Evidence Obama Ineligibility Movement is Winning



Here is some of the evidence that the ineligibility movement has been [?] victorious, in spite of all the obstacles erected by “officialdom” and Obama supporters:

• · The issue is still here! That is a victory of persistence over corruption! Before the 2008 election the pioneers of the Ineligibility Movement began writing articles and filing legal papers. Attorney Phillip Berg filed a complaint in federal district court on August 21, 2008, against Democratic Party presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, alleging that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya and that the "Certification of Live Birth" on Obama's website is a forgery. The main value of what is being done is to expose the corruption of “Obama” and his enablers, and publicize it as widely as possible. Your help is needed for the latter, since the media and officials want this news buried deeply. Keep up the good work with emails, forums and web sites. In spite of all of the efforts to crush the ineligibility issue, it is very much alive and thriving, and there are still many legal cases that are active. A clear victory!
• · Because of the unresponsiveness of the ruling elite to the ineligibility issue, the national consciousness has become aware that the media, the courts, and the politicians are corrupt beyond redemption. A paradigm shift is happening. The national political perception is no longer one political party against the other, but the ruling elite vs. the citizens. Have you read the Declaration of Independence recently? Many of the complaints our founding fathers voiced against the tyranny of King George are now being seen as present in the tyranny of the political and media ruling elite against today’s citizens. That is a victory of awareness. Another clear Victory!
• · Millions of dollars have been spent by Obama and the Democratic Party to keep secrets from the citizens, stamp out the ineligibility movement, and defend against lawsuits. If it were not for the ineligibility movement, all that money would be available to help reelect Obama. The courageous patriots of the first American Revolution were mostly volunteers and were a small force compared to the British Empire. They knew that attacking the enemy’s resources was often a more effective tactic than attacking their army. Likewise the ineligibility movement has been very effective in depleting Obama’s resources. In the Korean War the F-86 Sabre Jet had a ten to one kill ratio over the MIGs. Dollar for dollar, the ineligibility movement has a higher kill ratio than the F-86. For every dollar we spend, they spend thousands. This is an economic victory. Keep that in mind when making contributions to Florida Ballot Challenge. To my thinking, contributing to the ineligibility movement is the most efficient dollar value for a patriotic contribution. Every dollar you send us takes thousands of dollars out of Obama’s corrupt treasure chest. This is again a clear Victory!
• · Many of the national opinion polls show that a large segment of the citizens still have questions about Obama’s questionable history, and they still want answers! In a July 2012 poll 45% of the general public and 69% of Republicans have doubts about Obama’s birthplace. Many voters have been influenced away from voting for Obama because of the obvious cover up of Obama’s past. Just type these search words into Google and see for yourself: obama eligible poll. The ineligibility movement has educated the voters beyond the circumstances of Obama’s birth and the citizenship of his father. Now people are aware that Obama’s history of education, medical history, travel and passport history, the history of his parent’s marriage and divorce, adoption records, the records of the Illinois bar, Illinois State Senate records, his beliefs, past associates, personal behavior and many other mysteries still remain unresolved. The uncertainty created by Obama’s cover up will significantly affect voting outcome. Most presidential elections are decided by a very narrow margin. Given that about half the American people are uncertain about Obama’s history, the 2012 vote will be more influenced by the ineligibility movement than any demographic group. That is a victory of the “think for themselves” citizens over the ambiguous cover ups offered by the ruling elite! Yet another clear victory.

I have a question for my readers. If the ineligibility movement was not scoring significant victories why would the Democratic Party and Obama’s supporters be trying so hard to silence the issue? Why not encourage the legal establishment to rule on the evidence and the law, rather than avoiding the facts? Why not encourage the Supreme Court to rule, rather than evade? Why not encourage a public open discussion of the ineligibility issue? Why not have public debates on national television? Why not release the many documents that reveal Obama’s history? Why not give millions of citizens the information they want? Or, why not simply ignore it? Why indeed? I know why. The “birthers” are winning and Obama can’t afford to give them any more ammunition!

Please see:
Strategy Update for Florida Ballot Challenge
By Sam Sewell, Project Director

The Steady Drip: Evidence Obama Ineligibility Movement is Winning

I am new at reading all of the information that I am reading. I hear about Obama not being a natural born citizen, wearing a wedding band before he married his wife, his fraudualnt social security number. Why if all of this is true has nothing come of it? Believe me I am not an Obama fan. I just am coming up with more questions than answers. Why have we not thrown him out called his elecetion illegal if he this is all true?

JR, welcome to the most active thread at Alipac. There are TONS of information in this thread going back years. Your question "Why if all of this is true has nothing come of it?" is the ten million dollar question that we've all been trying to answer. If you're interested there's a lot to study. This is a very good place to start.

Originally Posted by JR1955

I am new at reading all of the information that I am reading. I hear about Obama not being a natural born citizen, wearing a wedding band before he married his wife, his fraudualnt social security number. Why if all of this is true has nothing come of it? Believe me I am not an Obama fan. I just am coming up with more questions than answers. Why have we not thrown him out called his elecetion illegal if he this is all true?

JR1955, it is true and a fact that Mr. Obama is ineligible for the Office of President,
not being a natural born Citizen, that is,

one born in the country
of parents who are citizens.

Barack Obama II was born in Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, a fact universally recognized and heralded abroad, until it became political baggage. When he gave the keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention in Boston, Mass., on July 27, 2004, he became a presidential contender, and "Kenyan-born" had to be erased from his bona fides.

As a Kenyan before independence (1963), Obama Sr. was a British Protected Citizen, a status which automatically passed to his offspring. It was difficult to erase the fact that Barack Obama II's father of record was never a U.S. citizen. So the requirement to be born of citizen parents had to be "erased" from the collective American consciousness instead.

It doesn't even need to be mentioned that his mother was 117 days short of age 19, the age required to confer her U.S. citizenship to her foreign-born child with an alien. The INA of 1952 then in effect required the U.S. citizen parent to be, "ten years a resident, five after the age of fourteen," in order to confer U.S. citizenship. So Barack Obama II was not even a U.S. citizen at birth, not until three days later, when his grandmother Madelyn Dunham, presumably, registered his birth at the Honolulu Co. Health Dept..

So, how does he get away with this illegal usurpation of the Presidency, fraudulent claim and exercise of government power, and impersonation of an Officer of the United States? He doesn't, except temporarily, for a time.

• He defies being brought to justice, because he is over the Dept. of Justice and federal law enforcement.
• He defies being brought to account by force, because he is over the U.S. Armed Forces (but not the states' militias, notably in Texas).
• He defies being held in contempt by Congress or Courts, because he controls their means of enforcement.
• He defies being brought to account in the court of public opinion by the mainstream media, because he is their anointed and chosen one.
• He defies being brought to account by media mavericks, because he controls the regulatory agencies that license them.
• He defies being brought to account by America's pulpits, because he controls their 501(c)3 tax exempt status as non-partisan religious organizations.

But ultimately, he defies all that is right and lawful because God, for His higher purposes, allows Mr. Obama limited liberty, for a limited time, to pursue lawlessness and to be a "man of lawlessness."

Why then have these high crimes continued unchecked?

Some call it "a conspiracy of silence" about treason against the People and the Constitution of the United States, sedition in the annulment and overthrow of parts of the Constitution to the end of annulling or dis-empowering other parts of it, and a coup d'état overturning U.S. sovereignty, our democratically elected representative republic, and our tri-partite form of government, opening the gates to global governance by a Eurocentric cabal of Bilderbergers, billionaires, banksters, and Shylock financiers; the UN, EU, NATO, DC and SPP/NAU, WTO, WHO, IMF, the World Bank, and the Federal Reserve; ecclesiastical hierarchies that Jesus will have left behind; heads of state, the upper crust, and other elite members of society; and heads of international corporations who intend to staff their capital investments with the cheapest labor in the world, reducing the masses and the rest of us to serfs.

Some see it as part of the Is|amization of the Christianized West and a conspiracy of fear and threats, intimidation and coercion, dhimmitude and slavery, which includes not only the Mus|im Brotherhood, the Nation of Is|am, the New Black Panther Party, and Hezbollah cells in the U.S., but also organized crime and the Mexican and Latin American drug cartels; the Chicago Way, ACORN, the SEIU, and various union thugs and enforcers; Democratic Socialists, Communists, Marxists, Maoists, Ché disciples, and the gamut of radicals, revolutionaries, and bσmß-throwing anarchists; all watched closely, or at a safe distance, by tens of millions of illegal aliens and an even greater number of big-government dependents.

I see this breakdown of the U.S. government as end-times lawlessness leading up to the return of the Lord Jesus Christ, Who will reign in Jerusalem on the throne of David, and rule over all the earth as Messiah and King for a thousand years, after the beast (the New World Order, the one-world government) and the false prophet (the ideology of Is|am and the followers of Mσhαmmεd) are thrown into the lake of fire (Revelation 13 and 19). He shall lead His flock like a shepherd, and He shall rule the Gentiles with a rod of iron.

Court decision renews focus on
[New] Black Panther [Party] voter intimidation
August 16, 2012
By: Jim Kouri



The New Black Panther Party endorsed President
Barack Obama in 2008 and appeared to fit in with
the campaign's Chicago-style politics in 2008.
The group also endorses Obama this year.
(Credits: NBPP Web Site)

In the wake of a recent federal court ruling that casts doubt on the accuracy of sworn testimony provided by Justice Department officials regarding the decision to abandon its voter intimidation lawsuit against the New Black Panther Party for Self Defense (NBPP), Examiner's Joe Newby reported on Wednesday that a disturbing video reveals alleged Panther leader Samir Shabazz saying "that blacks will have to kill white babies seconds after they’re born, while suggesting [the] bombing of nurseries."

A Washington, D.C.-based watchdog group is questioning the testimony of Attorney General Eric Holder regarding the Black Panther intimidation case and the group, Judicial Watch, insists that the case must be investigated by a special prosecutor.

The Justice Department had filed its original lawsuit against the NBPP following the now well documented incident that took place outside of a Philadelphia polling station on Nov. 4, 2008. According to multiple witnesses, members of the NBPP blocked access to polling stations, harassed voters and hurled racial epithets, according to officials at Judicial Watch.

After filing a lawsuit against the two Philadelphia Panthers, the Party, and the Party's chairman in January 2009 alleging violation of the federal law prohibiting voter intimidation, the Justice Department reversed course in May 2009, unilaterally dismissing the case against three of the defendants and greatly reducing the relief originally sought against the defendant who carried a club.

The DOJ ultimately overruled the recommendations of its own staff and dismissed the majority of its charges. Current and former DOJ attorneys have alleged in sworn testimony before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights that the DOJ’s NBPP decision, as well as other civil rights-related decisions, are made on the basis of race and political affiliation.

For example, in the course of looking into why the Justice Department chose to dismiss most of the lawsuit, the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights heard testimony from two DOJ attorneys and members of the NBPP trial team, former Voting Section Chief Christopher Coates and J. Christian Adams, who under oath stated to the Commission that there was a "culture of hostility within the Department's Civil Rights Division to the race-neutral application of the nation's voting laws."

Arguably the busiest public-interest group in the nation, Judicial Watch, uncovered information that top political appointees at the Justice Department were intimately involved in the decision to dismiss the lawsuit against the New Black Panther Party.

These documents, obtained by Judicial Watch through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit, include internal DOJ e-mail correspondence that directly contradict the sworn testimony of Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez. Perez testified before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights that no political leadership was involved in the decision.

Despite the revelatory documents, the DOJ continued to insist that the documents did not make “any political interference whatsoever,” according to Judicial Watch

But the federal court judge disagreed. In a July 23 ruling by Judge Reggie B. Walton of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia in response to Judicial Watch’s effort to obtain attorneys’ fees from the DOJ for stonewalling the release of documents, Judge Walton ruled:

“The documents reveal that political appointees within DOJ were conferring about the status and resolution of the New Black Panther Party case in the days preceding the DOJ’s dismissal of claims in that case, which would appear to contradict Assistant Attorney General Perez’s testimony that political leadership was not involved in that decision. Surely the public has an interest in documents that cast doubt on the accuracy of government officials’ representations regarding the possible politicization of agency decision-making."

The court’s conclusions also call into question the veracity of Attorney General Eric Holder’s testimony on the controversy. On Mar. 1, 2011, Holder testified to the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies:

"The decisions made in the New Black Panther Party case were made by career attorneys in the department. And beyond that, you know, if we’re going to look at the record, let’s look at it in its totality."

The court received documents that included a series of e-mails between two political appointees: former Democratic election lawyer and current Deputy Associate Attorney General Sam Hirsch and Associate Attorney General Thomas Perrelli. Both DOJ officials were involved in detailed discussions regarding the NBPP decision, according to Judicial Watch's press statement.

“It is becoming increasingly clear that the leadership of the Justice Department, including Attorney General Holder, has a problem with truth. There needs to be an independent investigation into whether Holder and Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez committed perjury in testifying under oath about the Black Panther controversy. We are pleased that a court has already seen through the false narrative presented to it by the Justice Department. We can’t have our nation’s top law enforcement officers playing fast and loose with the truth,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

"This Judicial Watch report [should be] on the front page of every newspaper and the lead story on every TV and radio newscast," former police detective and military intelligence officer Mike Snopes told the Law Enforcement Examiner.

"This report reveals that the U.S. Justice Department under [Attorney General] Holder is out of control harassing state legislatures and law enforcement officials while turning a blind eye towards voter intimidation. They are playing race politics of the worse kind -- institutionalized racism," [Mike] Snopes said.

http://www.examiner.com/article/court-decision-renews-focus-on-black-panther-voter-intimidation

I seem to be doing nothing but reading and reading and then more reading. The more I read the more questions I have. And this all happened because I became bored at work. I am on my last week here and have nothing to do. I have not been one to really keep up with things and I will vote this year. But I have never like Obama. So I am going to keep reading.

Thank you for your reply. I found it very interesting and I agee with you on it.

Thank you, JR1955. We're honored to have you among us.

I find that the only wise and worthwhile course of action regarding this coup d'état by foreign and domestic enemies of the United States and the U.S. Constitution is to pray until the Heavenly Father leads onto the trail He wants to see followed. If there were something specific I could tell others to do about the usurpation that would accomplish whatever needs to be done, we would already have done it.

We're in uncharted territory here, and we have no leadership manual to walk us through to victory. To guide us, there aren't many Russians left who lived through Stalin's reign of terror and the purges of the dissidents. Atty. Orly Taitz, a Moldovan Jewess, knows how that story ends. She is highly motivated to keep America from repeating it.

If I may use cancer as an analogy:
cancer turns on its host and consumes it, devouring more than its share of nutrients and expanding beyond its natural bounds, to the detriment of the organ in which it exists. To keep it from killing the host, the cancer must be neutralized, sterilized from reproducing, starved, poisoned with chemo, or surgically removed. Above all, it must be prevented from metastasizing or spreading to other organs.

Don't let the massive amount of details about the usurpation overwhelm you. This is not a trivia competition, and there are enough specifics in my above post to put you ahead of the 99% in knowledge. On the other hand, the more you learn about the usurpation, the more confident you become about the truth and trustworthiness of what you already know.

Two war cries of the American Revolution come to mind:
"Sic semper tyrannis," and
"We have no King but Jesus."

Again, welcome, JR1955.

The Corruption Chronicles, by Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch, was published in July of 2012.

In Part Three, p. 372, "How to Steal an Election in Plain Sight" is chapter 8. In this Amazon preview (link), there are 25 reference notes for chapter 8 that may be useful starting points for our efforts to prevent the robbing of the election.