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    GQ Magazine on MA-17: Who's Afraid of These Ron Paul Delegates?

    Submitted by redwhiteblue on Wed, 07/11/2012 - 13:30
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    GQ Magazine: When I asked the Romney campaign why the 17 delegates had been rejected, they referred me to the Massachusetts Republican Party. But the party, in a statement from the Allocation Committee chairman, says it was the Romney campaign's decision to bounce the 17 Paul supporters:
    "Governor Romney's campaign, through its representative on the Allocation Committee, made the decision not to certify certain delegates and alternate delegates who were unwilling to sign and return on time the affidavit sent out by the Allocation Committee affirming that they would cast their vote for Governor Romney at the National Convention in Tampa," the statement reads. It concludes with the committee's agreement that the dispute over affidavits constituted "'just cause' for not being certified as national delegates."
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    Romney Struggles To Lock Down Rowdy Delegates

    The campaign grapples with demanding state parties and hostile libertarians. A threat to the New York State chairman.

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    Romney in New York earlier this year. Image by John Moore / Getty Images

    Posted Jul 11, 2012 12:42pm EDT

    A recent tussle between the Romney campaign and the New York State Republican Party chairman is the latest power struggle over delegates in the Romney campaign’s effort to stage a picture-perfect Republican National Convention.

    Representatives of the Romney campaign threatened to prevent New York State party chairman Ed Cox from taking the stage at the national convention in Tampa unless he installed the delegates they'd chosen, sources familiar with the encounter said.

    The disagreement comes after months of incidents at state conventions, most recently in Massachusetts, where Ron Paul delegates were required to sign affidavits saying they would vote for Romney. In a host of other states, pro-Romney Republicans have struggled to maintain control of party platforms and delegate slates in the face of insurgent libertarians.

    At stake is control of the convention, which the campaign hopes will be an error-free infomercial on Romney’s personal and presidential merits. But conventions are also gatherings of diverse and garrulous local political operatives, each eager for a day in the sun, and the intense focus on the events creates a constant risk of derailment.

    In New York, the incident didn’t involve Paul supporters, but a battle of wills between the Romney campaign and the state party chairman over the selection of delegates from the state.

    "The Romney people gave Ed Cox their list of people they wanted to have be delegates," said one Republican operative familiar with what happened. "Cox was like I’m not doing that, I’m doing my people."

    "The Romney people were pissed at him," the operative said, adding that the Romney representatives had plans to "replace Ed Cox as the person with the authority" to introduce the New York delegation at the national convention.

    The incident follows the Massachusetts convention, where the Romney campaign had Ron Paul-supporting delegates sign an affidavit under penalty of perjury promising to vote for Romney at the national convention.

    Paul supporters say the establishment Republicans grew nervous after the libertarian “liberty slate” swept the caucuses in April.

    "They definitely didn’t pressure us to do anything till after they found out the liberty slate was winning," said Victor Navarro, a Paul supporter active in the state party who attended the convention. "That's when the affidavits came out."

    "Around 10 at least didn’t sign it," Navarro said. "Some of them tried to negotiate and the chairman didn't even want to negotiate with these guys."

    "They were angy that Kerry Healey didn’t become a delegate, or Charlie Baker," Navarro said, naming prominent Massachusetts Republicans. "We had young people on the liberty slate, minorities – it was very sad to see something like that."

    Seventeen delegates had their delegate credentials taken away because they didn’t sign the affidavits.

    "Under the Massachusetts GOP Rules, Governor Romney's campaign, through its representative on the Allocation Committee, has the right not to certify individuals for 'just cause' as national delegates or alternate delegates," said Massachusetts GOP Allocation Committee Chairman Ed McGrath in a statement. "Governor Romney's campaign, through its representative on the Allocation Committee, made the decision not to certify certain delegates and alternate delegates who were unwilling to sign and return on time the affidavit sent out by the Allocation Committee affirming that they would cast their vote for Governor Romney at the National Convention in Tampa."

    Other Paul-related tumult happened at a number of other state conventions, including in Louisiana, where the Paul campaign claimed that its supporters were assaulted, and in Iowa, where Paul supporters grabbed 23 of the 28 delegate spots after “a two-day tug-of-war marked by bouts of angry shouting,” according to the Des Moines Register.

    In contrast, what happened in New York was under the radar, a negotiation that never came to light in dramatic fashion at the convention itself.

    Reached for comment, New York Republican Party spokeswoman Becky Miller didn't directly address the operative's account, saying "The State Chairman is in constant communication with the leadership of the campaign and the candidate himself. Furthermore, the staff at State Committee is working closely with their counterparts in the Romney campaign."

    “We are all working hard to make Mitt Romney the next President of the United States,” said the Romney campaign's New York State political director, Rob Cole.

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    Mitt Romney Praised ObamaCare Mandate, Exchanges, Portability In 2010

    Mitt Romney yesterday said in an interview with CBS News that the individual mandate was a tax, while the plan he put in place in Massachusetts was a penalty, and not a tax.

    In a video from April 2010, Mitt Romney praised some similarities between his plan and President Obama's. Romney said he liked the individual mandate, the portability of the insurance, the requirement that insurers cover people with a preexisting condition, and the similar exchanges. Romney said his plan was different because it was state plan and his plan did not raise taxes, and did not cut Medicare. (As a Governor, Romney had no authority to cut Medicare.) posted
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    Can Ron Paul Embarrass the Entire GOP Party in Tampa?

    Submitted by chitownjj on Wed, 07/11/2012 - 15:45
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    Austin Peterson talks about how Ron Paul already has the 5 states needed to be placed into nomination. Let's win Nebraska, but this is NOT a do or die situation. Watch the interview here



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    The current view of the 2012 presidential election, based on HuffPost Pollster charts and analysis.

    Updated: Wednesday, July 11 2:27 pm ET


    Obama 263 Electoral Votes

    Romney 191 Electoral Votes


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    Obama vs Romney

    Last Updated: 7/11
    State Pollster Poll Date Obama Romney
    Pennsylvania WeAskAmerica 7/9-7/10 47% 40%
    New-Mexico WeAskAmerica 7/9-7/10 51% 40%
    National Rasmussen Reports 7/8-7/10 45% 46%
    National Gallup Tracking 7/3-7/10 45% 47%
    Florida Rasmussen Reports 7/9-7/9 45% 46%
    National Reuters Ipsos 7/5-7/9 49% 43%
    National Wash Times/JZ Analytics 7/6-7/8 42% 43%
    Wisconsin PPP 7/5-7/8 50% 44%
    National ABC Wash Post 7/5-7/8 47% 47%
    Virginia PPP 7/5-7/8 50% 42%
    North-Carolina PPP 7/5-7/8 47% 46%
    National Quinnipiac 7/1-7/8 46% 43%
    Florida WeAskAmerica 7/1-7/2 46% 45%
    California Field 6/21-7/2 55% 37%
    North-Carolina Civitas 6/29-7/1 45% 50%
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    ‘Snow White With Testicles’: Limbaugh Slams Romney NAACP Speech

    Posted on July 11, 2012 at 7:02pm by Mytheos Holt
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    You have to give Mitt Romney credit for trying to get the NAACP to listen. He did his darnedest without compromising his message, and it showed. Nevertheless, the fact remains that in terms of reception, the speech was a disaster. The crowd was hostile from the beginning, and got worse at various points, and Romney’s arguments, while even-handed, simply could not cut through the fog of racial victimization that obscures the thinking of many within the NAACP.

    Worse, despite the fears of some liberal commentators, Romney’s being booed has apparently not helped him with the conservative press. How do we know? Because even Rush Limbaugh, who had every reason to pump Romney’s speech as a courageous act, was disappointed with the reception and said Romney’s attempt to speak to the group was a lost cause. Why? Because, according to Limbaugh, Romney just can’t help the fact that he looks and sounds white, and the NAACP (or as Rush calls them, the NAACP, for “National Association for the Advancement of Liberal Colored People”) doesn’t want to hear that.

    “That’s what Obama does. Obama brings out the Selma twang when he heads in there to the NAALCP,” Limbaugh thundered. “And Hillary, ‘I ain’t no ways tiiiired.’ Then they stand up and they give Hillary a cheer, and Obama says things like, ‘Well, my grandfather came down here with the po’.’ They scream, ‘Right on, dude!’ And they stand up for a standing ovation! Romney goes in there today, and he sounded like Snow White with Testicles. That’s not what this bunch wants to hear.”

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    Not that it was all bad news. Limbaugh noted in a later segment that despite being booed while talking about Obamacare, Romney did get a standing ovation when his speech had finished. “I wonder how many news media will report that,” Limbaugh said wryly. We can now say that at least one will.

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    Jerry Doyle Rips Apart A Romney Supporter

    Submitted by mnayden on Wed, 07/11/2012 - 19:24
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