Thread: Ron Paul on the Issues

NY Times: Ron Paul: "I can't fully endorse Romney"

Submitted by sailingaway on Sat, 08/25/2012 - 17:01

"Mr. Paul, in an interview, said convention planners had offered him an opportunity to speak under two conditions: that he deliver remarks vetted by the Romney campaign, and that he give a full-fledged endorsement of Mr. Romney.

He declined.

“It wouldn’t be my speech,” Mr. Paul said. “That would undo everything I’ve done in the last 30 years. I don’t fully endorse him for president.”

More: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/us/politics/ron-paul-passi...

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Way to go Ron Paul

Only a Moron would endorse Willard "PONZI SCHEME" Romney

Rachel Maddow uploaded a new video- "Mitt Romney admits to using Chinese slave labor at Bain."

Submitted by ralph hornsby on Sat, 08/25/2012 - 19:16
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Sickening. Spread this everywhere



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WARNING! Delegates show up on MONDAY: Postponement is a huge RNC trick!

Submitted by Natural Order on Sat, 08/25/2012 - 19:54
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Delegates, on tuesday you will find out that the vote took place on Monday without you. There will be nothing you can do about it.

These sick freaks are desperate and will do anything to keep Ron Paul from being nominated.

PLEASE JUST SHOW UP!

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Many Minnesota delegates to carry Ron Paul's message to RNC in Tampa

Submitted by DeMolay on Sat, 08/25/2012 - 18:59
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The Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla., this week will be a carefully scripted show promoting Mitt Romney for president, but the Ron Paul supporters who dominate the Minnesota delegation plan to do some improvising to shift a bit of the spotlight to their libertarian cause.
"We definitely want to make our mark," said Marianne Stebbins, the chairwoman of the Minnesota delegation who also managed Paul's presidential campaign in the state earlier this year.

Thirty-two of Minnesota's 40 delegates are Paul supporters, and most of them are expected to vote for the Texas congressman when the roll is taken Thursday, the fourth and final night of the convention.

http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_21388789/many-minneso...

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Rutherford Inst. Atty: VETs esp. who are 911 truthers targeted -Video- VeteransToday.com

Submitted by archer on Sat, 08/25/2012 - 20:21
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Rutherford Inst. Atty: VETs esp. who are 911 truthers targeted[Video] VeteransToday.com

Secret Psyc Ward Renditions – USMC Sgt. Brandon Raub Was Just One of Many | Veterans Today...

scroll down to the GB interview. Attorney John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute says "there are 20,000 alone in Virginia each year." He says veterans who are 911 truthers are targeted. Notice Glen Beck immediately changes the subject. No wonder he got the award from the ZOA last year.

Is this the reason that Veterans are committing suicide at a alarming rate which the Zionist media will not report on.

Funny how israelies have mandatory service. Never heard of a problem with suicides. That would be devastating to their future generations then wouldnt it.

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Disenfranchising Duly Elected Paul Delegates Is/Was an Illegal Act. Voting Rights Act of 1965

Submitted by lolly on Sat, 08/25/2012 - 16:49
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Voting Rights Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Go down to Section 2- there is a general prohibition on voting discrimination- "prohibiting any voting practice or procedure that has a discriminatory result". Check out the 1982 amendment thereon also. What the RNC rules committee is doing is ILLEGAL. Have a lawyer with you when you nominate Ron Paul an hour or more before the roll call and have him site the "Voting Rights Act of 1965". Ron Paul has 5 states or more and changing rules or slates that were not duly elected is ILLEGAL and does not stand regardless of what the RNC rules spurious changes says. "The Voting Rights Act of 1965" trumps the RNC rules changes that were made to discriminate. Ron Paul still has 5 to 7 states with overages of Ron Paul delegates. Plus voting changes that are discriminatory needed to have "clearance" by the Dept of Justice . They did not get clearance . Do they have a written official paper from the DOJ with "clearance" ? NO ! So we the members of the Republican Party uphold that Ron Paul does have 5 or more plurality of states.

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UPDATE! RNC Rules Rumor in Tampa: Attempt Fails to Change Nominations Rule From 5 State Plurality to 10 States

Submitted by RobHino on Wed, 08/22/2012 - 11:06 Ron Paul 2012
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UPDATE 2! As noted by DP's tsai3904 and We the People below in the comments, here's Politico's report on this.

UPDATE 1! Just got the following message!

"Proposal to change plurality requirement from 5 to 10 failed!"

ORIGINAL POST:

From my friend in Tampa:

"Rumor is RNC plans to make the nomination rule for this convention be plurality from 15 states instead of 5."

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Libertarian Legion Stands Ready to Accept Torch From Paul
Damon Winter/The New York Times
Charles Crites, 69, of Louisiana attended the Libertarian Party’s alternate convention Friday at the State Fairgrounds in Tampa, Fla.

By JOHN HARWOOD

Published: August 25, 2012

TAMPA, Fla. — The future of what Ron Paul started rests with supporters like Ashley Ryan, who will attend Mr. Paul’s final presidential campaign rally here with decidedly mixed feelings.

Ms. Ryan, a 21-year-old college student, will take over as Maine’s national committeewoman after sitting as a Paul delegate at this week’s Republican National Convention. But in a credentials dispute, hard-bargaining party leaders left Paul forces with only half the Maine delegates they thought they had won this year — a blunt reminder of Mitt Romney’s grip on the proceedings.
“It was a huge slap in the face,” Ms. Ryan said. Though her unseated Maine colleagues can attend with guest passes furnished by the Iowa delegation, she said, “I was very disappointed.”
Yet Mr. Paul’s supporters can celebrate achievements that an earlier generation of libertarians never tasted. Before Tropical Storm Isaac put a question mark into the plans, Mr. Paul was scheduled to stage a valedictory rally on Sunday before an estimated 10,000 supporters at the University of South Florida’s Sun Dome. Its speakers, including Ms. Ryan, were planning to send the Republican Party a message about their commitment to grow in influence as the 77-year-old Mr. Paul moves on.
The libertarian movement has always boasted intellectual champions. But it has gotten something new from Mr. Paul, the iconoclastic veteran House member from Texas, whose small-government, low-tax, noninterventionist views found new attention in the Tea Party era and served as the focus of a determined grass-roots effort to shake up the Republican establishment.
Over three separate presidential bids, Mr. Paul has given libertarians a leader from the world of electoral politics, a beachhead within the party and a passionate if disparate army of activists. The onetime obstetrician has even bequeathed the movement a successor: his son, Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky.
“We used to say most people found libertarianism by reading Ayn Rand,” said David Boaz of the Cato Institute, a libertarian research organization in Washington. “In the last five years, most people have found libertarianism by listening to Ron Paul.”
Brian Doherty, an editor at Reason magazine and a historian of the libertarian tradition, goes so far as to call the Texas Republican “a miracle.” Before Mr. Paul, the movement found many admirable traits in political figures like Barry M. Goldwater and Ronald Reagan — but also big disappointments.
Even now, backers like Ms. Ryan see the Paul campaign ending in a fizzle rather than a bang at the convention. In addition to disappointments over delegates, Mr. Paul, who finished second to Mr. Romney in New Hampshire’s signature primary, will not get to address the party convention.
That reflects both sides of the movement’s new circumstances. To enhance its long-term viability among Republicans, Paul campaign leaders decided to cooperate with Romney forces for a smooth convention, while eschewing compromises that would have alienated core supporters even more.
Mr. Paul, in an interview, said convention planners had offered him an opportunity to speak under two conditions: that he deliver remarks vetted by the Romney campaign, and that he give a full-fledged endorsement of Mr. Romney. He declined.
“It wouldn’t be my speech,” Mr. Paul said. “That would undo everything I’ve done in the last 30 years. I don’t fully endorse him for president.”
Mr. Paul’s campaign chairman, Jesse Benton, acknowledged the frustrations that the Paul high command had been forced to manage.
Some true believers want to “dress in black, stand on a hill and say, ‘Smash the state,’ ” said Mr. Benton, who is married to one of Mr. Paul’s granddaughters. But “it’s not our desire to have floor demonstrations. That would cost us a lot more than it would get us.”
Just eight years ago, “it was fringy people in the John Birch Society” who were espousing Mr. Paul’s ideas for taking on the Federal Reserve system, Mr. Benton said. “Now it’s the Republican Party” that has drafted a platform plank calling for auditing the central bank.
The purity of the movement’s principles has long left it in a form of self-imposed isolation. The minimalist role it envisions for government repels a vast majority of Democrats; its noninterventionist foreign policy and live-and-let-live social views repel most Republicans.
The Pew Research Center’s most recent study of groups within the electorate, conducted last year, categorized 10 percent of registered voters as libertarians. But even that relatively small group, said the center’s president, Andrew Kohut, held more moderate views on the role of government and foreign affairs than Mr. Paul.
Still, Mr. Paul has managed to expand the movement’s ranks. The two million votes he received in this year’s Republican nominating contests were nearly five times the number he received as the Libertarian Party’s presidential nominee in 1988.
He largely credits fortunate timing. The 2008 financial crisis and growing fatigue with the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq made some voters more receptive to his message on monetary and military policies.
“There’s a lot of luck in politics,” he said.
Simple generational change could give the movement a boost in elections to come. Younger voters of all stripes display increasing tolerance on social issues like same-sex marriage; the fiscal conservatives among them will fit into the libertarian camp far more easily than older, conservative Christian Republicans.
In New Hampshire, for instance, Mr. Paul drew half his votes from people under 45. Three-fourths of Mr. Romney’s votes came from people 45 and older.
Mr. Doherty, the author of a history of libertarianism called “Radicals for Capitalism,” credited Mr. Paul with “normalizing” a movement once derided as kooky. But he said the movement must remain aggressive to grow more rapidly and avoid being taken for granted the way, in his view, Republicans have taken for granted the religious right.
“It can’t be growth just by age attrition,” he said. “The young people have to start connecting with the older people.”
A further challenge is expanding the movement’s support among women, who tend to express higher support for activist government than men do. The most promising avenue, Mr. Benton said, may be the antiwar stance that Mr. Paul has articulated.
Balancing pragmatism and principle could prove tricky for Rand Paul, who Mr. Boaz said “sees himself as a potential presidential nominee.”
Senator Paul has shown a greater commitment than his father to operating within Republican Party institutions. The foremost recent example: in June, he gave Mr. Romney the endorsement that his father would not. He is scheduled to address the convention on Monday.
“There were a lot of people who were upset” at the endorsement, said Ms. Ryan, the Maine delegate. “Rand’s going to have a lot of work ahead of him to secure his base if he wants to be the next liberty candidate.”



A version of this article appeared in print on August 26, 2012, on page A13 of the New York edition with the headline: Libertarian Legion Stands Ready to Accept Torch From Paul.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/us...pagewanted=all

RNC reports that the convention is postponed until Tuesday due to Hurricane Isaac (*Delegates still need to report on Monday!*)

Submitted by Tebowtime95 on Sat, 08/25/2012 - 18:55

UPDATE:
****** If you are a delegate, MAKE SURE YOU STILL REPORT IN ON MONDAY! The RNC is trying to trick the Paul delegates by telling them that Monday is entirely cancelled, but THAT IS NOT THE CASE! ******

see also: Reince Priebus' memo

Republican National Convention President and CEO Bill Harris made the following statement: “Our chief priority is the safety of the residents of Florida, of those visiting the Convention, and all those in Gulf Coast states who may be impacted by Tropical Storm Isaac. We have been working closely with the campaign, the party, and state and local officials for months to ensure a successful, enjoyable convention. Federal, state and local officials assure us that they are prepared to respond, if needed, and the scheduling changes we are announcing today will help ensure the continued safety of all participants – our foremost concern. We are also committed to keeping the delegates and guests of the convention well informed about the situation, and we will continue providing updates in the hours and days ahead.”

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus made the following statement: “Due to the severe weather reports for the Tampa Bay area, the Republican National Convention will convene on Monday August 27th and immediately recess until Tuesday afternoon, August 28th. After consulting with Governor Scott, NOAA and local emergency management officials, we are optimistic that we will begin an exciting, robust convention that will nominate the Romney-Ryan ticket.

Source: http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/08/republi...

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ya gotta be there... as much as the LEADERS of the RNC / GOP crack heads lie ... you have no choice

Just More of Slim Shady Mitten's bag of dirty tricks that only a used car saleman smoking a cheap cigar would do

Show Up Monday Delegates

The Most Important Post Regarding the RNC: Calling All Delegates! Texas Needs Your Help!

Submitted by RobHino on Sat, 08/25/2012 - 21:06
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This was written by my friend in Tampa. I just arrived a few hours ago, and this is the main issue we must unite to defeat! Please study this and share it all over the web. Call any delegates that you know, friend or foe. This isn't about Ron Paul. Will you help?!

From my friend Jeremy, one of the head grassroots organizers for Texas. Please trust me and him on this. We've been contacted by several establishment types who are absolutely against this power grab, and they want to work together to defeat this on the floor in Tampa. Texas can't do it alone:

Manipulating concerns of many in the party mainstream over the success Ron Paul's supporters had becoming delegates this cycle, the DC insiders led by the Romney campaign are staging a complete takeover of the national Republican Party from the conservative wing and ensuring they will never lose power again.

Romney campaign attorneys and other operatives ran a large set of changes through the convention rules committee yesterday, the vast majority of which were not discussed prior in the RNC Standing Rules committee. Two changes stand out far beyond the rest and MUST be defeated on the floor of the convention if we do not want to see the grassroots shut out of the party for decades to come.

First, the committee voted to allow the RNC to make rule changes between conventions, with little to no checks or balances. The original threshold proposed was 2/3 of the entire RNC. Melinda Fredericks of Texas got this changed to 3/4, but as Morton Blackwell of Virginia noted, in his many years on the RNC he has never seen a situation where the chairman did not get what he wanted on a vote, regardless of threshold.

This article discusses that change, and is accurate to what I observed in the committee meeting:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-executes-republic...

Second, the committee voted to dramatically restrict who can be elected a delegate to the national convention. ALL STATES now are required to pledge ALL delegates, and all national delegates must be approved by the candidate they are pledged to. As originally proposed the candidate had to pre-approve people before they could run, but this was changed to instead give candidates veto power over elections. Attempts to carve out exceptions for caucus states that have party rule requiring they not pledge some delegates failed.

I'm pleased to say our representatives on the committee opposed this one as strongly as anyone did, with Butch Davis saying that stopping it was "a hill to die on". David Barton ran for the Platform Committee so that he could make sure the Romney campaign would not successfully gut the platform--that kind of speech or position will never be tolerated in the future if this stands.

Morton Blackwell and others are leading efforts to defeat this via minority reports on the floor. We NEED to make sure either those pass or the entire report is voted down so we stay with the 2008 rules. PLEASE help us inform the delegates and put pressure where needed to stop this. This is not a "Ron Paul vs mainstream GOP" thing, this is a complete party takeover by the DC insiders we may not be able to reverse if it succeeds.

The last form of the adopted language I have available is below--we don't have access to the official report yet but unless I missed something this is it.

New rule inserted as number 12:

"The Republican National Committee may, by three fourths (3/4) vote of its entire membership, amend Rules 1-11 and 13-24. Any such amendment shall be considered by the Republican National Committee only if it was passed by by a majority vote of the Standing Committee on Rules after having been submitted in writing at least ten (10) days in advance of its consideration by the Republican National Committee and shall take effect thirty (30) days after adoption. No such amendment shall be adopted after September 30, 2014."

New rule inserted as number 15(a):

15(a)(1) Any statewide presidential preference vote that permits a choice among candidates for the Republican nomination for president of the United States in a primary, caucus, or state convention must be used to allocate and bind the state's delegation to the National Convention in either a proportional or winner-take-all manner, except for delegates and alternate delegates who appear on a ballot in a statewide election and are elected directly by primary voters.

15(a)(2) For any manner of binding or allocating delegates permitted by these Rules, no delegate or alternate who is bound or allocated to a particular presidential candidate may be certified under Rule 19 if the presidential candidate to whom the delegate or alternate delegate is bound or allocated has, in consultation with the State Party, disavowed the delegate or alternate delegate.

15(e)(3) The Republican National Committee may grant a waiver to a state Republican Party from the provisions of 15(a) and (b) where compliance is impossible, and the Republican National Committee determines that granting such a waiver is in the best interests of the Republican Party.

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