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    Illegal's

    Too bad the National Guard wasn't there to gather up all the trash and export the illegals back to their respective country's.

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    Re: riots & the media

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    The media is instructed to play down these events - Americans still say "who would do the farm work". I live in a major city, we don't have farms here yet we have 150,000 jobs taken by illegals -every illegal woman has 3 & 4 kids on welfare with no man paying support as he lives with them or around the corner. They are renting properties and put 25 more people than the legal limit allows, turning apartments into brothels, selling drugs, selling food out of shopping carts - it is disgusting - laws do not pertain to them. This is truly a takeover of our country - to turn it into the cesspools they have made in their own countries.

    I am trying to find a news clip or in print that obama came out at the march a few weeks ago and told the crowds (that were holding hateful sign towards europeans that set up the rules to make this the great country it is), "I will push amnesty thru for you" Anybody have a link to that report?

    Not sure if this is it but here is a link to what I found so far

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    Obama to Push Immigration Reform Bill
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    President reportedly plans to address the thorny issue of immigration reform this year, including searching for a way for illegal immigrants to become legal, a senior administration official says.

    President Obama is gearing up for yet another legislative battle, this time over the contentious issue of immigration, according to a New York Times report that says one of the goals will be to a create a path for illegal immigrants to become legal.

    The push for immigration reform would echo one of Obama's campaign pledges, though its success is uncertain in a tough economic climate
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    Administration officials told the Times that Obama plans to speak publicly about the issue in May and will press lawmakers from both parties to begin discussing legislation by the fall.

    But the White House downplayed the report, with a spokesman telling FOX News the president consistently said the debate over immigration reform would start this year. The spokesman said nobody is claiming the problem will be fixed this year.

    The spokesman pointed out a lengthy response Obama gave at a town hall meeting in California in March, when Obama called for strengthening the border and creating a pathway to citizenship for some illegal immigrants. He did not give a timeframe, however, for when this debate would occur.

    "This is not going to be a free ride. It's not going to be some instant amnesty," Obama said at the time. "What's going to happen is you are going to pay a significant fine. You are going to learn English
    . You are going to go to the back of the line so that you don't get ahead of somebody who was in Mexico City applying legally. But after you've done these things, over a certain period of time you can earn your citizenship."

    Several Senate Democratic aides insisted that getting any immigration bill through Congress this year would be almost impossible -- but a senior spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told FOX News Reid wants a bill on the Senate floor in September.

    Democrats are in a difficult position, however. Hispanic-Americans were key to numerous Democratic victories in the last two congressional elections, as well as Obama's presidential campaign. Also, Reid, up for re-election in 2010, is from a state with a prominent Latino population, many in the massive service industry based in Las Vegas.

    But the labor movement, a major backer of Democrats, is not at all in favor of comprehensive immigration reform, particularly in tough economic times.

    Another complicating factor is that the lead immigration reform negotiator Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass, has been slowed by his battle with brain cancer. One Democratic source said it is possible Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., will become the next point man, as he took over the reins of Kennedy's immigration subcommittee of the Judiciary Committee.

    "We must solve the immigration issue and we can, even in these difficult economic times. I believe there is a real chance of passing comprehensive reform this year, and the Senate panel on immigration will begin a series of meetings and hearings later this month with an eye towards meeting that goal," Schumer said in a statement.

    Schumer plans to meet with Hispanic groups when Congress returns from recess the week of April 20.

    The goal of the immigration program will be "policy reform that controls immigration and makes it an orderly system," Cecilia Munoz, director of the White House's intergovernmental affairs, told the Times. "He intends to start the debate this year."

    However, the new push for immigration reform would come in the wake of the failure two years ago of the Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act. That bill received criticism from both sides of the immigration debate, despite being portrayed as a compromise between legalization of illegal immigrants and increased border enforcement.

    During Obama's campaign, he pledged to "bring people out of the shadows" through a system that would allow the 12 million undocumented immigrants to pay a fine, learn English and go to the back of the line in the citizenship process.

    "Opponents, mainly Republicans, say they will seek to mobilize popular outrage against any effort to legalize unauthorized immigrant workers while so many Americans are out of jobs," the Times said.

    Read the full report at the New York Times

    FOX News' Mike Emanuel and Trish Turner contributed to this report.



    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04 ... on-reform/

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    How is this not terrorism?

    And treated as such?

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    Mexican Riot

    All the more reason to get the ILLEGALS out of America!

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    Finally-an All-or-Nothing Fight Has Begun

    Things must always get worse before they can get better--brave ALIPAC stands nearly alone as the advocate of the American people against our greatest menace. The illegal alien situation brought about by Teddy Kennedy over 30 years ago has broken America's economy & has made us totally unsafe from ALL of our enemies, WORLDWIDE. This has always been the intent of international communism. The communist organizations behind this very serious riot have been taken competely by surprise--they thought that with a Marxist-Leninist in the White House it would be an easy ride to victory. However, the survival instinct is alive & well in the majority of Americans, especially those of us who live in areas inundated with this by & large unwelcome presence that has no respect or love for America & what America stands for--they are here merely to take advantage of our system in every way, many on a personal level, & way too many on a nefarious political level. God willing there will be no bloodshed, but if there is, it will NOT be caused by loyal Americans, but rather by this modern day invasion of the Huns. The real culprit has been the federal govt. for allowing this to continue, & the Democrat & Republican Parties: The Dems for their misguided liberalism/socialism & desire to stay in power in the most devious ways, and the Republicans for their cowardice & betrayal of their party's & this very American Republic's principles. God help us & save us--may the rotten US press be revealed to ALL for the running dog of socialism that it is.

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    Re: riots & the media

    Quote Originally Posted by kathyet
    Quote Originally Posted by artist9
    During Obama's campaign, he pledged to "bring people out of the shadows" through a system that would allow the 12 million undocumented immigrants to pay a fine, learn English and go to the back of the line in the citizenship process.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04 ... on-reform/

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    First of all, it always kills me when they talk about "bringing the illegals out of the shadows". How many of them are actually in the shadows? I'd say they're a lot more in our faces than in the shadows. And as for the part about "paying a fine, learning English, and going to the back of the line", this is so much nonsense! How many illegals would actually volunteer to "come out of the shadows" and pay a fine rather than continue to live here without anyone hassling them? And why would they want to learn English if they haven't learned it by now? And lastly, where exactly do these people think the back of the line is? It seems to me it's somewhere south of border, where they came from. Where else could the "back of the line" be?
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    Re: Bullsh****

    Since when do their "rights" overcome ours?

    Wait you didn't know that!! We have been sitting on our butts and letting this PC culture wipe away our rights for the last 20 years. Now our rights don't matter as much bc we don't get offended as easy, and we would rather work hard and try to succeed on our own merit; rather than have the government help us out and/or have other people do the work for us. They can just sit around and bitch loud enough and some politician will figure they can get easy votes out of it by pretending to actually care about the issue. They know we won't (or at least wouldn't in the past) stand up and complain ourselves or show our discontent.
    Or on the other "bad" hand, there are so many people that have "White Guilt" and feel they owe it to these people to do whatever they can to wipe away the "shame" they have from this countries past (I don't have any mind you). That they would rather hurt their own childrens' future, than appear selfish or insensitive. The fools don't even know they are condemning their own descendants to a poorer and less opportunistic future.

    Finally we are starting to stand up for our rights as "American Citizens" whether that be White/Black/Asian/ or etcc.....hopefully we won't let the "Tea Party" movement be hijacked by Republican leaders who mistakenly think that because it is not a liberal org. that it means it is supporting them, when in reality we are condemning and rejecting both parties who have watched us get in this mess.

    SARAH PALIN, McCain, etc.... Stay AWAY!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: riots & the media

    Quote Originally Posted by LAPhil
    Quote Originally Posted by kathyet
    Quote Originally Posted by artist9
    During Obama's campaign, he pledged to "bring people out of the shadows" through a system that would allow the 12 million undocumented immigrants to pay a fine, learn English and go to the back of the line in the citizenship process.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04 ... on-reform/

    Kathyet
    First of all, it always kills me when they talk about "bringing the illegals out of the shadows". How many of them are actually in the shadows? I'd say they're a lot more in our faces than in the shadows. And as for the part about "paying a fine, learning English, and going to the back of the line", this is so much nonsense! How many illegals would actually volunteer to "come out of the shadows" and pay a fine rather than continue to live here without anyone hassling them? And why would they want to learn English if they haven't learned it by now? And lastly, where exactly do these people think the back of the line is? It seems to me it's somewhere south of border, where they came from. Where else could the "back of the line" be?
    There are alot who live in the shadows. Many learn English and have permenent jobs. Others learn some English and work in jobs within their own ethnic community. It is hard to tell that they are illegal. You never see them protesting for amnesty or hanging around looking for day laborer jobs at the Home Depot. I know in South Florida we have alot of illegasl from eastern Europe as well as Isreali's.
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    Re: riots & the media

    Quote Originally Posted by swatchick
    Quote Originally Posted by LAPhil
    Quote Originally Posted by kathyet
    Quote Originally Posted by artist9
    During Obama's campaign, he pledged to "bring people out of the shadows" through a system that would allow the 12 million undocumented immigrants to pay a fine, learn English and go to the back of the line in the citizenship process.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04 ... on-reform/

    Kathyet
    First of all, it always kills me when they talk about "bringing the illegals out of the shadows". How many of them are actually in the shadows? I'd say they're a lot more in our faces than in the shadows. And as for the part about "paying a fine, learning English, and going to the back of the line", this is so much nonsense! How many illegals would actually volunteer to "come out of the shadows" and pay a fine rather than continue to live here without anyone hassling them? And why would they want to learn English if they haven't learned it by now? And lastly, where exactly do these people think the back of the line is? It seems to me it's somewhere south of border, where they came from. Where else could the "back of the line" be?
    There are alot who live in the shadows. Many learn English and have permenent jobs. Others learn some English and work in jobs within their own ethnic community. It is hard to tell that they are illegal. You never see them protesting for amnesty or hanging around looking for day laborer jobs at the Home Depot. I know in South Florida we have alot of illegasl from eastern Europe as well as Isreali's.
    I guess that's the difference between Florida and California.
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    First of all, it always kills me when they talk about "bringing the illegals out of the shadows". How many of them are actually in the shadows? I'd say they're a lot more in our faces than in the shadows. And as for the part about "paying a fine, learning English, and going to the back of the line", this is so much nonsense! How many illegals would actually volunteer to "come out of the shadows" and pay a fine rather than continue to live here without anyone hassling them? And why would they want to learn English if they haven't learned it by now? And lastly, where exactly do these people think the back of the line is? It seems to me it's somewhere south of border, where they came from. Where else could the "back of the line" be?
    That's our administrations policy and has been for more than 25 years...I remember a family member telling us back-east when he came back from Phoenix that it is being over run with illegals that was back in the late 70's...Our government has not enforced our laws at all. Oh, sure they talk about it, A LOT, but that is about it. Can you name any one of them who has enforced OUR laws????? Sheriff Joe recently but who else????? What other State... So now the "chickens are coming home to roost" Remember that expression MRO... Well as REV Wright says hopefully this will all come home to roost at your door step....

    These policy's have now left us with these illiterate, greedy people thinking it is their right of passage to come here illegally in the dead of night. Bad enough that ,but instead of being quiet and assimilating into our society, they instead March and fly their flag so proudly, the flag I might add, they ran from, and demand all services we offer for free. Our elected officials don't even try and stop it...officials we elected...this makes me sick...

    Now by doing this these illegals are slapping all honest immigrants who come here through legal channels in the face. And in essence telling all cultures coming here the right way are stupid for doing that . All the while sucking up what is good from this country....they are criminals...actually to me they are worse than that. Bottom Fish comes to mind...

    None of them will come out of the shadows and pay a fine. MrO loves to say that, must make him feel tough...he and the rest of the open border crowd all lie and are working against our Country and it's principles........Oh sure when the economy was fine they got away with the lie what is their excuse now....These people don't even pay taxes. I have to laugh,Mr O wants to fine them, and he thinks we will all fall for this......he and his open border crowd are definitely a piece of work...

    Any one who thinks that these people will pay, is either gullible or dumb, or both. These illegals don't have the money, they gave it to the "coyotes" sneaking over here illegally to begin with....but wait.... didn't they come here for a better life because they had no job or money!!!!!!


    On a side note:

    We Need To Wake Up America....and when it comes to the election coming up for 2012 this fall KICKTHEMALLOUT!!!!!!

    and watch the voting places no one should vote in this Country if they are not a US Citizen and if they don't show proper ID. This is how they think they will win and why they want amnesty....the majority of these people in power are working against the American people and this Country. Voter fraud is nothing to them...

    AND WE NEED TO FLY OUR FLAG PROUDLY AND UPSIDE..TILL WE GET OUR COUNTRY BACK...



    Kathyet

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