Thread: Action Alert: Support HR220 Common Sense ID THEFT & REAL

JP wrote:

Have to thank NC for finally joining in the list of states to oppose Real ID.

Please provide a link to information from our North Carolina Legislators that says they're opposing Real ID. I have seen nothing so far to indicate what you're saying is true. Is this something that just came about in the last week? Unless something has changed in the last week, NC is still online to start issuing driver's licenses that satsify the REAL ID requirements on July 1, 2008. In other words, NC will be issuing secure driver's licenses (REAL ID) in 2 months and twelve days. Do you actually have something that disputes what I'm saying? If so, please provide it. If not, please quit throwing out false and misleading information.

It's way past time that our country was singing off the same sheet of music on the driver's license issue. IMO, a national minimum standard for the issuance of driver's licenses is needed and necessary.

The group North Carolinians Against Real ID do not represent all the people of North Carolina, and they certainly don't speak for our elected representatives in the North Carolina General Assembly! North Carolinians Against Real ID is nothing more than another special interest group protesting something they disagree with.

MW, you dont read much do you? Oh well. Dont worry about it.

About North Carolinians Against Real ID

North Carolinians Against Real ID is a grassroots effort by We the People of North Carolina to stop the Real ID. We are comprised from all walks of life. Many members are proud U.S. Veterans. Others are grandparents, mothers, fathers, members of the clergy, business owners and so on.

Our Plan is a simple one. We will contact and educate every one of our Legislators until they understand the costs and privacy concerns when it comes to the Real ID. Furthermore, once we have educated them, we want legislation passed to stop all compliance of the Real ID Act and any databases that include biometric and other personal data required by the Real ID Act to be removed.

We want a secure driver's license, but creating a national id card is not the answer. Many states were already in the process of securing their drivers licenses before the Real ID was voted into law as part of a massive military spending bill.

http://www.ncard.info/about/index.shtml

Hmm, looks like the Special interest is in Freedom and Privacy. Shame on them.

NC will be issuing secure driver's licenses

"Secure"

Originally Posted by apropos

NC will be issuing secure driver's licenses

"Secure"

Exactly.

By the way, Great Avatar.

RealID is not necessary...just enforce the laws on the books.

We have passport requirements for foreigners, and visas as well. They don't have 'em or are expired? Deport 'em as any sane country would do.

Control the border...ID theft will drop like a penny in an empty oil barrel.

No need for another new set of laws...that do nothing but create a new whole new private and bureacratic industry justifying jobs for 10s of thousands of paper-pushers nation wide.

Just enforce existing law.

Notice that when filling out form establishing elgilibity for employment the types are numerous:

State Issued ID
State Issued Driver's License
Military ID
Applicable Visa Based ID
SSI Card
...and more...

Lots of sources to use for cross checking...

Again, RealID is not necessary...and personally is an insult to us Americans and the Constitution.

Force the aliens, guests, and visa holders to prove who they are - NOT US!

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Originally Posted by mrrabbit

RealID is not necessary...just enforce the laws on the books.

We have passport requirements for foreigners, and visas as well. They don't have 'em or are expired? Deport 'em as any sane country would do.

Control the border...ID theft will drop like a penny in an empty oil barrel.

No need for another new set of laws...that do nothing but create a new whole new private and bureacratic industry justifying jobs for 10s of thousands of paper-pushers nation wide.

Just enforce existing law.

Notice that when filling out form establishing elgilibity for employment the types are numerous:

State Issued ID
State Issued Driver's License
Military ID
Applicable Visa Based ID
SSI Card
...and more...

Lots of sources to use for cross checking...

Again, RealID is not necessary...and personally is an insult to us Americans and the Constitution.

Force the aliens, guests, and visa holders to prove who they are - NOT US!

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Well said mrrabbit. We don't need more laws, we just need them to enforce the ones we have now. They already have enough information. Let the SS Administration share the no match letters with ICE when they are not resolved. I bet a whole lot of illegals and employers would learn very quickly that they cannot get away with scamming the American people.

Originally Posted by koobster

check out

www.lifelock.com

They keep you informed, they will send you a copy of your credit record.

You might be interested in this about Lifelock

ID-protection ads come back to bite pitchman:

Todd Davis has dared criminals for two years to try stealing his identity: Ads for his fraud-prevention company, LifeLock, even offer his Social Security number next to his smiling mug.

Now, Lifelock customers in Maryland, New Jersey and West Virginia are suing Davis, claiming his service didn't work as promised and he knew it wouldn't, because the service had failed even him

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080522/ap_ ... fraud_flap

All systems can be compromised and abused, unfortunately. There is too much money to be made for people by going after our personal data. More unfortunate is that our government is helping these thieves with the idea/design of the REAL ID.

Originally Posted by apropos

Originally Posted by koobster

check out

www.lifelock.com

They keep you informed, they will send you a copy of your credit record.

You might be interested in this about Lifelock

ID-protection ads come back to bite pitchman:

Todd Davis has dared criminals for two years to try stealing his identity: Ads for his fraud-prevention company, LifeLock, even offer his Social Security number next to his smiling mug.

Now, Lifelock customers in Maryland, New Jersey and West Virginia are suing Davis, claiming his service didn't work as promised and he knew it wouldn't, because the service had failed even him

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080522/ap_ ... fraud_flap

All systems can be compromised and abused, unfortunately. There is too much money to be made for people by going after our personal data. More unfortunate is that our government is helping these thieves with the idea/design of the REAL ID.

Thanks for sharing. I knew that guy was an idiot for putting his SS# online.

You are correct there is no such thing as a secure database.


The Real ID is going to very very lucrative for companies Like Vasage and others, I guess that would explain why they were pushing for it. Our information will be exploited and the illegals will have access to even more identities to steal.

Be sure to remain steadfast on this issue.

Getting lots of positive feedback on the efforts. KEEP AT IT!