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    Quote Originally Posted by returning_resident
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    Hillary, speaks with forked tongue. She cares only about her political career. Can you not see through her ?
    I don't care, she will be better for the environment than any other politician. Yes, nader will be better, but he won't be elected. And name me ONE politician that doens't care about his political career ?
    I am really surprised that you dont consider illegal immigration to have a huge effect on the environment. Take a look at these 3rd world countries, expecially Mexico. Take a look how they live here. They trash up the land, live in overcrowded trailor parks, tents, shacks, whatever; pee in the very same water they drink and bathe in, and then irrigate their crops with whats left over.
    Think about the population. Its overcrowded here as it is, not to mention the amount of babies being plopped down by illegals every minute. Think about all the gas guzzeling heaps they bring with them, which probably would never pass a air quality test.
    Everytime I look at Hillary, I dont see her as 'holding her head high' during all her husband's scandals, but I see a sleaze who apparantly didnt give a rat's behind how it affected the American people. She is just as guilty as he was to disgrace the White House.
    Certainly, you can choose someone better than her, cant you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelmahopkins
    Returning T--------

    clinton also is responsible for welfare reform which was a direct attack on poor, single mothers - mostly white in the us.
    he promoted Nafta I believe-
    of course he was better then Bush - it's hard not to be -

    Hilary is an attorney- she is a member of the affluent, upper classes - she is not a woman of the people- We can't count on her for anything.
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    As has been true in previous Congresses, the Members of the 109th Congress are well educated. At least 398 Members of the House and 97 Senators hold bachelor’s degrees; 120 Members of the House and 20 Senators have master’s degrees; 171 Members of the House and 57 Senators hold law degrees; 20 Members of the House have doctoral degrees; and 13 Members of the House and four Senators hold medical degrees.8 In addition, there are three graduates of the U.S. Military Academy, two in the House and one in the Senate; one Senator is a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy; one Representative (a woman) is a graduate of the U.S. Air Force Academy; five Representatives and three Senators were Rhodes Scholars; one Representative was a Fulbright Scholar, and one was a Marshall Scholar.

    8 Nine Representatives, two Senators, and one Delegate have an M.D. degree; three Representatives have a D.D.S. (doctor of dental surgery) degree; two Senators have a D.V.M. (doctor of veterinary medicine) degree; and one Representative has an O.D. (doctor of optometry) degree.

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    And, WHERE did the Columbine guns come from?? The parents' house, of course. Why were they not LOCKED and in a SAFE PLACE?
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    I give up. But I do have some swamp property for sale.
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    I am really surprised that you dont consider illegal immigration to have a huge effect on the environment. Take a look at these 3rd world countries, expecially Mexico. Take a look how they live here. They trash up the land, live in overcrowded trailor parks, tents, shacks, whatever; pee in the very same water they drink and bathe in, and then irrigate their crops with whats left over.
    I agree with you 100% that Mexicans make a lot of trash, but that's just on a minor scale. It's is generally known that we as Americans pollute the air the most. Our industry pollutes the most, why do you think we didn't sign the Kyoto Treaty ? Why do you think Green peace criticizes us the most ?

    Everytime I look at Hillary, I dont see her as 'holding her head high' during all her husband's scandals, but I see a sleaze who apparantly didnt give a rat's behind how it affected the American people. She is just as guilty as he was to disgrace the White House.
    Certainly, you can choose someone better than her, cant you?
    what scandals ?? The Lewinsky affair ? Come on, most Americans said that it's the president's business, but some Republicans wanted to impeach him ?? Well, I don't care if clinton slept with other women as long as he governs the country well, that's was his job, and he did well.

    Ken Starr word man were talking absurd
    Spending forty million dollars just to give a man the bird


    That's what it was, just to give the man ( Clinton ) a bird.
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    What Clinton disgrace ?

    Economy : went fine
    Debt : not so high as it's know
    Crime : was lower.
    Illegal immigration : Was lower and he was not advocating a huge amnesty like Bush is doing.
    international : He was loved by almost all countries, at least our allies.

    Can I find a better president than another Clinton ( Hillary ).
    No, I can't, can you ?
    Maybe you'll say Tancredo, but he won't win the GOP nomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsie
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    And, WHERE did the Columbine guns come from?? The parents' house, of course. Why were they not LOCKED and in a SAFE PLACE?
    Well, if the Columbine killers would have been 18, they could have bought those guns in a store and commit the exact crime. My point is, that bad people also get guns, otherwise we wouldn't have so many armed gangs, would we ? why do you tihnk that people in europe feel safer in europe than Americans in the US ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by returning_resident
    I am really surprised that you dont consider illegal immigration to have a huge effect on the environment. Take a look at these 3rd world countries, expecially Mexico. Take a look how they live here. They trash up the land, live in overcrowded trailor parks, tents, shacks, whatever; pee in the very same water they drink and bathe in, and then irrigate their crops with whats left over.
    I agree with you 100% that Mexicans make a lot of trash, but that's just on a minor scale. It's is generally known that we as Americans pollute the air the most. Our industry pollutes the most, why do you think we didn't sign the Kyoto Treaty ? Why do you think Green peace criticizes us the most ?

    [quote:2bmy4fw9]Everytime I look at Hillary, I dont see her as 'holding her head high' during all her husband's scandals, but I see a sleaze who apparantly didnt give a rat's behind how it affected the American people. She is just as guilty as he was to disgrace the White House.
    Certainly, you can choose someone better than her, cant you?
    what scandals ?? The Lewinsky affair ? Come on, most Americans said that it's the president's business, but some Republicans wanted to impeach him ?? Well, I don't care if clinton slept with other women as long as he governs the country well, that's was his job, and he did well.

    Ken Starr word man were talking absurd
    Spending forty million dollars just to give a man the bird


    That's what it was, just to give the man ( Clinton ) a bird.
    Song by rodney Crowell ( Fate's Right Hand )

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    What Clinton disgrace ?

    Economy : went fine
    Debt : not so high as it's know
    Crime : was lower.
    Illegal immigration : Was lower and he was not advocating a huge amnesty like Bush is doing.
    international : He was loved by almost all countries, at least our allies.

    Can I find a better president than another Clinton ( Hillary ).
    No, I can't, can you ?
    Maybe you'll say Tancredo, but he won't win the GOP nomination.[/quote:2bmy4fw9]

    Wow, we are MILES APART. But, we are both entitled to our own opinions. Of course, my opinion is better than yours.
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    Sorry, I'll have to side with returning_resident on this one
    what scandals ?? The Lewinsky affair ? Come on, most Americans said that it's the president's business, but some Republicans wanted to impeach him ?? Well, I don't care if clinton slept with other women as long as he governs the country well, that's was his job, and he did well.
    What Clinton did was totally out of disrespect for Hillary but, for the Republicans and Ken Star did was nothing more than a smear tactic to move democrats to vote otherwise in 2000. The fact that they wanted Clinton impeached for what took place is A BIG JOKE compared to what your precious Republican President Bush doing what he has done to this nation. The two issues don't even compare. Talk about a complete waste of time and energy!

    But, tell you what..I'll never vote Democrat again, unless they change their platform which consists of nothing more than pandering to minorities for their votes..them and their moral liberalism. Spineless. The Republicans aren't any better. There's plenty that they're guilty of..them and their fiscal conservatism..if it was up to some of them, we wouldn't even have trash pick-up.

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