Thread: New Traitor to the Cause. Roy Beck...!!

Originally Posted by usanevada

Originally Posted by AmericanMe

Why would Beck go the Democrats???? Everyone knows all the Democrats are pro-amnesty!!!!

Its the headline and the perception

Which headline would you prefere to see?

"NUMBERSUSA GIVES HUCKABEE EXCELLENT RATING ON ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS"


Or

"ALL DEMS REFUSE TO SIGN PLEDGE TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION"

"ALL DEMS REFUSE TO SIGN PLEDGE TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION" is a non-sequitor!!

And, BTW, Beck is NOT endorsing Huckabee! As some posters have suggested, he may be laying a bear trap for Huckabee so that his words can come back to bite him. Whatever the reason, we can be sure that Beck's motives are honorable.

We know he is not endorsing Huck, some of us read the statement page

But it doesn't matter what we think , we already know

But the perception to the American public of what they
saw on the news reports is way different than what we know or
think

You can say its not an endorsement but Joe 6 pack probably
thinks it is

Originally Posted by stoptheinvasionoforegon

Roy Beck is operating in the Real World. He made Numbersusa what it is.
He stopped Amnesty several times.
I am sorry but he is working with what is out there. he is trying to push the candidates to be aware of illegal aliens
. we have no chance in Hell of getting a president on our side because the public are largely idiots.
I think slamming him like this is really wrong.
Do you think he can find a King Arthur somewhere and then will everyone be happy.

This picking a President is a nasty business.
Trashing Roy Beck after all he has done is going to undermine our movement.

I agree. Beck has been a great help to the anti-ILLEGAL immigration movement. While I may not agree on Numbers USA evaluations of some of our presidential candidates I do value all his hard work and will continue to support Numbers USA.

Originally Posted by bigtex

Originally Posted by stoptheinvasionoforegon

Roy Beck is operating in the Real World. He made Numbersusa what it is.
He stopped Amnesty several times.
I am sorry but he is working with what is out there. he is trying to push the candidates to be aware of illegal aliens
. we have no chance in Hell of getting a president on our side because the public are largely idiots.
I think slamming him like this is really wrong.
Do you think he can find a King Arthur somewhere and then will everyone be happy.

This picking a President is a nasty business.
Trashing Roy Beck after all he has done is going to undermine our movement.

I agree. Beck has been a great help to the anti-ILLEGAL immigration movement. While I may not agree on Numbers USA evaluations of some of our presidential candidates I do value all his hard work and will continue to support Numbers USA.

Then I guess its ok to keep supporting Gilchrest?

Afterall , he has also done a lot of great work for our movement

Can we just excuse his behavior now also? (sarcasm)

Actually I do think Beck will correct this or explain it , I hope he does

usa nevada- neither Save our state nor Roy Beck has any explaining to do to You.
I heard Roy Beck speak in Portland in 2006. He is a very smart man who understands what we are up against.
He has termendous credibilty, unlike Certain Posters who Throw Mud.
tell you what- you start your own version of Numbersusa and then get back to us and see how you're doing in a year.
as far as asking the democrats first to sign the pledge.
Petty petty petty.

Originally Posted by stoptheinvasionoforegon

usa nevada- neither Save our state nor Roy Beck has any explaining to do to You.
I heard Roy Beck speak in Portland in 2006. He is a very smart man who understands what we are up against.
He has termendous credibilty, unlike Certain Posters who Throw Mud.
tell you what- you start your own version of Numbersusa and then get back to us and see how you're doing in a year.
as far as asking the democrats first to sign the pledge.
Petty petty petty.

Huge screaming headlines in a forum don't mean a whole lot

As far as Save our state, Well, yes they do owe everyone an explanation

And yes , Beck does owe all of us an explanation

Some of us that have contributed to many of these orgs in the past
are owed an explanation, especially when they do things that
APPEAR to not be in our best interests

Originally Posted by usanevada

Originally Posted by bigtex

Originally Posted by stoptheinvasionoforegon

Roy Beck is operating in the Real World. He made Numbersusa what it is.
He stopped Amnesty several times.
I am sorry but he is working with what is out there. he is trying to push the candidates to be aware of illegal aliens
. we have no chance in Hell of getting a president on our side because the public are largely idiots.
I think slamming him like this is really wrong.
Do you think he can find a King Arthur somewhere and then will everyone be happy.

This picking a President is a nasty business.
Trashing Roy Beck after all he has done is going to undermine our movement.

I agree. Beck has been a great help to the anti-ILLEGAL immigration movement. While I may not agree on Numbers USA evaluations of some of our presidential candidates I do value all his hard work and will continue to support Numbers USA.

Then I guess its ok to keep supporting Gilchrest?

Afterall , he has also done a lot of great work for our movement

Can we just excuse his behavior now also? (sarcasm)

Actually I do think Beck will correct this or explain it , I hope he does

There is nothing wrong with Roy Beck behavior. Sarcasm or not thats a nasty statement to an American Hero. You may disagree(I do to a point),but we are never 100% going to agree with each other. There is no knight in shining armor out there(Tancredo already withdrew) who is going to become president for the next 8 years.

We gotta keep taking 2 steps foward for each step back and quit fighting because someone isnt doing EVERYTHING the way we'd do it,if we were in charge.

One thing that most people that know me ,they know I call it as I see it and if we are going to ding on one we had better be fair and balanced

Gilcrest hurt us bad , we know have this jerk Huckabee as a legit presidential candidate when we all know he is an open borders clown

Now Beck , no matter what his hero status has been has done the same
thing , the knife in the back is still quivering

JMO , I for one think he did us a dis service

but thats just me , feel free to throw bricks , stones or whatever , I'll even
respect your position to disagree

Beck is no traitor to the cause. Misguided/mislead no traitor

usa nevada- you are always so quick to trash our side and I mean the enforcement movement in general that youoften seem ( to me)as though you are on the other side.
Beck stopped Amnesty. hehas NOT placed a knife in anyone's back.
I wonder if you would like to be held to the same impossible standards you hold everyone else to.????