Thread: OK, Call me cruel. I just couldn't help myself!!

Dannah1965 and concernedveteran, I am so glad I picked this last forum to visit before turning in for the night, You both made my day and gave me a big, big, laugh.It made me feel all warm and fuzzie and I think I will have no trouble sleeping tonight, thanks Guy's I really needed that laugh tonight! Dannah, you will find the more you confront things, the easier it gets to be, until finally you become a monster lol just teasing about the monster part.It makes you feel so good about yourself to stand up for your beliefs!

I was naive....then in March, was reading a Newsweek article and came across 'Social Security Totalization with Mexico'. Since I had never heard that term, I went to the Social Security web site, searched, read about it....became heartsick as I realized the ramifications....and since have become as active as I can. I am the sole caretaker of my beloved mother, who is very ill. I call, fax, email from a variety of sites, as well as my own. I hound the media. One local TV station, got mad at me, but does now use the term 'illegal' instead of undocumented or immigrant. For Miami, that's a big deal. When I was emailed that they ARE telling both sides of the story, I emailed back that if they were telling both sides of the story, that they would show a special investigation into effects of massive flow of illegals, crime stats, overuse of social services, school overcrowding, hospitals being overwhelmed (so that citizens and LEGAL immigrants can't get help in a timely fashion), MEChA, Aztlan, communist/socialist backing, etc. That just saying that there are those who don't want amnesty, isn't enough. Well, ok, I was mad! I apologize for the length of this post, but my email to the President of 3/27 will explain why. Oh, what I've learned since the below email!************************************************** *******
I'm so angry at all this sympathy for people who choose to disobey the
laws of our country and do so every single day they stay here (and at the
businesses who give our jobs away, cheaply) and at our gov't at all levels
allowing this INVASION to go on. Immigrants are those who go through the
system, fill out papers, get checked out, learn English and obey the law!

I am the victim of illegals...Cuban, Nicaraguan, Colombian, Peruvian, &
Mexican. These kids were in an international gang that robbed me off and
on for 1 1/2 years (when I was at work at night as an ER RN, helping
people!), before they threatened my life (spray-painted "We're going to
kill you, you f...... Anglo bitch", all over my walls), broke in while I
was there with a gun, then when I left for my safety, burned my house
down, putting me into $25,000 in debt. Yes, the police gang unit was
trying, but the professionalism of the gang, as well as the physical
layout of the neighborhood, always gave the gang members time to escape.
They only got the gang member, who removed his glove, while he sprayed the
accelerant all over my furniture and my thousands of books. His
thumbprint was left on the accelerant can.

So guess what, I have absolutely no sympathy for illegals. My people were
Lithuanian, and were executed by the Russians, when they invaded. My
great-grandfather had a 'bad' feeling and took his family on a 'vacation'
to another country, 1 week before the invasion. Even though he claimed
political asylum, he was NOT allowed to come to the USA for 3 years, till
he was checked out totally. Then it was, you're here, learn our language,
obey our laws (no social help of any kind), and your future is up to you.
He shared a room with 17 men, all taking turns sleeping on the floor with
a blanket, saving every possible cent to bring over his wife and my
grandmother, who was a child. Took 5 years to accomplish this. They were
grateful! They learned English and obeyed the laws!!! What a concept!
And nobody put Lithuanian on voting ballots or gov't or business forms!

Kick all illegals out! Here in Miami, we have a situation with the 'Wet
Foot, Dry Foot' Act, part of the Cuban Adjustment Act, an insane situation
which encourages criminality. It encourages smuggling, so we have 3 sets
of criminals. The person who pays the smuggler; the smuggler and the
people who KNOW they're being smuggled. Then, when the Cuban steps on US
land, they get to stay! Absurd! The message this sends is you can do
what you want, whether it's legal or not. Any immigrant who breaks the
law should be kicked back to his country of origin, along with the entire
family, never to be allowed to return! This would make the entire family
make sure that everyone was behaving and would make new immigrants the
most law-abiding folk here. After all, we have enough home-grown
criminals, we don't need to import any. Also, I'm tired of my tax money
going to house jailed illegals!

Note: I am NOT opposed to people coming to our shores. I have 2 daughters
who speak 7 & 4 languages respectively. They only achieved this with my
encouragement, values and hard work to pay for the lessons. I believe that
the strength of our country has come from brave people who came from all
over the world, who came here to be AMERICANS and learned a common
language to communicate. I just think the invasion has to stop. We are
at WAR...there are terrorists out there who want to destroy us, 9/11
proved this. Our borders need to be closed. Visitors, with appropriate
visas, need to be tracked and made to leave when the visa is up. Each
country should be given a limited # of visas. Oh, and I find it very
interesting that the terrorists spoke English, yet folk who say they love
this country and want our freedoms, REFUSE to learn English.

Another thing that needs to change...that just being born here conveys
citizenship. If a person is born to a non-citizen who is NOT a green card
holder... then the baby shouldn't be a citizen. In the ER, I took care
of a child of Brazilian parents, who proudly presented her with her
Medicaid card. Now these folk arrived in their big Mercedes, with 2
(men's and ladies) Presidential Rolexes and expensive jewelry, handmade
clothes and shoes and with even the child wearing more real jewelry
(diamonds) than I'll ever be able to afford. They explained that this is
the "greatest country". That it is well known in Brazil to come to Disney
World in Orlando, Fl. for the last month of pregnancy and to just stay
till the baby's born...then you have a US citizen and can get help. These
people are millionaires. OUTRAGEOUS! My tax money going to people like
this! My oldest daughter is disabled. She has a very rare disease which
doesn't have a federal code. It's progressive and the doctors who are the
federal gatekeepers acknowledge that she CANNOT work and needs SSDI. Yet,
she's been told to her face that she's" white, so she can work". I told
her to get a lawyer. Yet, she's been a taxpayer since she was a teenager,
and can't get help! I have a doctor friend who works as a gatekeeper.
This doc told me recently that the law is that a Hispanic who never learns
English and is depressed, and has never worked, gets SSDI.
ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

I'm so fed up because the 'last straw' happened to me, while Christmas
shopping. I went into a Cuban owned business. I knew it, didn't even
think about that. (2 of my very best friends are Cuban born, came here
legally as children.) The owner was by himself, and folded his arms, and
said, in Spanish, that he didn't speak English. I said, no problema, yo
habla pocito espanol. He literally stuck his nose in the air and said, in
Spanish, that he didn't like my Spanish. I guess he didn't know how much
Spanish I understand. At this point, a young man, early 30's, very well
dressed and with flawless English, came into the shop, and had heard the
exchange. He said (and this is the last straw) that "your kind doesn't
belong here, we're going to drive your kind out of So. Fl. This is Cuba."
I am not exaggerating, nor kidding. I was floored. Actually struck
speechless, which I thought was impossible. Such hatred. When I had gone
in to buy something! When I told my 2 Cuban (now proud American)
friends...they just looked sick. Of course, the news media would NEVER
check on this, because, oh my goodness, it might make the Cubans angry.
SO WHAT! IF this wasn't just an isolated jerk, if there is such a
movement, shouldn't it be exposed?

I've always had friends from around the world. My girls, with their
intelligence, extremely clear enunciation and good grammar, were always
asked, even in elementary school, to mentor new children so they could
learn usable English and assimilate easier. I always gave my permission,
and the children and parents were befriended and were welcome in my home.
My daughters say they were brought up in a "mini-United Nations." So, I
feel betrayed, by my own country, which I love so much. We've been law
abiding and good citizen types. Now I feel like we're being abused and
our futures thrown away. Our jobs are being out-sourced.
Manufacturing?...what's that? God help us if foreign sources get taken
over by unfriendlies, and decided to cut us off from, oh, say for example,
steel. No one can't say that takeovers won't happen. We helped Saddam
Hussein get into power, same with the Taliban...then Osama Bin Ladin
worked for us in Afghanistan....etc. These are just recent examples.

I don't like feeling like this. I have a grandchild. I
want him to grow up to a good future with a wide diversity of friends. We
ENJOYED learning about other countries from new friends, and not just from
Europe. We have friends from the mid-east, Asia, Africa, Central and
South America. Our friends are literally from around the world. Yet,
now, I find myself becoming more nationalistic. Enough. We cannot take
care of the world. We're being regarded as fools. I heard one recent
Cuban smuggelee (I don't consider them legal), who was working at my
hospital, say in Spanish, translated by one of my Cuban friends, that
"Americans work too hard, and that he'd go home (Cuba) except that
Americans are so easy to steal from, because we want to believe good about
everyone." My Cuban friends, have told me that they live in fear of the
phone ringing...that it's a distant relative from Cuba, who wants to be
sponsored. That most folk coming from Cuba, now, are criminals. That
they have had to be in Cuba to survive, but they continue that behavior
here. They have been raised as Communists, so believe that they should be
taken care of, and that every friend of theirs, who has taken in such a
family member, has either been robbed by them, or they have had to pay for
legal fees because the immigrant gets into trouble with the law. On the
island, the people are told about "La Ayudar". The Help. They are told
they can get anything they want by calling 911. I have personally seen
this in action, and told about it by new immigrants. I hung up the phone
after a discharged patient called 911 from the ER to get a "ride home".
She got very angry at me when I told her that 911 was for life-threatening
emergencies only. That in the USA, people are responsible for taking care
of themselves. She started shouting "La Ayudar, La Ayudar" at me. When I
enquired of her frustrated family member, I was told the above.

People are NOT entitled to come here, just because they want to. Period.

Also, I have not heard in our local media, anything about what happens to
our Social Security with amnesty nor with Totalization with Mexico. It's
taking our future away, for all of us who came here LEGALLY and were good
citizens.

President Fox of Mexico has invaded us. No bullets, just numbers. Many
illegals work under the radar, do NOT pay taxes and send $20 Billion
dollars to Mexico a year. This does NOT benefit us. Y'all aren't talking
about the social services that non-taxpayers use.

Whatever happened to "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what
you can do for your country"? Just stop giving our country away.

So: 1. NO ILLEGALS
2. NO AMNESTY
3. NO TOTALIZATION
4. NO TO PRESIDENT FOX'S INVASION
5. NO TO AUTOMATIC CITIZENSHIP IF NOT BORN TO LEGAL CITIZENS OR
GREEN CARD HOLDERS
6. CLOSE OUR BORDERS
7. NO TO GLOBALIZATION
8.. STOP GIVING OUR COUNTRY AWAY
9. LET'S TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN FOR A CHANGE!
10. ENGLISH AS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE

Wow curiouspat, I knew things were getting bad in certain areas, but I had no idea they were getting THAT bad. I am with you on that for sure!

It's time to act and get the word out to millions and millions of other folks out there who don't have internet access and don't even have the slightest clue to any of this. I encourage you to see my post here:

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-25697.html

Visit the site, download the tools I've produced so everyone can be informed and take action with the "Action Pak". Until we engage the mass majority of the American people over what is truly going on with this - an invasion - we won't really get anywhere and it will continue to get much worse.

We MUST fix this situation while we can do it through peaceful means. If we don't, well.. I'm sure you know what the final options are.

Thanks for alerting me and others to what you've experienced with this! It is a real eye-opener to hear what others are experiencing in the "seized locations"

Thanks, ConcernedVeteran,

(Please forgive me, I'm relatively new at computers, still learning, so I'm not sure how to use all this).

re my post. That it's time to take action, is why I chose the watch as an Avatar (whatever that is?!) Time's up. Time for naivety, inaction, unconcern, uninvolvement ....etc...is up.

Now, concerning action. Anyone who has been trying to ring the bell and awaken US citizens and LEGAL immigrants has to be tremendously frustrated! In Miami, we don't deal with the huge numbers that the border states do. I only 'woke up' to the situation mid-March. Reading some of the other posts shows this frustration. We all must be careful and understand that everyone has their own reality to deal with. I'm aggressive enough (ER RN, remember?) that IF I could, I WOULD go to rallies, Senator's offices (Martinez FL. ), etc. However, the reality that I deal with is that my mother's care is minute to minute. So, I'm doing everything I AM ABLE to. I'm making a real pest of myself to all the mainline media, national and local. I contact, in one form or another (calls, faxes, emails, letters) the President, Senators & Congressfolk, & local politicians (not just Florida's), and both sides of the Aisle, as most are guilty, I believe, of treason, my network of friends and family, various organizations...basically everyone who pops into my head daily. I'm sure that this is nothing next to what you experienced in this subject do...I'm learning by reading your experiences.

So for those of you, who are able to, and DO show up in person....remember that there are those of us out here who are on OUR side, want to be there, and that you carry our beloved USA Flag representing us! So carry yourselves with dignity and honor, and act better than those who are trying to destroy our country. I promise the media WILL highlight people who act badly, who are anti-illegals, while they won't give the whole truth of the invasion.

And yes, concernedveteran, I, too, am afraid there will be civil war. Since my extended contact with that gang, I am VERY aware that these criminals are serious.

WAS NAIVE!

A few years ago I was working with the American Red Cross and we had a shelter site set up because of flooding in Arizona. The first night we had over 600 shelter residents show up. Some came in who were living in the washes in the area. The next morning there was a green van parked about a quarter of a mile down the road which was visible from the shelter site. The second night our population of 600 depleted to 24. Why? The INS just parked their van, but did nothing.

That experience got me to thinking. I have an old van and I painted it green. No signage, just green. I drove to a nearby site where illegals would gather every morning. I parked my van down the road and watched them scatter. Everyday now I take my Monday drive to various pickup points and have my coffee. Everyday it's SCATTER DAY!

Excellent course of action! Not many will go out of their way like that, but it's a great idea.

Iiamstheone,

You should take a good video recorder with you. It would probably make a real popular clip on youtube.

Dannah1965

thank you for your post, I can't remember the last time I laughed so hard. I was thinking today I really needed to learn Spanish, that way I would know what they were saying



Iiamstheone

very creative!



curiouspat

when I got to your post it made me sick that you were a victim and actually had your life threatened -- apparently our President and our Congress don't care about the American people at all ...

it's sad to say, but I think California and Florida are lost causes. As a resident and citizen what do you think?

Hi Mamie,

Thank you for your concern. It's much appreciated.

re: lost cause....UNLESS the laws on the books are actually followed, and illegals are deported, no social svcs., no anchor babies, employers fined and jailed, and the police empowered ...the 4 legs of William's "Kirkorian Chair"...I have to agree with you. And I hate to say that. I'm 61, grew up in Miami and love what my city WAS.

Since you read my post, and my letter to the President, I'm sure you realize I'm not a racist. I just have good reason to fear illegals. Until the episode, pre-Christmas, being told this is Cuba and that 'my kind doesn't belong here and will be driven out", I had put the gang episode behind me. At least I thought I had. My dear Cuban friends had even said to me, that they didn't understand how I could even talk with them, much less take the loving, compassionate and skillful care I did of all patients, since the majority down here are Hispanic. (I received many complimentary letters from my patients, all races and ethenicities). I just told them that there are bad folk in every group. The lemonade I made of the gang violence, was that by moving in 'temporarily' with my elderly parents, I found out that they needed my help. And I have done so.
When I became of the size of the immigration problem in mid-March, I became soooo angry. I was shocked at how badly all the fear of the violence came back. After all... I was an ER Charge Nurse in Miami at night. I'm smart (even I was naive!), strong, don't panic, solve problems, etc. As a dear friend, who happens to be a cop said, "you can't outrun a bullet".

But I've digressed. We have a mix of Cubans, who are extraordinarily
politically powerful. It's called the 'Cuban Connection'. If a doctor, lawyer, businessman, etc., doesn't belong, he will NOT get the referrals members do. We have Columbians, Salvadorans, and Hondurans, many of whom were interviewed during the rallies, saying that although they are 'legal now, they were undocumented (their word) until amnesty was granted, and they feel that amnesty should be given again'. We also have Mexicans, but not in the same numbers. We have Haitians who are outraged that they do not get the same 'wet foot, dry foot' privilege that the Cubans get. And the Caribbean Blacks who consider all the American Blacks as whiners. The Hispanics, consider the Cubans trash. But, the illegal immigration situation is drawing them together, just because they're Hispanic. And then there are the whites. We're very outnumbered. Oh dear, the Chamber of Commerce isn't going to like this.

Then the politicians. I think we only have one mayor who although Hispanic, is probably NOT corrupt. The police do NOT check a person's status. The news media is pro-Cuban and goes with them on anything, anytime. Then our Gov. is Jeb Bush, who is married to a Mexican, and our Senators...Mel Martinez, the first Cuban Senator, and Bill Nelson. So need I say more? I bug them all the time!

The first Friday of rallys, I went grocery shopping, and of course, took my beloved mother, who is 87 and has Alzheimer's. I've shopped there since I was a child, know everyone, and I think I'm generally well liked (for a customer). I really am a very nice lady. They are very concerned about my mother, remember her when she was brilliant and as she also was very nice, are very kind to her. Oh yes, they're all Hispanic, which has never bothered me. Anyway, we were talking with the Deli Manager, who's Dad was in the hospital and found out that her mother had fallen and badly broken her arm. This was a very serious discussion. Suddenly, a new employee, young male ~22 yrs. old, interrupts and speaks loud Spanish to the Mgr. for minutes. Don't know why but Cubans decibel levels go way up, while talking with each other. This agitated my mother, who, in the past would have looked over her glasses (oh yes, we ALL know that 'Mother' look, don't we ) and said quietly, something like, 'we're talking, wait your turn' . With the Alzheimer's she just screamed "shut up". Now she startled everyone, but the deli folk know about the Alzheimer's, so it was ok. But the other customers! OMG. The looks we got were so hostile, that I became afraid for my 87 yr. old mother. I checked out and left the store without finishing my shopping. Remember, this was the same day of the Rallies. Even in the stores I go into all the time, and have a friendly, business relationship with owners, cashiers, etc....no one would meet my eyes that day. It was most uncomfortable! I actually found myself thinking that although I could fight , how could I protect my frail Mom? And why would my mind even have gone to 'fight'? I can talk, and had to talk, people down in the ER all the time! Of course, they were usually WILLING to be talked down.

What have we come to as a nation?

Sorry this got so long. Just trying to sort everything I'm learning out!!!
Thanks again for the concern, Mamie

I'm afraid that boy got off easy with your mother -- I can just imagine what mine would have done!! We had a problem with riots at school and had problems on the school bus. My mother went to the school with some other parents, it got "real" messy -- these other parents told my mother our house could be burned down, she told them that was fine, she had insurance and would build another one.

My mother got a visit at our house one Saturday from one of the grandmothers of some of the boys on the bus. My mother told her the things that were said to us by her little darling. My mother told the grandmother how to solve the problem -- she said my daddy wore it around his waist and if she needed help in learning how to use it, she would be more than glad to show her!! Guess that lady didn't want my mama teaching them manners and she NEVER came back to our house!