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    "The program, known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, provides a two-year window where an undocumented youth cannot be deported and is granted authorization to work. To qualify, youths must meet a list of requirements including having resided in the country since 2007, having arrived before turning 16 and having a record free of felony and significant misdemeanors."

    Nebraska is the ‘last state standing’ DACA Drivers Licenses

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    Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals - National Conference of State ...
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    Apr 25, 2018 - 9, 2018,
    a U.S. district judge ordered that DACA recipients be allowed to continue ... The judge stayed his decision for 90 days to give DHS the opportunity to better ... All states now issue driver's licenses to DACA recipients...
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    SUPREME COURT

    MARCH 19, 2018 / 6:49 AM / UPDATED 4 HOURS AGO

    U.S. Supreme Court rejects Arizona challenge to 'Dreamers' program

    Andrew Chung

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday required Arizona to continue to issue driver’s licenses to the so-called Dreamers immigrants and refused to hear the state’s challenge to an Obama-era program that protects hundreds of thousands of young adults brought into the country illegally as children.


    The case centered on the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program created in 2012 under Democratic former President Barack Obama that Republican President Donald Trump already has sought to rescind. Those who signed up for DACA are
    shielded from deportation and given work permits . . .


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    From another article:

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    Just being an illegal alien is more than enough for deportation and removal. I wish people could get this through their heads and act accordingly. They don't need to be gang members or have criminal pasts or even commit current crimes to be deported and removed. Get them all out of here. FAST!


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    It shouldn't matter whether he is or isn't a gang member for deportation. If he is a gang member, then that's two reasons to deport him, but the fact remains, ICE only needs one reason and that is illegal presence in the United States. There will be a lot of gang members who are citizens and can't be deported. We want to bust the MS-13 gang, so getting as many of those who can be deported out of the country is of course a top priority but most Americans want all illegal aliens removed from the country, whether they are gang members or not. My advice to ICE is not to lead the story with "gang member", which is yet another bar to be proved, that can sometimes be hard to prove, so why go there at the beginning of the story to the press?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    It shouldn't matter whether he is or isn't a gang member for deportation. If he is a gang member, then that's two reasons to deport him, but the fact remains, ICE only needs one reason and that is illegal presence in the United States. There will be a lot of gang members who are citizens and can't be deported. We want to bust the MS-13 gang, so getting as many of those who can be deported out of the country is of course a top priority but most Americans want all illegal aliens removed from the country, whether they are gang members or not. My advice to ICE is not to lead the story with "gang member", which is yet another bar to be proved, that can sometimes be hard to prove, so why go there at the beginning of the story to the press?
    You, I and everyone else on ALIPAC agrees that ALL illegals need to be deported ..... the sooner the better. However, as unfortunate as it is, having the necessary resources to accomplish that feat is another matter. As hard as this is for me to say, there has to be some focus. Furthermore, words are important in this war we're fighting. It's important that the general public think we're going after the worst of the bunch first. There's the murderers, rapist, kidnappers, smugglers, drug pushers, etc. that are here primarily to prey on folks and then there are those that are here to take American jobs and soak up free benefits. It's important that the right message get out and that is that our resources are being utilized to go after the worst first. That's not to say we ignore the rest, just saying we need our messaging to seem focused to grab more attention.

    Unfortunately, considering the fact that illegal immigration and border security seems to be such a contentious issue, we need to ensure we're sending out the right message. If the Trump administration can convince folks that it's going after those that want to kill them and their children in their beds at night, it will be easier to get the increased resources we need. However, sending the message that we're expending our limited resources on illegals just working to feed their family is not a message that will be well received by the masses.

    Increasing the resources we need is all about the messaging to the public. I think we're on the right track for now. Go after the very bad players first but do not ignore the other illegals that get caught up in the search. Convincing the country that our streets are full of cut-throat machete wielding murders, rapist and child molesters is a potent message. Right or wrong, that's how I see it.

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    It contradicts our opposition to DACA, most of whom are not gang members and do not have criminal convictions, yet we all want them deported.

    ICE can add the gang membership and other convictions and prior deportations, etc. where they exist to the story as news coverage grows on the arrest and deportation, I just wouldn't use it upfront in the lead to the story.

    Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    However, as unfortunate as it is, having the necessary resources to accomplish that feat is another matter.
    No, we have the resources. But politics gets in the way. When a cop stops a car for some violation, the officer SHOULD be required to check legality of the driver. If they are not legal, they must be taken into custody, not released. Pretty soon, they would run out of cars and would dare not drive. That would cripple them from getting to work or having illegal businesses. That would put a dent in the illegal's attraction to be here.

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    As hard as this is for me to say, there has to be some focus.
    No! If you stop picking and choosing, and take into custody, and deport, all illegal aliens we find, we will get rid of the gang members as well. But if you must prove they are a gang member or other criminal before you can deport them, you will never win!


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